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Or you can just be a 60 month vet, stay subscribed for the time required, or pre-order Going Rogue to get into that closed beta. Cuz, you know, the devs are always looking for a focused group of beta testers who will give them good feedback, and NOT wanting to allow A LOT of people into their closed beta testing because of noise, so this whole Through Thick and Thin thing will def.....wait....

Nevermind, you were saying?

Ah yes, the sad fact is that many people here will spout that 'it shouldn't matter if you've been subbed since day one and dumped lots of money on the game, they need TESTERS not vets who just wanna dick around!'

Then you look at their "Through Thick and Thin" program and basically second guess all that reasoning. With GR, you'll be paying, or have payed, to get into the closed beta in one way or THREE.

So tell me, are they truly looking for testers during GR? Really? It's pretty lols

Yes, I'm sure they're looking really hard for people who are good testers in GR. If this is true, then every 60 month vet, every person who stays subbed for the time required, and every person that pre-orders the expansion is a 'good tester'.

The dev's only want feedback on stuff that isn't really important. IE, does your game blow up when you pop a yellow? They're not looking for feedback on their main issue focus, like ED, like purple patch, like issue 13 pvp and so on. By the time any of these hip new features make it to CB, they're not going to change or remit them, so basically CB is pretty much just to bug hunt (LOL) and not really provide feedback on the issue focus, as they don't really give a ****, and aren't going to roll back any thing no matter how much they've ******* it up (or not).

You don't need to make it so every time you kill something you get a purple, that's not what people are asking so stop being duurrrrrr and read between the lines. Most people, the "casual" ones I'm willing to bet, are generally miffed because they never get to see them. Now, whether this is because they truly NEVAR see one, or it's because they sit in AE all the time, who can say. The problem I've always had, though slight, in games where theres a chance for something to happen - like loot drops - is statistically, though extremely unlikely, you could literally play this game every day through it's lifespan and never get a 'rare' (whatever game/rare applies you decide). Ever, that's how chance works. On the flipside, yes, you could literally get a purple every kill. The thing that got me was with the defense mechanic. You can boost your defense to levels where everything always gets a 5% hit rate on you, but eventually and inevitably, you will get hit due to their streak breaker system. I just flat out wonder why they even have a system, but really, why can't mmo's or even this game incorporate that into their loot system?

Point is, when you log on, you should accomplish something or work your way to something. The 'casual' kids who don't spend a lot of time feel like they're not really getting towards anything aside from day job badges. With my patented Purplebreaker (copyright me), everyone can work towards something no matter how much time they have to devote, instead of whining and ******** when they don't get what's "coming to them".

Answer to subject of "about using bosses and stuff":

I wouldn't your arc will probably get banned by some intern GM for being a farm

Online interactions are not rated by the ESRB, yo.

As in: The actual content of the game is rated T. Interactions with other players are not. This being an interaction with another player, it won't get CoH in trouble by the ESRB and making them upgrade it to M or AO.

Course, there's always the ToS then, just saying that the rating has nothing to do with this.

I then suppose that saying "We're totally killing this mission" or "Totally murdering these mobs" or "massacre" and so forth are also unacceptable to you. There is a 'bad words filter', which may or may not filter ****. If it does, then I suggest turning it on and moving on.

Yes. Use /ignore then. If you don't know what that does, it makes it so you can't read what the person you /ignored.

I don't know why people ask other people to "stfu, stop talking about that, plz don't say that" etc, when you damn well know that 90% they won't. I simply ignore, and move on.

I also don't know why people post stuff like this on here...seriously, if everyone on this post said "ya you need to lighten up" would you team with this guy the next day and be all jolly while he talked about the stuff he was? No, you wouldn't, so why ask this question and post it here?

A hit check, any hit check by you or an enemy generates fury. Defense does not matter.

Anyways, the -rech from Ice armor hurting fury so bad is stupid.

1. Give us the powersets, and let us make the choice then. You can purposefully gimp your AT anyways, whats the big deal?

2. /Dark has two mez toggles, how is having practically an entire mob not attacking you at all any worse than practically having the entire mob attacking you slower?

Good to know.

If Issue 13 PVP is any indicator: once these people have their mind set on a super cool feature, they don't go back despite any amount of dislike for it. Now before you nerds start tweeking out, obviously this feature is liked by many (unlike issue 13 pvp), just saying these guys are pretty set in their ways with features.

Sure they change up bugs, but other than that? Might as well be talking to a brick wall, or me. See: Purple Patch, ED, GDN, Issue 13 PVP, Aggro Cap, Target Cap, etc.

Anyways, glad you guys think this is an awesome idea, but if you think this is somehow going to solve the 'problem' that AE has been 'creating' lately, it won't. Hell, I don't really mind whether or not I'm doing AE or regular missions, but lately I've just become so damn lazy I'd just rather do AE stuff than run around a zone. Some toons now I don't even have to take a travel power! Tickets are also really sweet; it's nice being able to replace/add Enhancements as you need/get them by using tickets instead of destroying your bank roll trying to buy them, or hoping that you'll get the one you need off a enemy. I can effectively keep my slots from going broken from about twenty something to 50 without having to spend a dime. (I don't usually bother buying enhancements early on, since I'm ripping through those low levels so fast I end up breaking up my Enny's within one or two runs.)

Now, I know they wanted AE to be some sort of alternate route to maxing out your levels. I don't have hard facts, I can't data mine. The Devs can and I'm more than certain that more people are using AE as their main form of leveling than regular content. In fact, I'm damn sure.

I'm not if the devs really care if people are doing more AE than regular content, but if they wanted to balance the scales, kind of, they would need to make regular mission-ing a bit more attractive. So, whats the main reward advantage that regular mission-ing has over AE? Purples. AE is being used more because you 1. Level faster. 2. Get tickez. 3. Purples are hard to come by (for me at least, has to be some other people that don't seem to ever get them [pre-Ae, shut up]) and cost a **** ton. If they made Purples more accessible, then maybe people would be more willing to go out and do some regular mission stuff every once in a while.

Sure, the new option to set team size to 8 and solo farm is a good way to do that; that maximizes your chances of getting one. But your casual player isn't really up for that, they like to team.

How many of you are familiar with the Streakbreaker system tied into Defense? Bueller? Bueller? Basically, the more times you successfully dodge or avoid an attack, the greater chance the next attack will hit. Why not incorporate a Purplebreaker (Copyright me) system? Basically, the longer you go without getting a purple drop, the better your chances of getting one.

Reading comprehension is important starting now.

Obviously, this could be abused if done incorrectly. You couldn't base it off of 'real time' as players would just park their 50's for the correct amount of time to maximize their chances; we'd want this to be more active, not like day jobs. I'm not sure if this would be 'feasible', but since the devs datamine for time periods, I'm pretty sure they can track how many of what somebody has killed. And there's your answer.

No? Ah, well it works like this: The game keeps track of how many "Purple drop qualified" enemies you've defeated. The longer you go without getting a purple from these guys, the better your chances of getting one. I'd probably keep the minimum level to start this system like 45...47? As level ones can get level 50 recipe drops if they're teamed up with a level 50 team. (I'm not sure if that 'qualifies them, under the current system, to get purples, I'm guessing not so, bear with).

Example: Player has killed zero qualified enemies, chance for purple 2%. (I don't know what exactly the drop rate is, I'm just using that figure for this example).
Player has killed 500 qualified enemies, no purple drop, chance for purple increased to 5%.
Player has killed 2000 qualified enemies, no purple drop, chance for purple increased to 8%
Player has killed 10 billion qualified enemies, no purple drop, chance for purple increased to 20%
And so on. Obviously, the number of qualified enemies needed for a drop rate increase would need to be carefully picked at to make it feasible, but not downright easy to get this. Once you've got your purple, your chance to get resets to base value. This would entice your casual players to venture out, knowing that they will MORE THAN LIKELY get a shiney every once in a while, and also (hopefully) keep farmers happy knowing that they're still getting about the same rate of drops anyways.

(I'm not Arcanaville, so I'm not exactly sure if that last statement is true...lawl)

Not with their new magic queue system.

Basically, remember that CoH Alpha was pretty close to what CO is today. In the end they couldn't make it 'work' and decided to degrade into AT's...for the time being it seems.

Would Jack make CoX into what it is today if he were still here? Maybe, I don't think he'd allow the whole MA debacle, though. Jack, and Cryptic, obviously is in this for the money; they probably saw the subs they were getting, not really moving up. So, they could either undertake forming this game into what it basically is now, a pain in the *** apparently due to the engine, or start from scratch. You start from scratch, you (hopefully) get monies from game sales, lifetime subs, and try to open the game up to a wider variety of "peoples", which is why I think the game plays the way it plays (more action-y, to draw in the 360 "crowd"). On top of that, since Cryp isn't....working? For NCsoft anymore, they get to hoard all that money instead of (probably) giving some of it back to NCsoft.

Point is, I don't think this games sub's are going to jump up wildly due to Issue 16, or GR. GR will give them some extra dough due to sales, maybe, but the games been out for 4 years. People who won't bother with it suddenly won't bother with it now that you can have green fireballs and pink ice armor, come on.

LOL, yea because CO is coming out very soon, and probably the exact same time Issue 16 will and. CO has also been in beta status far longer than Issue 16 has, and has probably been under development status far longer than CoX's power customization has. TRY AGAIN.

You people may have "requested" these features in a long time ago, in a galaxy far far away, but CRYPTIC and CO were the FIRST to bring these to fruition (closed beta.) Also, when you guys first thought of these ideas, cryptic was running the game. Thus, they are giving what you asked for, just in a different game. Stop being tards.

Just about everything, just the names of certain groups/people were change to, ya know, avoid being sued or something I dunno.

But made into reality because CO has it. Whatever CO gets, CoX will sure to get shortly after!

Hope for CO to get pet customization, for ye shall be blessed with it shortly after.

Oh and more red bars please! I like red better than green.

The main problem with issue 15's little special clopen beta piece was that players identified stuff, and it didn't get fixed until after it went live anyways.

As far as people whining that "this is broke etc", if the dev's didn't expect this then they are no smarter than not expecting people to exploit AE for massive xp gains when they released that.

Basically, that beta accomplished the same that any of the other 'normal' betas have been doing. They got about the same amount of stuff fixed and released it in about the same time period; thus the difference between having this closed beta BS and what they did in issue 15 is...well I haven't found one yet. Aside from the whiners, but that's to be expected and who cares.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cSyQJkjwaw4

There's your leak, you now know stuff about closed beta that you shouldn't and will be banned soon.

So hurry up and push it to open beta already so we can identify bugs that will make it to live anyways.

Or they could try and gear the game so Stamina is such a requirement. Seriously, does anyone feel super when they go through a mob and find that they have no blue bar? Being exhausted is something I'd expect after battling an AV, not piledriving through a mob of nobodies.

That's why I never got why they called the slotting system "enhancing". A lot of the "enhancements" should be optional; IE "make you better" not a requirement like Stamina and slotting Endredux really are. This is why I like CO's system, I won't be playing the game as I dislike it's art style, but the concept of that you're basically never empty, and never without options, as you may run into in CoX, is a good idea. Especially at lower levels and fighting Mu guys, "well he sapped my endurance and recovery, guess I'll have to hope that he misses the next 5 attacks so I can get some endurance to maybe attack him once"

Follow this guys guidelines, or at the very least, also make it so that tier 1 and/or tier 2 attacks don't cost any endurance at all. Or perhaps do what a lot of other games put in, "out of combat regen/recovery". Great, you survived the mob, can I get my HPs/end back so I can move on without having to stop and take a breather every group? They can do this, per the one day job that increases your out of combat recovery, so why not boost everyones regen/recovery out of combat and just out right eliminate rest: resting is what you're doing when you're not doing anything anyways it shouldn't have to be something you actively have to do ffs.

I'm not using any "trick bullets" in the primary. Just the rubber bullet, which are real. If you pointed out ricochet round, then you rename it to "aoe bullet spam" and it's fine then; that's what it'd look like anyways. And yes, Munitions was meant to be a secondary, using dualies for some of it's animations. I wouldn't see the problem with allowing rifles either. Someone did complain about the double draw but Masterminds deal with that too.

Maybe they'll remove PVP all together in Issue 17: No Looking Back

Might as well, they can't ***** it up anymore than they have.