Zekiran_Immortal

I am not really for any changes to how the powers look based only on the enhancements. However, having seen the progress made by the devs in terms of changing the animations for certain sets, if they had a bunch of people working on it (and it'd take a LONG while I would think) I'd love to see choices based ON origin, but not TIED to it.

So, right now, for any given blaster set there will be "light" and "dark" and "default" versions of some. Some melee sets get slightly different animations (and some quite different). If they created "sets" of stylized animations based on origin, you wouldn't have to choose them ALL, or be restricted to one origin.

Say your Magical origin AR blaster finds a wand (in an rp session or whatnot), they may eventually manufacture some animations with a wand in hand, rather than just "from the fingers". But then later, the same character might want to learn how to use that fancy thing called a "sniper rifle". Or the reverse, whichever. I'm tired.

Essentially a huge run of different origin-style animations for powersets which could benefit from them. Mostly I suspect it'd be ranged, because hitting things is pretty much all in what your character is doing, not what they're holding or what's being shot out from their hands.

I asked specifically at the comic con about this, I believe it was Vince who answered.

Right now, the costumes have 18 "nodes" or locations which can be used. These include each of the distinct areas (upper body, gloves, shoulders, etc). The reason we haven't seen these separately is because they only have 2 available nodes left, and then they'll have to actually redo the entire generator to accomodate new things.

I'm hoping for a more clever use of what we have:

A belt which HAS a tail, for instance. Or, tails with and without belts, but each of those has to be 'remade' with the belt. I wouldn't be against that at all.

But for the moment, the reason we dont' have things like multiple area effects, like a belt AND a tail option, is strictly because the character creation engine *cannot do it* that way. :/

Ugh, San Diego summer hasn't really even started getting HOT. It's been hotter than typical the last month, but our HOT season is October/november when it becomes so dry... oi.

I like the fall. I wish fall was more ... like... it was around the country, instead of here lol.

I should team more. I'd have more fun stories to share too :/ I really should get that db/wp up to a more useful 45 to participate in RtR.

Maybe you should read and learn instead of just dismissing and attempting to make this game into some crappy other one?
You started it. You posted exactly what you meant to - you don't know how to play a blaster, and can't understand how to run melee. Got it.

Don't flatter yourself. It's not that good of a topic.

If you're here in 3 months I'll be very, very surprised. You don't seem to grasp how to play this game very well, and thus it'll have defeated you pretty soundly by then.


Playing the content that is also developed at that same time. It's not "centered around" - that's a huge bonus feature, but the game itself is pretty much like all the others - kill x, escort y, hunt z - it's just way more colorful than most.

I believe you mean "wrong". Or maybe you're just trying to be funny. Ha. Hah.

It is, however it's the game itself that keeps most people playing. It's easy, quick, fun, colorful, AND you don't have to look like every other elf on the map.


Neither of them have demonstrated a huge ability to take the unique aspects of CoH away. In fact, only one of them is even on the horizon any time soon, and it's regularly been panned by folks in beta. Certainly, there will be some crossover population, however that happens whenever a new game comes out on a console too. But people *come back* to Paragon. Because it's *that good*.

Why are you even saying this? And? There's been new content for ages. Lots of it. Issues and issues worth in fact.

... Maybe it will. And maybe the game's engine will get a dramatic overhaul in the meantime. Because that IS what it would take to make such a thing happen.

Most of the mesh customization you want is not possible in an MMO because of bandwidth, load times, collisions, and the like. If you want something more, you'll generally have to resort to playing single-player games, because they don't have to be spread among thousands of people at the same time.

Yes, bringing that pesky "reality" into it really does a job on those pie in the sky fantasies. Keep dreaming.

And thus we get to the part where you show that you haven't yet learned how to slot and play.

.... You aren't even slotting anything at all are you? I mean... Really? You have no idea how to make a blaster ... blast? This has nothing to do with the secondary set, it has to do with you not knowing how to slot OR use tactical thinking.


When you're using it the way you do, I can see why that's a problem. When I use MY energy/energy I ... don't seem to have any trouble quickly going through a map.


And that's one Troller. I have an ice/kin troller who concentrates on holds and slows - and I can freeze the STF's flyer with it. Dying less? Yeah, you bet.

We have two builds to choose from. You could try reslotting for both.

You aren't using what you've got the way that they can be used. See all the above posts about how to do it better. There's no single "right" way, but I can assure you, most of us are thinking 'you're doing it wrong'.

Yes? They're effective AND fun. Noisy. And use knockback. Do you not use the inherent knockback effects with Energy to your advantage? If you don't like the melee powers, take a pool power or two for defense. Combat Jumping, and the Fighting pool are both very useful for defense.

Not even sure what you're trying to say here. Yes, blappers and offenders are frequently made.

You aren't even playing this game.
When I'm playing a defender, I do whatever that powerset can do - be it buffing or debuffing the enemy. I don't waste my time spam healing. I use my secondary attacks to *attack stuff*. By the way: all those attacks usually have some component that can be useful on a team. Sonic for instance, softens things up to take more damage *by everyone else*. Without it? Everyone works harder.


ONLY IN OTHER GAMES. Not this one. This one we can actually be quite effective *without taking any primaries*.


Perhaps you should try it. It works.


Your suggestion has been duly noted and is being picked apart by those who know better. Your idea doesn't have merit, hence the posts against. All blasters have range based powersets. Your use of them may vary.

Yeah I know, it's like that. And of course, if the game doesn't change RITE NAO to whatever flavor of the week solution they've got, it'll be dead by springtime or pick-a-month-some-other-product-ships.

Have you asked for some help making a functional base in the forum for it? It sounds like you've either not got enough prestige coming in, or you have some reorganization to do to make your use of space and items more streamlined. The prices have been dropped ridiculously low, even in my 1-person sg's slighly padded with some alts, I have not had any issues buying the things I need. Maybe you just need to show your base to someone who can help you redo it with an economical eye?

Is it wrong for me to wish that everyone who seriously believes - and bases all arguments here on this belief - that the game is "dying" ... would just leave? It would be so much cleaner and fresher in here.

Yup, this. I just dropped them in my enhancement tray, sold it at ww and bought something else for my flight/combat jumping. Actually I think I had something sitting around for flight, myself. But that's just me.

If there are already IOs in the enhancement slots, they're still worth selling to fund your next batch in a new power.

As has been stated by Ad_astra: I wasn't trying to pwn you - but you certainly seem intent on getting smacked down.

You do know that I filmed a lot of the things in another MMO article, they used my documentation for that thread? I was there talking to the devs about this. I've been playing and in the forum way longer than you apparently, so.... maybe you ought to take a vet's word instead of making stuff up?


I didn't dismiss it: the developers did. Why not read up on the issues that have faced each of the new costume designs in the game, before spouting off more talk like this?

How is this at all different from hitting the existing "random" button? It chooses from the existing stuff just fine. Maybe you haven't tried it? What I got from your post was that you wanted it to actually have a different MESH - the geometry - and from there add random crap. That isn't even necessary - we've got parts. Use em.


.... Um. Yah. As others have pointed out, your logic is heavily flawed. ANY power available is a power... available. TO USE. If you choose not to use them, that's your problem, the game's provided you with lots and lots of tools.


And they can - by the time they hit 41. Epic pools *are intended to allow melee characters to pick some ranged powers* and add to the control/supplimentary abilities of other AT's.

Just because you don't want to include those in the "game" - they're there, balanced FOR this purpose. They've even been expanded on occasion.

NO NO NO NO NO. No. Just... why do you even THINK this? What is it that's stopping you from understanding how a blapper, tanktroller, offender, etc work? I played an emp/dark SOLO to 50 (more or less, back when there was no EB code I had to team) and was well and truly an OFFENSE heavy defender. There are no healers in this game. Maybe you should take that up in the Defender forums and see what "pwning the noobs" is really like. I won't even go in there, the flames are too hot.

Your impression of what each AT is "supposed" to do is extraordinarily limited. Really. Like, I've never seen someone stick to it like this. Each *character* is potentially a gold mine of unique action.

What I get from your assertion that all tanks must tank and all healers must heal:

Everyone will play the same powerserts exactly the same way no matter what those sets are capable of with modification from enhancements.

I can have two electric/empathy defenders and one of them will have lots and lots of recharge and damage in their electric set, while the other chooses to team a lot and use their defensive powers more often.

I can have two tanks that are fire/fire - I do - one with hugely plugged damage and accuracy in their secondary set, and the other with a massive defensive bonus.

One of them chews through things like a scrapper. The other takes his time and lives through major damage. They're both tanks. And?

So... my point is your view on "what at's should do" is wrong. Simply, completely, wrong.


Apparently to you it does, since that's what you just asserted. Above and below.

A blaster MUST get in melee range sometimes. A tanker and scrapper CAN use certain power sets which DO include ranged offenses. You aren't actually playing the same game as the rest of us if you keep insisting they don't.

... What in the world are you even talking about? The title of the powerset and what is in it don't need to even be descriptive. They can call it "aardvark" if they want, what you get in the set is what's there.

Why not those things? Maybe because they'd make that powerset way too strong, or gimp it in another way by not having a different ability.

Not any guide I've ever seen. You are obviously misinterpreting information if you think that the rest of that set is useless. I *don't* take aim and buildup. Almost ever. Because I'd rather have something MORE useful - like... another attack...


Apparently not, if you're not understanding how this one works as explained above by people who've actually been here and paid attention.

If you didn't mean it, you should not have brought it up. You used it as a reference point and I shot it down as being improbably applied to this situation.

I would like you to find a source for this. because I've never, EVER heard of such a thing happening. Ever. You need to be sure of what you're talking about here, because saying something like this is opening you up to being destroyed later on when it turns out it was just hearsay from a friend online or a report that has yet to be brought out by the devs here. You cannot believe everything you read or hear in a game - I will believe it if I see a redname (not that they have freaking red as a color now, which sucks) direct quote about it.

While it's nice that you think that the devs are capable of pulling rabbits out of hats, you also seem to misunderstand the actual game's engine badly enough that everything you want is just out of reach - at least, easy reach. Weapon cleaning is not a vital part of any game unless the game's ABOUT weaponry. We have supersoakers and bows with laser strings. We don't have weapons that need to be cleaned.

If you want you can always just say [[xcharacterx cleans his guns until they are in perfect working order]] and be done with it.


No, it shows that they are dedicated to improving the game to the point that the engine will allow. They already have stated there ARE plenty of limitations. We can't get more than 2 more costume 'types' because there are only two "nodes" left on the character creator to put them on. So... no knee pads or elbow accessories until they figure out there's nothing better else to do with those nodes. (comic con panel, vince I believe)

Actually, no - what we say is "we WANT it. Now would be good." Now = 4 full years, for power colorization/customization. They already have a good list of stuff they know we want. Every once in a while there's a great idea that swings through and a dev catches it, and it gets in quickly. (the names of zones over the Cimerora doors, for instance.)

Basically, you have an extremely limited idea of what each of the ATs CAN be used for, as well as a strangely overblown idea of what the game's even capable of. With time and lots of effort, yes, some things *can* be put in the game.

Whether things *should* be? That's up to the devs to decide. Just beacuse people want something, does not make it good for the game.

It'd be just like those darn undercover cops in Kings Row! Always horning in on my action!!