Wicked_Wendy

I haven't seen it yet but aren't we forgetting one method that doesn't require any special contact at all? AE.. sure it would take even longer with the nerfs but a character could leave Outbeak, or Break Out, and head straight to the AE building and just keep running missions all the way to 50. No training required to get to level 5 for radio/newsapaper missions, no need to worry about contacts.. you have the only one you need (the mission computer), and even a steady supply of inspirations available.

Now we all remember the "I made it from level 1 to 50" AE babies from when this first hit and they bragged about doing so in hours. I'm sure it would take longer now BUT the question was CAN a character go all the way to 50 without every training... I don't see why not using this method. And never even have to leave the first zone they arrive in while doing it.

Early game.. level 10, 15 and 20 IO outshine Training and Dual Origin.

Later one by level 35 IOs are just a bit lower than an SO when first slotted at 27 but are about equal by 30 to 34

From 40 on on .. IOs are much better than their Single Origin counterparts.

Hope that helps :-D

/signed This sounds like a really fun idea I think with a little effort the train mission could work too... Have the character enter the "train" at ant of the normal stations and then just design a train interior for you to fight your way through. While we are at it how about a few missions (red side) where we highjack the Ferry or stop someone else from doing it for our "friendly" Arachnos benefactors? We already have the ship interior.. just make a shorter version with several stroies and replace the cargo with cars and trucks.

I'm not sure what your build is like but I have never had a problem facing a boss solo and have done well facing EBs. My crab is set up as basically a Blaster with a serious attitude problem.. She is also my badger so she has ever accolade with power avialable but all she has in slots are generic 50 level IOs.. not a single set bonus. of course I always have out at least ONE set of pets adding to my damage output.....

then its just Venom Grenade, Frag Grenade, Heavy Burst, Suppression, and then just keep firing until nothing is moving anymore. Channel gun is a definate friend... I have almost NO close range attacks everything is set up for range... Oh and I have my Omega Manuever recharged to be usable about every three minutes. that's always fun.. set that out and get their attention.. web grenade to hold any of the runners in place, fire off a venom grenade to increase potential hit point damage and then start into th attack chain to finish everything off. :-D

I enjoy soloing EBs.. I'm like you when I solo I am usually at normal levels so I don't die frequently. Of course it does depend on the AT.. I have soloed EBs with Tanks, Scrappers, Brutes and even some with my SoA Crab. No way I want to try soloing most EBs with my Controllers or Blasters. LOL My proudest soling accomplishment is with my MA/Regen scrapper.. she soled all of the praetorian villains in Maria's arc

I feel the way most here seem to.. I know there are players out there that have invested the time and BILLIONS in INF to IO out their characters and can solo AVs and GMs but its just not something I feel a need to accomplish. More power to them but I like trying out new power sets and combinations and have close to 40 characters on Virtue.. I use my Influence to fund a small army not one ULTRA Hero. :-D Plus I love to team and AV and GM battles are a lot of fun so why solo when you can assemble a small group and make the AV beg for mercy?

I have considered duoing some AVs just to see how my partner and I would make out. We team up with our DS/DM masterminds and pretty much breeze through missions with a EB in it.... might be fun to up the challenge and take on an AV.. also a good bit more Infamy involved that way. :-D

Opps forgot one.. I have suggested this before but it never hurts to squeek LOUD and LONG. :-D

Do something with the costume missions at 20, 30 and 40.. as they stand they are nothing but a bunch of street hunts and most people do one of two things.

1. Go to a zone where the villain group in question is easy to find and many levels lower than they are so they can quickly plow through it and get back to making their new outfit

Or

2. When available just drop the mission without ever leaving the tailor shop and hit the costume dsigner.

What I suggested a while back was door missions that actually make you feel like your helping Icon instead of just playing bully for hire.

Level 20.. BLUE SIDE I'd love to help you out with a new costume (hero's name) but the Tsoo hijacked my delivery truck and I have no ink to dye fabric the right color. Can you lend a hand in recovering my property? MISSION SET in Steel Canyon and you enter a darkened warehouse and battle Tsoo and click on 3-4 glowies along with defeating the Tsoo leader that engineered the hijacking.

Level 20 .. RED SIDE I could use a hand (villain's name) the Family has a huge warehouse filled with stolen fabrics. If you can get in there and steal some for me it will definately help me cut costs. MISSION SET in Cap Au Diable and you enter and defeat the Family guarding the glowies to earn you 2nd outfit.

Same sort of thing could be done at 30 and again at 40 so instead of mindlessly street hunting the Hero or Villian actual feels like they are helping the tailor and earning another outfit. YEAH I know "supposedly" we are beating up 30 Tsoo to make them stop harrassing the Tailor but that feels more like me being a hired thug than a hero.. works okay Villain side (HEY I AM A HIRED THUG lol) but seems more like I'm being a bully than a hero and if it changed thats 3 less street hunt missions I HAVE to endure on both sides

I'd say yes. Not sure where to start the whole process but obviously the reason Praetoria exists is because people where sick and tired of the same content between 1-20. I started out on COV and moved to COH later so I was thrilled when they introduced Burke to the mix in Mercy. I was so tired of doing Kalinda's repetative SNAKE missions I have never chosen her as my opening contact again. Blue side I'd like to see them do a few more early evel story arcs like they have red side. They don't need to be long or offer up huge amounts of reward merits but give us a story instead of a series of unrelated missions designed solely to get us to level 5 when our contacts ship us off to Kings Row.

Throughout (level 2-50) can we cut back on the FEDEX/Talk to missions and the street hunts please? A few I'd particularly like to see disappear include the "Talk to the Perez Park Security Chief" mission you always get around level 7. Your normally getting this from a contact in Kings Row which forces you to head back to Atlas Park only to discover he wants you to head into Perez and defeat 10 COT... Oh yeah at level 7 I REALLY want to venture into Perez and battle COT after trying to scurry past huge mobs of Hellion, Skulls or Vahzilok all with at least one boss in there and all bent of sending me to the Hospital in Atlas... I have a habit, since it became available, of talking to the Security Chief and then dropping that mission as fast as possible .. so I can get back to KR and do mission I actually WANT to run. Lets see what else do we have. 10 Outcast in Steel Canyon, 10 Trolls in Skyway, and of course almost every contact in Striga sends you off to defeat 10 Council or Banished Pantheon before they will even think about giving you an actual door mission. I don't mind one of these now and then IF it fits into the story line.. Question 10 Council to discover the location of the secret base... but a lot of these, especially at low levels seem to be designed more as mindless errands with no real purpose other than .. "Oh by the way we have OUTCAST in Steel Canyon".

I agree with Sam Tow that some other missions, like Unai's, need an overhaul as well. He sends me to a world filled with Warwolves to plant beacons and I no sooner come back and my very next mission.. go back and fix the beacons I JUST put there? i have a better idea .. contact the company that manufactured the things, since they are obviously junk, and make them send in a team to fix the mess they created in the first place.

I realize assets are limited and no one wants to see any new content or new powers, ect sidetracked but when possible try to update some of the old stuff and make it NEW as well.

My Soldier, Operative Tessa, has gone full circle. She is my badger so I went Rogue, then Hero, then Vigilante, back to Villain and finally back to Rogue. Along the way I picked up all of the instance door mission badges blue side via time travel (While I was a hero) and have joined all of the blue side Task Forces except the ones in the Shadow Shard. I also grabbed all the exploration and history badges. LOL she is running out of defeat badges to acquire after a good bit of hunting on both sides and PvP and holiday events aside has most of the available badges.

I plan to keep her a Rogue now so she can access both side in the future. :-D

I really don't see any penalty involved in any of the alignments. Stay a Hero or a Villain and do the tip missions and you earn A-Merits. Go Vigilante or Rogue and earn reward merits.. along with the ability to cross over to the other side and run missions and collect badges (in all but one case this includes earning added merits by getting all the exploration badges in the appropriate zones .. There is one badge in Atlas that a Rogue can't reach because its buried inside the entrance to Recluse Victory and only heroes and vigilantes have access to that side).

There is absolutely nothing stopping a hero or villain from teaming with vigilantes or rogues, respectively, and doing their tip missions.. as long as they ensure they have completed their 5 hero tip missions for the day first. So really the only content they are unable to reach is from the other side (Red or Blue as the case may be) and since prior to I-18 a hero had NO method to even think about exploring villain content and visa versa I really don't see that as an issue. IF you want to explore all the new tip mission content then switch to Rogue or Vigilante.. there is nothing keeping you from teaming with people doing hero tip or vigilante tips (blue side) or villain and rogue tip (red side) at that point.

As far as I can see all 4 alignments offer some form of reward so it just a matter of WHICH type of reward you want.

Are we talking about the "same" pedestrians that when I do break up a purse snatching say things like.. "Maybe I was WRONG about capes" "Yeah your welcome. And thanks for making me feel so special " LOL

These are the same pedestrians that can't be bothered to take a single step to the side when the approach me and knock me out of the way?

The same ones that inside missions run around like maniacs instead of hiding from the bad guys while I am fighting and sometimes even knock me out of melle range?

hehehe When I come out of Outbreak with a new 2 level I'll wander around Atlas Park defending the innocent mainly because I like to hit the sewers at level 4 ( gives me 3 attacks or a couple attacks and a little defense before I start battling Red and Purple bosses). After that.. At level 50 I am NOT stopping to help some citizen being mugged in Atlas Park. If I am there at all it's probably because some contact sent me there to stop Nemesis from blowing up half the city or The Carnies are up to some new plot. If a Hellion is robbing someone.. that's what the NEW heroes are sent to Atlas for.. let them handle the little stuff.. I am trying to save the whole city from ruin.

By the way.. I fully support the right of Villains in Mayhem missions to shoot to kill. Once all the civilains are gone maybe I can actually get a lock on the PPD Boss trying to remove my head from my shoulders. :-D

I have seen a bit more of this recently but frankly I sort of like it. It's much more realistic than at every spawn pawn finding 3 minions or 1 minion/1 Lieutenant standing there pounding their fist into their palm while they wait to be beaten up. Now they roam a little and you have to work a bit more to find them.

Sorry I like it so I don't see the problem.

Yep I crossed my SoA Crab over to pick up badges I couldn't get as a Rogue. You are still technically in your SG but your name changes color.. May vary depending on srceen resolution but mine was red. You stop earning prestige which in my case meant for the first time in 50 levels I was earning full INF. I only stayed a hero a few days before working my way back to Villain and then Rogue again but did manage to rack up quite a bit of cash in those two days. :-D Once back you are fully reinstated .. of course if you were the leader before that title needs to be given back to you but anything lower is automatically renewed.

For a real Hero feel, sort of like Superman, where you subdue but don't actually KILL anyone I'd go with ..

MA/WP .... gives your scrapper sort of a Bruce Lee as Kato feel

MA/REG ... Sort of the same as above only you have the ability to heal yourself

SD/SS ... I love this set which give you sort of a Capt. America feel

INV/SS .. Definately give the impression of Superman

KM/WP ... Another along the lines of Martial arts

What all these , along with any other combinations like them , have in common is the Hero has no weapon and uses nothing but bare hands and fighting skill to defeat enemies. Yes I know SD has Sheild Charge but that's still just basically hurling yourself forward into your foes and using the sheild to protect yourself and add to the damage.. it is NOT an Assualt Rifle LOL

/ signed I like this idea and can't see how it would take a lot of effort to become a reality. The Taxibots have always referred tp their bases as "The Garage" or the Virtue Garage, Freedom Garage, etc.. since at one point there were active SGs on every server. Now just to come up with a name for the other bases I run. LOL


Let's see...

Sisterhood of KFKA ---- Divine Temple of KFKA (22 characters)

KFKA Two ---- Garden of the Sisterhood (24 characters)

I need more time to think of a good one for the Villain base :-D

Well All of my characters fly and I have used any number of stories to explain it.

My Demon Summoner is a Succubus and sports wings.. So does my BS/SD Scrapper (my Valkyrie)

A number of my characters have magic as their origin .. Hey that's easy I cast a spell and off I go. I have also used this with some mutant origins characters.. Hey if I can mutate and shoot electricity out of my fingers who says my body couldn't have mutated allowing me to fly as well... As example Johnny Storm.. can manipulate fire and shoot fireballs .. also flies very well :-D

With some of the others I have acquired Rocket Boots and that covers it nicely.. this including my SoA Crab Spider.

and when all else fails I resort to Reason # 1 ... I like FLY. I'm to lazy to use teleport, Super Speed gets a little hard to use in areas with a lot of ups and down .. and especially tough in the Shadow Shard. I NEED to get from Point A to Point B to run this mission with my team so if you don't want to teleport me everywhere.. JUST DEAL WITH THE FACT THAT MY CHARACTER FLIES! lol

Just as a suggestion.. and I realize at times while in a mission you MAY delete a few things hoping for something better but DON'T delete unwanted salvage SELL it! Hey you get 250 INF for common and 1000 for uncommon that's not a huge amount but why waste it? And if you do that instead of deleting you never need to worry about deleting anything you don't want gone for good.


As far as I know Reward Merits and Vanguard Merits can't be deleted although honestly I have never TRIED.. and never will. It does make sense that the reason the Hero/Villain merits can be deleted is because they auto delete if you switch to Vigilante/Rogue. Maybe they need a pop up that would ask .. DO you really want to delete these? It already exists for salvage when you sell it. You get a message not only asking "Do the want to continue?" but it even lists the recipes you have (including memorized ones) that require that piece of salvage.