Wicked_Wendy

As Mentioned you do the Yellow First, then Blue and finally Green. For Green you definately need some holds to counter their regen. It's a good idea to select one team member to target through so that everone is attacking the same Mitos at the same time. You can switch between types since yellow are effected mainly by Melee attack, Blue by Ranged attacks and then of course the Green by holds and EVERYTHING you can pour onto them.

NOTE: I have been on a team recently that did suceed without the aid of any serious holds. We used every possible temp power imaginable on the Green Mitos (including my Accolade Crey Freeze Ray Pistol). It worked eventually but if you are building a team do yourself a favor and get someone on that has Holds/Immob.. My Plant/Rad Controller was a team favorite when we got to this mission

Now the past few times I have done the LGTF a new strategy seems to be emerging and I am still not 100% sure if it helps or not. That said we would defeat all of the Rikti but leave the pylons intact while we attacked the Mitos. A team leader explained that "supposedly" this kept Hamidon in check and lessened the damage he does while you are taking out the Mitos. It seems like a good idea and MAY be beneficial but the few times I have seen it used we still had some players die during the attacks ... Not sure if we'd have had more if the Pylons were down or not but its something you can try if you like.


The GOOD news is unlike an actual Hami raid in the Hive or the Abyss you only need to do all that once and then pour on the damage and debuffs until Hami Falls .. there is not 75%, 50% and 25% rebirth of Mitos to contend with but you probably know that all ready (I am rambling and providing as much info as possible for first timers ).

Good luck and have fun


Edit.. Stopped back to add this. Remember the mission takes place through the roof of the Vangaurd Headquarters in the RWZ. Since I 19 hit there is now a combat nurse leaning against the wall right next to the stairs leading to/from the hospital so don't be afraid to rez at full strength back in the hosp, refill your inspirations, and head back in to continue if things are getting a little sticky.

Well let me start off with this.. Let's not switch Hurl with Hand Clap let's get rid of Hand Clap altogether and get something better in there. That is the one power I took and then respec'd out of. I am a melee character and need to be in range for my attacks to work why on earth do I want a power that sends my target flying across the room (or map) and then I have to chase after them to continue? Let's replace that with something similar to Air Superiority (from Fly) or Haymaker (from the SS set). Knock them down so they can't attack again until they stand up not shoot them across the room and now I have to run after them.

Hurl isn't a bad power but to be honest it has some knockback associated with it as well and while I have taken and kept that I set it aside and only use it in special cases... If I want to taunt from a distance or if I am toe to toe with a AV (since I know it will do damage but most AVs are not going to get knocked anywhere).

Footstomp is awesome (IMO) and with damage enhancers not only taunts and knocks everything in range down it can do decent damage. I have a SD/SS Tanker and I will hit a mob with Shield charge and then follow up with Foot stomp. At that point everything is completely foused on me with ever once hitting taunt and most of the minions in the mob are close to dead before the team even opens up with AoEs.

Its true unlike say .. Superman our SS doesn't stack up well but it's a good set and could be better with one or two changes

well first of all jade let me start by saying I do not consider my Rogues or Vigilantes to be second class citizens. My 50 level Crab Spider is my badger and she has made the transition from Villain, to Rogue, to Hero to, Vigilante, back to Villain and finally back to Rogue. In the process, through teaming and time travel, she has successfully completed almost every Task/Strike Force in the game (I have yet to do any of the Shadow Shard TFs with her). She has completed every instanced door badge mission a hero or villain can do and has every exploration and history badge imaginable (including those in Praetoria now that it is available to all).

Why haven't I kept her as either a hero or villain? I enjoy being able to team with friends on both red or blue side and as a Rogue she continues to assist the Villain Group she helps run.


That said there are a few points you made I definately agree with..

1. Open up the Ouroborus portal so Rogues and Vigilantes can access either side using it. I know there are people that CLAIM its not supposed to be an alternate means of travel but I always Laugh when I see that here in posts and wonder exactly how many of them DON'T use the portal during Task Forces to quickly get to a new zone. I did the Statesman TF the other night and everyone had to wait on me while I made my way back from PI to IP before we could take on the Thorn tree. I WAS the only Rogue on the team and everyone else Ouro Portaled back to IP after completing that mission. If I have access to BOTH sides give me access to both sides! PERIOD!

2. A few contacts, other than Radio/newspaper, we could access on the opposite side would be nice. I understand them not wanting us to have access to every contact but I am a Vigilante in the Rogue Isles working with a contact in Sharkshead and running missions based on clues he sends me through the newspaper BUT after I pull a successful bank robbery for him and he introduces me to a new contact.. they won't talk to me? Why did I even bother? As you mentioned this could be as simple as setting code to recognize that Micky the Filch realized I am a Vigilante and sends me to a "special" contact that gives out Vigilante based missions.

Now as for rewards actually I continue to do my 5 Rogue tips a day and a moraility mission and I get 60 Reward Merits every two days. That's 420 every two weeks or 1560 a year without ever doing a TF. So yes Rogues and Vigilantes do continue to get rewards for reaffirming their alignment. Also keep in mind that with all the new Exploration Accolades and opening up Praetoria to ALL .. Rogues and Vigilantes now have access to every one of those bonuses (5 Reward merits for each zone you get all 8 badges in). So a Rogue now can get as many as 125 Reward merits, or more, than a Villain for doing nothing more than flying around a zone and landing in the right spot 8 times. Vigilantes benefit as well but there are a lot less zones in COV than COH so here the Rogue makes out much better.

Actually while the ITF and LGTF do offer more chances for shards and a bonus component upon completion the 3rd respec would not be a bad change of pace. As mentioned it offers the chance for shard drops, chance for Purple recipe drops, since there is no component gift at the end it awards 20 reward merits, it's against Rikti so there is the chance for Vangaurd Merits ... which can be used to but a Gr'ai matter Component and even with 30 minutes of boring time in the reactor it usually doesn't take more than 1 hour to complete. Since its open to anyone from 44-50 it adds on more level of players for recruiting purposes (and still has the chance for shards as long as the leader is a 50)

Obvioulsy if there was a LGTF, ITF, STF, KTF, etc available and I had the time i'd do one of those first but this could be a nice change of pace. I now have six of my 50 levels slotted with uncommons and I have done every 45-50 level SF/TF so many time the details are beginning to blur. LOL

I think you get the general idea. With 2 days left before the holiday it's time to draft those wish lists and get them Santa (War Witch) and all his (err her) busy elves (the rest of the Dev team.. DUH).

Dear Santa,

I've tried to be a really good girl this year and even my Villains have all gone Rogue and done SOME good deeds. What I'd really, really, really like this year is:

1. The rare and very rare slots opened up on the Alpha... My main now has close to 90 shards and over 15 components after crafting both the Cardiac Core and Cardiace Radial Boost and I need something to do with all that stuff.

2. New Task Forces to run at 50 level.. I have done so many ITF, LGTF. KTF, STF, LRSF and BSFs I am starting to get them confused.... We beat up Lord Recluse and his lieutenants on the Kahn TF right?

3. I recently finally got to do a Cathedral of Pain Trial and it was lots of fun Santa but can't we please find a way to get INF, XP and Prestige for all those Soldiers of Rularuu we have to defeat to get at the Aspect of Rularuu. This one isn't mandatory Santa since the End Bonus is HUGE but it would be a nice treat... maybe it could be a stocking stuffer.

4. Some new Tip missions for Rogues and Vigilantes. I sort of assumed when I heard there were new tip missions it was for all types not just Heroes and Villains. I am still doing the same tips I got pre Issue 19. On a side note Santa, and please don't take this the wrong way since the new mission in Pocket D against Lady Winter more than covers things, but why no Winter tip mission like we got at Halloween? Maybe next year?

As always I will leave you a nice plate of Cookies and some milk near the fireplace at base and I am making sure to turn off the defense systems so we don't have a repeat of that unfortunate incident that occurred last year. I hope the check I mailed covered the repair costs to your suit and that the laser didn't cause any serious damage to your.. well your.. Oh geez I sure hope you don't still need that inflatable donut to sit on anymore!

MERRY CHISTMAS TO ALL

I'd be happy just being able to customize the color of my Bots. I have a ILL/EMP controller and can change the color of my Phantom Army and my Phantasm but my bots are stuck with one color scheme? I see Fire Imps running around in every color of the rainbow. Now before the HUGE debate begins about that being different because Phantom Army fades away after a few minutes or I have no control over my Phantasm like i do with my Bots..... Are they a POWER? I'd say yes since I select them just like I do any other power on any other character. So because I can rename them I can't color them the way I'd like? Hardly seems like a fair trade off.

Ah HA! lol I thought that might be the case.. I always wondered why Apex was a 2 mission TF and Tin Man only 3.. okay so they have some different parts its still only 2 and 3 missions and I have story arcs from Contacts that are longer. Still I like the break down .. 1 short TF concerning Praetoria invading Primal Earth and the second concerning us repelling the invasion and attacking them in Praetoria.


It's very cool that you got to play with GF. I'd love to get a chance like that but I'd probably be really nervous.

You are a Crab Spider.. the backpack is not an option its a requirements (unfortunately). A while back someone posted that they'd found a way to create a costume without one and I raced to the tailor. It actually did work and I left with a brand new outfit minus 4 extra mechanical arms. Then I zones and when I arrived in the new zone .. POOOOOF it was back. As far as I know there is no way to take it off. Now you do have dual builds so you could create a 2nd build where you pick Bane powers and not crab and then all you'd have to do to go packless is switch builds.

Don't forget Rogues and Vigilantes are not just left out in the cold as far as rewards for tip missions go.. 60 Reward merits every 2 days can add up very quickly. Now add in the fact that a Vigilante or a Rogue has access to both sides and ALL of the Exploration badges (except one unless they fixed that) so they also can get all of those ZONE exploration accolades and another 5 reward merits per zone... which amounts to over 34 zones that award 5 merits for a total of 170 not to mention the 6 new ones all characters have access to in Preatoria. Obviously this is a much bigger deal for a Rogue since they pick up over 25 hero zones (125 Reward Merits) that a villain can't access.

As metioned Rogues and Vigilantes gain access to added TF/SFs and for the badgers easier access to many defeat badges (Defeating 500 skulls is a LOT simpler in Perez Park hero side than trying to get them in Mercy as a villain) and (Cold demons and Family Bosses , not lieutenants, show up a lot more often in Sharkshead and St. M than on the Hero side).

Not that there aren't advantages to staying a hero or villian but before you even get into the expanded content aspect it's very clear from a rewards stand point that rogues and vigilantes are NOT suffering either

NO WAIT WAIT! We have space Aliens, we have people being raised from the dead by space aliens... OMG the game is gradually evolving into... PLAN 9 FROM OUTERSPACE!

We must be on the look out for anyone resembling Bela Lugosi wandering around the graveyards with his arm up in front of his face and constantly chasing scantily clad females. Okay technically walking along behind them at a pace so slow he never actually catches them but the man was dead long before the movie was complete so who can blame him for moving so slow LOL

I soloed her with my SD/SS Tank. Died once when One With The Shield ran out but after a quick trip to the Hospital I finished her off. I used one teir three purple along with my Secondary Mutation and Buff pet to add to my defenses. She puts up a good fight but can be soloed.

They announced a 2 hour (maximum) down time begining at 1PM Eastern Time. While they gave no details the general consensus was this is to fix the problems everyone is experiencing with the Winter Lord portion of the event content. I plan to check back in about 20 minutes. They always say 2 hours JUST to be safe but if that's all they are fixing I'm sure it will take much less time.

Day one of 2010's Winter Event and already the usual rude behavior has begun.. I was in Grandville opening up presents and frequently finding small spawns of 4,5 or 6 Winter Horde roaming around waiting to be defeated or to despawn.

I made the following post in broadcast;

Broadcast] Operative xxx (ME) ahhh and the traditional .. I don't have time to deal with my own mess So if its a naughty package i just run off and leave has begun here in Grandville Lovely to see the holiday tradition continues

[Broadcast] Operative xxx (ME): clean up your messes

And of course I got the typical replies:

[Broadcast] BACKTALKER ONE: i don't have a dog

[Broadcast] BACKTALKER TWO: I've never understood why people complain about that

Broadcast] BACKTALKER ONE: Can't watch their step?


I tried to explain knowing full well it was useless:

[Broadcast] Operative xxx (ME): how about because I am a 50 level i spawn a 49 level group and a 40 level stumbles on them HE DIES

[Broadcast] Operative xxx (ME): oh and guess what I have gotten candy canes from killing spawns MY spawns So your lossing out leaving them

Then I got this ....

[Broadcast] BACKTALKER TWO: So, lets say I want the Toy Collector badge on a support toon who can't solo a full group of spawns. It's not too hard to just watch where you're going, or to avoid mobs altogether if you're a low level

Now I didnt bother to reply because I have seen these arguments before and you can't convince anyone of ANYTHING in this game. But I couldn't help but wonder if your build is so bad that you can't handle a 3 minion spawn from a Holiday Gift Package solo then maybe instead of racing around from package to package as fast as possible you should be looking to get on a RESPEC team because you seriously need to work on your build. I have played Defenders, Controllers, Corrupters and Dominators not to mention MasterMinds (all of the typical "support" ATs) and I can't think of a single build I ever had that was so weak I couldn't deal with a 3 man mob of minions. The best part was I was running outside the city along the beach on the west side and MY spawns were coming up everything from level 40 to level 49. I never even saw a 50 level spawn from a package I opened so if the same was happening to others .. you are honestly telling me you can't tackle a spawn that's as much as 5 or 6 levels lower than you? NO what you are doing is seeing just how fast you can get from package to package and you couldn't care less if that means someone else ends up in debt because YOUR time is too important to be wasted actually defeating your own spawn.

Ahhh the holidays are here and the RUDE IDIOTS are back Merry Christmas to us one and all !!