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They are going to HAVE to do that anyway do to the fact that Villain side we only have 6 total SFs. Oh and I am sure anyone that plays nothing but villains will be heartbroken if they get to run a Silver Mantis SF for their weekly Notice and finish in 90 minutes or less while Heroes are struggling through 4 -5 hours trying to complete a Doc Q in the Shadow Shard.

I didn't bother to post when this was first announced but come on.. Okay so the villains are out of SFs and have to repeat.. And that means heroes can't be tasked to run Citadel? or Synapse? or Posi 1? Posi 2? I wasn't happy with this new system when it first came out to begin with.. I have 50 level characters that still need shards to hit tier three or four and I HAVE to do a Manticore to get my Notice? Which mean until Issue 20 I get NO shards and I obtain Recipes and salvage at the level of the TF/SF I am on instead of 50 level stuff I can actually USE and of course forget the possibility of a PURPLE recipe drop while running a Manticore or Sister Psyche. But EVERYONE said we had to include the lower level TFs for the players below 50 so they can get the double Merits. I figured okay at least as the TFs post I can get a few of my 50s that never did them all the TF Commander in addition to the weekly Notice. NOW we aren't doing all the TFS because someone might get upset because hero side has more options than villain? LOOK I play BOTH sides and you want more options heres a little friendly advice.. try using the systems in place and GO ROGUE or VIGILANTE.. you'd be amazed but suddenly all the TFs, SF and even trails on BOTH sides are open to you. Heck I have even done Hami raids on both the red and blue side.. IN THE SAME WEEKEND and COP Trial (with different character) on both sides in the same DAY.

In case you can't tell I am a little bit tired of the same old excuse to justify everything being thrown out.. "Well it might upset someone" What about the X number of players this kind of crap upsets anyway? To Paraphrase PT Barnum.. "You can please some of the people some of the time, most of the people most of the time BUT you can't please all of the people all of the time!"

Now a HUGE DEAL was made when the WST first appeared and we were told it could be ANY TF from Posi 1 all the way to Statesman or APEX. People were shaking in their shoes over the possibility that they'd need to run Doc Q and now so we don't upset the tiny portion of RED Side only players that would even care all we get is a constant repeat of Sister Psyche and Manticore along with the normal 45-50 and 50 + (Alpha slotted) Tfs. Either DO what they said they'd do and use them all or run one WST for the incarnates (all the TFs and SFs from 45-50 level) and a second with anything under that for the 2-49 levels.

heheh Yeah I get a kick out of those missions myself. Here's another along those same lines.. On numerous occasions (RED SIDE MOSTLY) i have gotten missions to stop the Council and find myself headed into the door of a building in the heart of the city. Zone in and POOF I am in the sewers. Hmmm okay who was the Archetect on this project?

Hmmm like the alternate titles and definately agree GOOD LORD NO .. we cant use Escort Service. I play on Virtue and can just imagine the RP that badge title woule inspire. lol

I can see your point Lothic but then a lot of the Defeat badges are a grind... I about lost my mind hunting down Marcone Bosses in Port Oakes. Spent a good hour or more in the Shadow Shard taking out Fake Nemesis.. and had the badge for Overseers long before I finished the Fakes. Rikti Monkeys can be a grind if you soloed a lot of the RWZ arcs.. and I cant even imagine the dedication it took if anyone had that badge before they dropped the total from 10,000 to 1000. Badgers will do whatever it takes to earn the badge. One of the reasons I stressed ANY hostage was to make it a little easier... The one side mission in a Safeguard where you stop the break in has three hostages you can rescue alone... So if you do 5 of those to earn the badge associated with it you just picked up 15 hostages! There are stop the bank robber missions on the Police Scanner that also have three bank tellers to save. And I'd also include missions like the one's in Faultline where you "rescue" Fushionette and Arbiter Sands, or the ones in the RWZ where you rescue Fushionette and Faultline. Sure once you rescue them they may actually stick around and help you fight but YOU still rescued them .. in my mind that counts as a hostage situation.

EXACTLY Call it whatever you like 50 (+1). 50+1 or just 51.. after I slotted my first tier 3 and got my LEVEL SHIFT suddenly level 50 minons conned BLUE to me and I even found Elite Bosses on the ITF that were no longer PURPLE they were YELLOW.. I personally like to type in the 50 (+1) when I am advertising my services to any team but I see plenty of people that simply use 51 to save time. Everyone knows exactly what both methods mean.. "Hi I am looking for a team and my character has a teir 3 or 4 slotted in my Alpha. So basically I can kick the crap out of just about anything"


RELAX Choas there are plenty of other things to /rant about. This seems like a pretty small issue compared to other things happening in game.

Yep I have always found this to be true. We have the friendliest and most helpful community it MMORPG. I have never really tried "WOW" but have heard horror stories about being foolish enough to ASK a question in broadcast. You spend 30 minutes being told exactly how stupid you are and call things that make Noob seem like a compliment. Here not only will someone answer your question but usually it more like 2, 3 or more and if anyone left out one tidbit of info .. someone else added it.

I realize there are a lot of GOOD people out there leading Mo Runs and I admire there determination but personally the Master Of Requirements just sort of turn me off. 1) no temp powers.. I worked to get those one way or the other.. Vet Powers I earned by continuing to PAY for my account here, Day Jobs I earned by faithfully returning my character to the "Job" site every time i used them and the others? .. I ran missions and defeated countless enemies to earn the right to have them so someone suddenly yanking them away from me is a bit insulting. And 90% of the time I don't use them anyway LOL 2) no deaths.. I've been on teams that did a TF and when it was over we realized that not a single player had dropped and it felt GREAT. Joining a team where the overall feeling is "If I mess up and die we blow this thing!" isn't great .. its stressful and I think the vast majority of the players here come to COX to release Stress and relax not ADD to it. Any time I have been on a MO run I have found myself getting away from my normal play style.. being much more conservative because I personally didnt want to be the one that blew it! I have some horror stories of runs I've been on but I wont list them here. I did have one nice MO run recently when Kahn was the WST. My tank joined a team and we decided to try for a Master of badge.. now the leader was very cool, and this was a PUG, and said if we failed we failed no big deal.. Well I'd already done a couple runs with my Tank and knew I could pound on Reichmann all day without him hurting me so I played my normal style and things went great. We got to the final mission and had just taken out the last of Reichmann's AVs ( I think it was Countess Crey) when one of the Squishier team members got a little too close as Reichmann delivered one of those Lightning bolt attacks of his and POOF the MO was gone.. about one minute later so was Reichmann and no one cared one way or the other.

The main thing here is just what justifies anything being TOP FIVE? the OP wants to use time and glorify Speed Runs.. Well I joined an ALL VEAT ITF a while back and we did a kill all. With 8 VEATS stacking defenses and improving accuracy nothing could touch us and everything dropped that got in our path. About the only thing we didn't do was climb the stone walls in mission three and take out the Cimeroran Traitors up there. When Romulus fell we had completes the TF in 50 minutes.. No deaths and we stuck around afterwards to clear towers, walls etc.. I left with 11 shards, my Salvage, Recipes, and enhancement trays full (including a purple recipe I got 400 million out of at Wentworth). Now I have heard of SPEED RUNS finishing in 15, 16 ?? whatever minutes. YEAH your fast.. but how much richer are you? Did you get X number of Purple drops? How many shards did everyone get (since this has become a pretty big issue lately)? See my point? I am not saying there is anything wrong with Speed Runs or MO Runs but aside from a FEW people's opinion that THAT is some sort of standard all TFs should be judged by how is getting done fast any better than getting done SLOW but finishing with a TON more stuff?

No matter what sort of standard that is applied it will upset SOMEONE so lets just NOT have a TOP FIVE list and keep everyone from finding another reason to *****, gripe and moan at one another here and in game.

No... I have nothing personally against Speed Runners but a top ten list dedicated to "See how fast we managed to run that! Yeah we had 100 deaths. Yeah the 40 level on the team barely wnet up two bars. What's you point?" And while I have done a few MO runs here again I have seen way too many where the strategy is .. "You 6 guys stay here and DON"T do anything. When we finish up we will teleport you to the end so you can help with the AV." Yeah both of those are so much fun for the majority of the players on any team LETS GLORIFY THAT!

Sorry unsigned here too... the game lags bad enough at times without adding a ton of voices and as DarkGob mentioned what quality actors will be lured to do these voice overs?

Again as previously mentioned I have to say no. YEAH I feel your pain here myself. After 13 Kahn TFs in a couple days I was ready to go to Grandville and personally pound the crap out of him but just because we have seen it a hundred times doesn't mean it's not the first time for someone else. Unless they can find a way to do it on an individual basis I can't agree to that.. and even if they could it brings up another issue. Everything sort of freezes while a cut scene plays so that when you return to the game that 5th column warwolf that was about to attack you is still a foot or two away. If some players on the team are not watching the cut scene and still fighting does the game freeze for those that do watch? or do they return from viewing and find themselves dead? Too many variable .. leave it alone

Not sure if its the TF itself or just some of the players it attracts but i know what you mean. I did one this week and the brute and one scrapper started that in mission one. unfortunately the leader never called them on it and we just kept plugging away. Mission two was even WORSE.. those two ran ahead destroying shards and at one point about 4 of us stood in the same spot for quite a while dealing with one ambush after another .. THE BIG BAD BRUTE.. runs in and smacks around an inanimate object and lets a Crab Spider, A scrapper and two trollers deal with multiple Elite Bosses! By this time I am ready to explode but its not MY team and our fear FUL (?) leader isn't objecting. Mission three wasn't quite as bad.. With all those Elite bosses surrounding each general our two SPEED RACERS have to slow down and wait for the team or spend a good deal of time face down waiting on us .. Until the last general falls anyway. Then they race to the Phallanx Generator and ATT the entire teams there. Now this was a pretty solid team but still I REALLY don't enjoy the suprise of arriving at that generator to discover Requiem and Romulus are also there along with a few dozen of their closest friends. Squishies DIE just trying to take out the generator as the Robots spring to life without adding 2 AVS and a pile of bosses, lieutenants and minons to the mix. SOME HOW we get through that, with several face plants, and move on to the final mission.

Where NATURALLY our two bad boys head straight to Romulus and ATT the team. Somehow the entire TF became THEIRS and the leader, who was I believe around level 42 and looking for XP, just let them have their way. I one starred both of those APES and will never play on a team with either ever again.

I had another where a Scrapper kept running off doing his own thing and the team got to the point where they wer actually taunting him in team chat to try to get him to T E A M! Final mission WE decided to go left and fight our way to Rommi and then anyone that wanted could stay for the towers.. SCRAPPY announces "go ahead and fight to him. I'll take out the towers while you do" And he did just that. Even while we cleared the area around Rommi's plaza of 5th Column and then took out the troops in front of the steps .. this guy was in the mountains battling solo. I was amazed the idiot didn't swoop down to rush Romulus and spawn the ambushes.. we actually pulled to the grass to avoid those since a few of the players were having lag issues.

It all makes me wonder if any of these jerks has the slightest idea what it means to be a part of a team. A team is supposed to work TOGETHER and assist one another .. NOT run off and do whatever you dang well please and leave your team mates to endure the aftermath. I have no qualm with people that enjoy Speed Runs per say but the mentality is by no means team oriented. Tanks/Brutes/Scrappers/etc rush ahead killing everything they HAVE to kill while if the squishies are smart they huddle against the entrance door in fear and wait for it to be over. I have TRIED to follow these idiots before and wound up face down far too many times to ever want to be on one again. As long as a team leader makes it clear its a speed run I have no problem and simply look elsewhere but they don't always bother with that little fact.. I actually quit a team earlier this week in the middle of mission two. I was face down after trying to deal with an ambush solo while the Tank raced ahead to the next Crytal shard. I hit the hospital and responded to some BS comment he made to the team with "yeah well you can do all that without me because i am tired of this BS and not putting up with it anymore!" I found another team in like 5 minutes and we did a kill most that was done in 50 minutes.. I left with 7 more shards, an ancient nictus fragment and a purple recipe that sold for 200 million. I'm sure they finished in much less time but with a LOT less shards and I wonder how many purple recipes those boys get a month. My badger has had three this week and has now given away, to my other alts, more than 1.4 billion in INF becasue she is carrying around 1.9 billion.. oh and she has a 50 level IO in every slot and has the portable IO Craftbench from the accolade ( Yes she has EVERY generic recipe memorized). Give me a nice slow Kill all any time

Do that and then laugh at him when he can't find "support" players for his TF. Awww gee my Demons make noise? They also kick serious butt and then throw in my DM which debuffs like crazy and YOU don't want to team with me? Fine.

I rank that right up there with an older post I saw here a while back where some one felt it was rude that MMs didn't dismiss their minons while buying or selling at WW/Black Market. My first thought was "So are you one of the idiots that leaves on every toggle you own while your there and adds to the HUGE amount of lag in places like Talos?"

I play Demons and about the only complaint I have is the dang things tend to try and crawl up my butt. I have to play tag with them at time to get in doors. Hey if I can live with the grunts, growls and wails constantly I think anyone I may team with for an HOUR?? Or TWO can survive the noise. If not go ahead and quit and find another TF or team. Besides mine are so cute and cuddly who could anyone possible hate them. hehe

Ohhhh I like that idea. Let's drop the freakshow show in there as well so we have two rival gangs sort of battling it out for control. Only problem is where do we move the Family and all those casinos? That has a certain Las Vegas, back in the day when the mob ran things, feel to it and I enjoy it too. Hey how about we just keep St M as is and add a NEW Red Side zone called Carnie Island and do what you suggested there? Give the place a feel and look like "Escape from New York" where the crazies ran the whole city.. with Carnies and Freakshow running around settikng things on fire "just for fun!"

They could even add a few new contacts to include an Arachnos Arbiter in charge of a small containment force that works undercover to try and control things on the island and keep the crazies from getting away and disrupting any of the other Rogue Isles city zones. He would give you missions inside the zone and always end his briefing with "Now if anything goes wrong in there remember.... You are totally on your own and we are NOT coming in there to help. I've lost too many men trying that."

Have a nice day and don't get too close to the crazy people LOL

Or at least that's what the Cartel WANTS you to believe muwahahaha!

No seriously As has been pointed out just get on here and start typing and hitting send. In a few years time you too can have thousands of posts to your credit and be just like us... Totally insane hehe Welcome to the forums!

Love it Guy..

Now let's get into some specifics:

Synapse Rule # 1 and #2 Generally this thing takes close to 2 hours and the main reason is .. a defeat all to start things off, followed by a street hunt and then after a quick talk to mission.. three straight defeat alls, followed by a patrol (OH WE ALL JUST LOVE PATROLS) and then another defeat all. Simple fix... Convert mission #1 into finding and clicking a glowie that contains that electrical Anomoly which presently just happens to always ne in the possession of the last Clockwork in the building. Want to make it a bit more of a challenge then force the team to clear the room the glowie is in before getting mission complete. Then eliminate at least one, preferably two, of the Defeat all Clockwork in the Station missions. I'd say remove the patrol, simply because I generally view them as mindless time killers, but on occasion it does come in handy if team members want to train and enhance since it doesn't take 8 people to click a few patrol boxes. Then change the current Stop all robots in headquarters mission into a defeat Leader and crew mission. NOW let's seriously delete PATROL number two and simply have the location of Bertha's base be a clue we find when we defeat the Boss in the HQ mission. So to recap we switched 2 missions from defeat all to defeat the leader and crew. eliminated 2 (or at least one) defeat all and one patrol. Suddenly Synapse can be finished in 90 minutes or less and doesn't feel quite so much like we are NEVER going to see the end.

Citadle Rule #1 and # 2 Okay Citadel is a bit shorter and can usually be accomplished in about 90 minutes unless you just have one REALLY bad team but again its a serious of mindless defeat alls with a couple of Defeat the leaders tossed in. Missions one and two don't even require the team members, other than the leader to travel since they always always ALWAYS share the same door in Ind Port. Okay lets start with mission 1/2 Leave one a defeat all but switch the other to a defeat the base leader and minions to cut a little time and curb the boredom.. and for heavens sake MOVE the entrance to mission 2 to at least another spot in IP.. Geez I think we can find another door soemplace! After mission 2 leave everything else alone through the street hunt.. One suggestion>>> Another problem people have with Citadel is every single mission is in those twisting turning cave bases.. move a couple to the sewers or a warehouse just to give us something else to look at and a few breaks from navigating through rock wall. Now lets consider the defeat 40 Council .. and then lets toss it out completely. Thanks to the 5th Column resurfacing finding 40 council members anywhere is like pulling teeth and beside I HATE street hunts. And that brings us to the three straight defeat all missions .. every one one of these requires the team to also click 3 glowies so switch them all to clicking the glowies and to keep it interesting make two of them situations where the entire room the glowies are in must be cleared as well (so it doesn't become just a race to see how fast we can click 9 glowies in three different missions). To make this work better move a couple of these out of the cave bases and into warehouses.. that way it could even be possible that 2 or even all three glowies are located in the same large room.

Manticore Rule # 3 Manticore while not THE most popular TF is actually pretty good as far as rule 1 and 2 go. Aside from a couple street hunts most missions are defeat the base leader or click the glowie to complete. If anything could make it better lose the hunt missions... In case you haven't figured it out yet every team looks for the lowest level Crey can can find and pounds them fast to move on not caring a bit if they earn a scrap of XP or INF. What really needs to be worked on here in HOPKINS Sorry but just like Guy says the man simply does not present much of a challenge these days. The TF tops out at 35 so when a group of 50 join one they keep all their powers up to level 40 (or one level away from epics). We are all IOed out these days and Hopkins and his pathetci minons drop in a heartbeat. Here's an idea.. Add in Countess Crey herself and possible even a third brand new Crey AV to join Hopkins in that warehouse for a meeting to finalize their evil plans. Now that would make for an interesting ending.

Numina Rule # 6 Please God stop boring me to death with midless street hunts against villains so low I can take out 10 with one AoE attack. This weels WST is a monumement to seeing if we can bore the team to death. Fifteen straight street hunts and all but a few against low level villains that offer up no xp, no INF, no salvage and no recipes. Rule one is almost never an issue .. I have done 9 or 10 this week and with stealth most were complete in under an hour.. without in about 1 hour and 20 minutes. But this TF has several flaws now .. 1) Faultline has been revamped and no longer has huge mobs of Vahzilok roaming the streets.. while it isn't impossible finding and defeating 20 can be one of the longer tasks and gets even more interesting when its the WST and 4 or 5 teams are trying to defeat the same small groups located there 2) Once again the 5th Column have bullied the Council into hiding and to make matters worse when we do find Council the 5th column immediately attack them and we have to fight to get credit for kills. 3) Zone event which didnt exist when whoever dreamed up this nightmare. The very first Numina I did this week was stopped twice... once by a banner event in Faultline and then again by a Rikti invasion in Talos. That nightmare ended at just over 2 hours. i don't even know where to start with suggestions here... My own opinion would be get rid of all 16 hunts and actually add a few more door missions that involve the actual spotlighted villain group .. the Devouring Earth. Presently we start off a battle Freakshow, the Crey, then Nemesis, followed by COT before the long list of street hunts begin. Only the final two missions of the entire task force even involve DE and to make matters worse.. we don't even fight an AV we battle Jurrasik and a scaled down "MONSTER" not GM version of him that doesn't even award the badge we can get by facing him in CF. Want to spice thing up a bit.. Make him a GM and award an extra 2 merits and the defeat badge for taking him out in the cave. with very few exceptions an 8 man team can tackle Jurrasik in CF and this might makes team leaders think a bit more when team building considering what they face in the final. IF you won't eliminate the hunts at least do this.. in another similar post someone suggested eliminating the zone specific defeats. Okay defeat 10 Clockwork... I am already in Perez park which has Clockwork everywhere why do I need to go to Atlas Park for them? This would also deal nicely with the issue of Zone events.. okay the Rikti are invading Kings Row at the moment I am headed to Perez Park to defeat 10 Skulls. It will also make finding and defeating 20 Council a lot easier.. I can head to Striga where they have a huge base full of them and gee very few 5th column to steal my kills. Vahzilok of course can be found almost anywhere..Atlas, Galaxy, KR, Steel, and Perez Park so no more problem with not even to go around on WST weeks.


hehehe I'd go one but decided to limit it to the big six involved in the TF Commander accolade and beside you REALLY don't want me to start telling you how to FIX Doc Q. This doesn't involve switching missions at all. After doing it twice now in more than 5 years ( over 5 hours on the first and slightly more than 4 the last time with my badger) it involved one of those hospital tables with the tie down straps and making sure the good Doctor never has ANY offspring. Ahh back to actually playing the game.. Have fun I am SURE this will result in a series of posts about how my ideas would ruin things horrible .. Yeah we might actualy have FUN on a TF instead of fighting to stay awake and alert. ... "Did she just say that?" lol