Wicked_Wendy

And I quote SinisterDirge>>>

we got a third trial to run .. people were screaming for more content because of the repetition with only 2.

They improved buffing for a number of sets to make life easier and let people actually enjoy playing the game again.

We got a new system that will allow us to share threads, A & E Merits etc with our other characters

and your only comment is essentially .. Unfair it will take forever before I can buy the new armor? Don't get me wrong the new shinies look nice and eventually I will acquire them but I am pretty much happy with the 5 outfits I have on my 50 levels now so I'll be slotting other heroes as I can long before I worry about the AURA trailing along behind me.

I know what you mean.. Lag has sort of forced me to stop doing the BAF and about the bast I usually see on the Lmabda is uncommon and OCCASIONALLY a rare .. very very very occasionally. Hopefully that will change but until it does at least we have a lot of new stuff to enjoy.

Yep Organica you and DrakGob have hit that nail squarely on its head. I'm actually a little suprised on one hand that THIS thread took so long. Why wait till the Trial has been tested let's start bad mouthing it as soon as we hear it was being planned. /em rolls eyes

I lost track of how many threads there were screaming that only having 2 trials to open the 4 new powers was awful.. too much repetition. We NEED more variety. So now as MORE VARIETY appears.... Why would anyone want to do that it looks hard?

As mentioned ... How about actually doing the trial a few times, devising strategies that work and OMG look we completed the KeyesTrial! Gob was dead on.. when the ITF came out... people were moaning it was too hard. You needed two tanks or a tank and Brute so you could keep the Healing nictus away from Romi etc, etc.. NOW? I have done succesful ITFs that didn't have a tank or a brute and you know what.. aside from chasing ROMMI a bit more (with no aggro control he tendes to run around a lot) .. we attacked him and not only took him out while the nictus TRIED to heal him but dealt with the ambushes as well. I wasn't crazy about the APEX until I learned to shoot and move. now i have several characters with Master of Apex.

Now on the the BAF and Lambda and I have to ask what severs are some of you on and who the heck are you teaming with? I can't recall the last BAF or Lambda I was on that failed. Where are these "GRIEVERS" coming from that have you all so worried about the Keyes trial because I am on Virtue and at this point have lost track of how many of both i have done and never saw ONE player that even remotely looked like they were trying to make us fail. Now there is no shortage of players that don't have a clue how to follow instructions and from time to time it truly amazes me that anyone can level a character to 50 and then even do mutliple TFs to open and slot their Alpha so they are 50 (+1) but still don't know how to search their power lists for TEMPS.

and the BAF is easier than the Lambda?

1. BAF has a cut scene that ties up every player for 1-2 minutes before they even get inside the compound. Lambda has a much shorter cut scene that takes place at the conclusion of part two of the trial and when it ends you are transported to the exit area to use your acids and attack the Av

2. BAF has two AVs that can either be pulled to one location to make battling them easier or battled seperately for a shot at a badge and added rewards. BUT at some point the BAF requires that both AVs be defeated within 30 seconds of one another or the rez at 100% health and you start all over again. the Lambda has one AV that only has to be defeated ONE time.

3. BAF requires more players to be successful. minimum is 12 but most leaders look for three full teams. Lambda can be run with 8 but normally is run with 16. Two problems arise due to this.. First it takes longer to recruit three full teams. So players spend more time standing around doing NOTHING waiting for the league to take shape. Second .. 24 players with aura,ect going creates more lag than 16 does. I stopped doing BAFS because as soon as the excapee portion began I'd lag badly and eventually crash. On a 16 man Lambda i sometimes lag and occasionally crash but no where near as often.

4. BAF has several timed sections that will cause failure if time runs out and it also has the escapee portion where if too many prisoners get away FAILED. Lambda has one timed section that if not completed you fail.. DEFEAT the AV. Sure the glowie portion is timed but even if you don't get all the granades and Acids .. the game provides more outside after Maurader arrives.. just go attack the weapons delivery spots and get what you missed.

Okay so some people don't enjoy the Lambda because it is tough on squishies... We'll lets go back to PAY ATTENTION from earlier. Sure a few people will probably wind up in hospital but IF the team stays together they can fight through the mobs, get the acids or grendaes and take out mobs around them for more IXP 9if needed). Frankly I like it because its SHORTER, takes less time to complete and less time to build a team for one 9most of the time), and doesn't have nearly the lag issues that the BAF does. Since the lag issue surfaced I have started 4 more characters on the path to tier 3/4s on all the new powers and I did it exclusively with Lambda Trials... I convert threads to IXP to open Judgement and Lore.

The new trial looks tough now but by the time it goes live the Beta Testers will have the strategies needed down cold and in a few weeks people will be posting threads about how its TOO easy we need a CHALLENGE!

LOL Yeah I do recall that happening to me as well. I was getting swamped and figured.. I'll just head downstairs and heal. I was on one knee slowly recovering when "DING" and a pile of gears sent me to the hospital. I came back and got revenge but maybe that mission needs a warning sign at the door..

ENTER AT YOUR OWN RISK Clockwork Gears know how to use elevators and will follow you to the ends of the earth. Legal fine print: Be aware that the Clockwork King and CW Enterprises INC. is not liable for any permanent damage to player's characters or personal REAL LIFE sanity when Gears suddenly follow you to another floor and continue to attempt to kill you. Enjoy the game and have a nice day.

Yeah what Organica said.. If its that important to YOU lol You go play lower levels.. Frankly I would be no help at all. 2/3 of my characters on Virtue are 50 levels and I currenly play 12 through the incarnate stuff. most of the rest ar in the mid 30 to low 40s.. and since they won't let me BUY any more slots I am not anticipating any rush of 9 or 10 levels in my near future.

Then there is the other thing that will probably drive you crazy.. I have 4 bases, 3 hero side and 1 villain, that have a series of enhancement bins stocked with hundreds of pre made IO for every level range and at least 3 to 4 salvage bins filled with a variety of stuff in case anyone is missing an item they need to craft an IO I don't have. So even if I was playing lower level characters chances are I woouldn't be running to the market to buy your stuff. Oh and with the email system being what it is now if I don't have something in one base I need I generally switch characters and check the bins in the other bases.. If its there I just Email to myself. I am NOT Market friendly at all.

HEHEHE I know I am NO HELP AT ALL... sorry

Took me a little research time on Paragon Wiki but I knew which mission you meant...

http://wiki.cohtitan.com/wiki/Template:Mission_Common_Get_a_sample_of_the_Clockw ork_pistons

Its in the 15-19 level range and you get it from Wyatt Anderson, Maggie green, Jake Montoya or Colleen Saramago. unfortunately its not part of an arc but a solo mission so you can't really access it through ouro. I have used that once or twice to get gearsmasher. until you destroy the pilke of parts in the building gears just keep spawning!

Oh Gosh there's another one I did too. It wasn't a Safeguard just a timed mission from a contact but I had to log off and figured .. Once I log the timer will stop and I can do it when I get back home. Later that night .. "WHAT DO YOU MEAN I FAILED THE MISSION?"

All true. And usually you can start the Synapse with no gear defeats at all and by the end of mission one on an 8 man team (mission one being one of MANY defeat alls) you have the badge. Its also quite possible on either the OLD POSI TF (through Ouro Flashback) or the New Posi Tf to get them even before you are high enough to do a Synapse. Oh and a gear is a gear.. Some lieutenants also spawn them when they die and while the BADGE says they have to come from a boss the gears from a lieutenant count.

And I can personally confirm that the Psychic Clockwork found in Tina McCintyre's arc in PI don't count toward the badge. I thouight they might years ago and when my progress bar didn't move I headed to Skyway and hunted them until I got the badge. I guess since those belong to an alternate dimension the don't count. The same is true of toxic Tarantuals that are part of the ROGUE group you battle in one arc in Grandville and i believe its also true of the ones in Warburg. The rogues are no longer a part of the arachnos army so for some reason THEY don't count and the ones you see in Warburg all seem to have been converted and belong to Malta. Funny they LOOK exactly the same LOL

Ummm lets not forget the lousy 2 Merits for basically defeating 8 tentacle and a head... and you can get the same 2 for taking out ONE Kraken in Perez Park. Are there any Devs looking ion on this thread? Just who came up with THAT idea?

WAIT Leo! LOL You were on a team with QUAKE N BAKE DUce and the Purple Midget Punter and you think Father Xmas was talking about Doctor Leo? hehehe now if your name had been Doctor professor Agent Leo I could see it but Doc Leo seems fine to me. Now pardon me while I go finish giggling.

The original post the OP made.. I agree but what followed included statements like "They BROKE the game" "We were on Auto Pilot" Etc. Like I stated in my previous post sure if I take an entire team of essentially 50 (+3)s with tier 3 or 4 powers in all 4 of the new slots and do a 50 level ITF we are going to destroy everything in our path without batting a eye. But it is still possible to make a challenge out of it simply by increasing difficulty or even unslotting incarnates for the TF as others mentioned. And while his first post is definately not whiny it was the OP in a later one that basically said "We weren't even really trying." "It was like we were on Auto Pilot". While not a desperate cry to NERF everything those posts do come off like .. We are getting so bored because our powers are so strong now nothing challenges us.

Some of the other posters here have all but said they were on the verge of cancelling accounts because there are no challenges left. Well DUH .. MAKE new ones! There are purples out Blasters soling giant monsters, people soloing or duoing things like the ITF, and my personal little hobby .. Soloing Pillboxes in Recluse's Victory with my Crab Spider .. oh and for the record while it's even easier now that she has tier 3 in most of the new powers and a tier 4 in judgement she was doing the same thing before incarnate powers arrived. FTR Part 2... I have not spent billions on purple recipes on her in factI I sell those off for the huge cash bonuses. Tessa is my COH female version of Tony Stark .. a hero with more cash than she has any idea what to do with.

HEHEHE So which name are we referring to X? Because I have one that will top any from that screen shot... now to semi protect the "INNOCENT" (???) I will change this SLIGHTLY. I saw this guy in the RWZ a few nights ago and then last night ended up teaming with him on a Lambda trial...

Doctor Professor Agent _____ I left out the final part but as we can see SOMEONE is obsessed with titles

{disclaimer: While no screen shots were taken to confirm the above mentioned name Wicked Wendy does swear on a stack of bibles and is willing to PINKIE SWEAR that the name above does exist in game.}

Yeah Gob is absolutely right. YEARS ago players wouldn't go near Lusca without at least two full teams and even then a lot of players hit the hospital...I personally recall one failed attempt where after numerous deaths we gave up and I left IP over 200,000 in debt. This was back before patrol XP could wipe stuff like that out in no time and i was a 20 level so I was working off debt for almost a full level.

NOW .. a single team can easily crush the giant squid and they were doing so before anyone had incarnate powers. I have seen posts here of a PURPLED out Blaster that has soloed almost every GM in game so a duo doesn't suprise me a bit.

hehehe /AGREED

I have seen a few threads like this one and my one big question is .. Have you heard of upping the difficulty? Now at times this may not be possible since you can't make every single TF leader run to a field rep and ask for +4 bad guys but I have done ITFs recently where everything we faced was level 54.

If the game has gotten TOO easy maybe you need to find ways to make it harder... not complain about getting more power. Hey here's an idea, sorry I am not a huge fan of SPEED RUNS, try not running past half the villains in every mission so you can just pound on what HAS to be destroyed to advance to the next mission. THEN while your at it up the difficulty to +4 ( I have found myself on speed runs where somehow the leader managed to set it to -1 to increase the speed.. GEE thanks my 30+ level character i was hoping to level on this loves that tactic!), and maybe even increase the number of mobs that spawn.

You might find the TF a challenge and even discover you get SHARDS, SALVAGE, RECIPES, including PURPLE ONES, and a lot more INF when you do them that way. The game has given us ways to increase the challenge if we want it. Sure if you are going to leave it set at 50 and then take an entire team of 50(+1) with tier 3 or 4 level Judgements, Lores, Destinies and Interfaces everything including the AV(s) will drop like flies. Make a choice.. Do you want it fast with a quick payoff or do you want a challenge.. with Incarnates you can have either.

BILL! now I am in tears LOL We agree so often here I suppose at some point we had to find something we didnt think alike about. Now story wise the VEAT "destined ones" leaves a lot to be desired no argument but I am more into performance than the canon behind the existance of my characters.. since i tend to create my own anyway. And about the only good thing I can say regarding the Destined One arcs is that eventually it allows me to kick Recluse's butt and then turn right around and do the same thing to Statesman. A lot of the rest seems like busy work. Rescue the seer, Steel the eye of Chronos, opps put BACK the eye of Chronos.. infect the computer. Destroy the list. And if I am a SOLDIER OF ARACHNOS why are more than half my missions against other Arachnos troops? LOL Does Recluse know just how screwed up his organization is? they seem to spend more time fighting each other than the good guys

All that aside my Crab Spider will still kick the crap out of a Kheld hehehehe

confirming Bill and i have known each just other for years and cause he likes Khelds and I like Veats doesn't mean we will be throwing tantrums at each other. The Man KNOWS way too much about this game! And i respect his opinions (okay almost all of them LOL)

Hehehe Okay I used the train but the first contact I hit in KR, as usual, tolf me I needed to talk to Dave Wincott. I didn't get any direction arrow and I must have run around for fifteen minutes or more before I finally asked where officer Wincott was and was told in the Hollows... next question.. of course.. "Where is that?"

OMG I did THAT too and even got on Broadcast and asked why is the train broken I can't get on. "Are you on the right side of the station NOOB?"