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Quote:Just the attack it is slotted in. If that attack hits, you have the % chance to get the extra damage on that hit. The extra damage will not be doubled on a critical hit.Originally Posted by squishor
So i am making my first IO build on my character and I am using some of the "chance for dmg" procs. My questions is when it says I have a 20% chance, is that on all of my attacks or just the attack it is slotted on for it to fire off? -
And saving yourself an attack is always a good thing. Unless you just like having more attacks.
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Quote:Yeah, mine kinda gets stomped by Arachnos. Is the 25% defense debuff from the Tarantula Mistresses auto hit? It sure feels that way. I go from epic to kitty cat in one hit, and I can't be burning purples at that kind of rate through a whole mission.Originally Posted by Bobitron
I just finished (this morning!) a softcapped Katana/Dark build for my scrapper, Maya the Eternal. I ended up at 52% Melee (w/ two Divine stacked), 45% Ranged, and 44% AoE.
I sacrificed all my global +Rech to get there, so there were definitely some tradeoffs. My build was based on ClawsandEffect's BS/DA one found here ( http://boards.cityofheroes.com/showthread.php?t=189427 ).
The build is very strong vs. some foes, but also pretty weak vs. others. For example, Rikti are really easy, but high difficulty Arachnos chew me up pretty good. In general, I'd avoid opponents with high Defense, Defense Debuffs, and -Recharge. I have no problems with some AV's (teamed, not solo), but Scirocco and Lord Recluse stomped me pretty badly during an STF.
I've got a whole bunch of 50's, and despite this being my most expensive level 50 melee build, I wouldn't say it's my strongest. It's partially due to a need for adjustments in my playstyle. I'm playing her a bit like a high defense toon currently, but it's really much more like a normal Dark Armor toon with a very nice extra layer of survivability. Unfortunately, I can't play it like I did pre-defcap as my overall accuracy and recharge are so far down from previous levels.
I'll have to come to a new comfortable technique at some point, but initial impression are that my Claws/SR scrapper, DM/SD scrapper, Night Widow, and SS/SR brute all deal more damage and have better and more consistent overall survivability vs. foes like Romans, Arachnos, and Nemesis, but the Katana/DA is more survivable vs. Rikti (in particular), Carnies, Malta, Crey. The damage is coming across a little lackluster compared to my other toons, though.
I don't have the problem with accuracy on mine. I fit Tactics into the build, and between it and the Kismet, I'm normally 95% against +4s, and the defense debuff from the swords takes care of anything worse fairly quickly. I also didn't sacrifice all global recharge, but at 40%, it's pretty low. I haven't really had a problem with -recharge, probably because of that and because it's hard for them to hit me with recharge debuffs.
I do think he's very strong, but definitely has a serious weakness to defense debuffs, which makes him not the toon of choice for many enemy groups. Sergei (Dark Melee/Super Reflexes) feels weaker on +4x8 groups without defense debuffs, but his performance doesn't drop in the toilet against debuffers, so he feels more solid in general, more of a jump into any group any time any where sort of toon.
But I know I need practice, which might make a lot of difference. I need to get better at timing Dark Regeneration. I need to better map out what I can and can't do, and how best to do what I can do. Heck, I need to fight Cimerorans AT ALL. Don't think I've even been there with Alexei yet. And I haven't started in on AVs.
I feel like I'm part of a tiny little club of soft-capped Sword/Darks, and that we're starting to map out what is good and bad about them. That's fun for me, even if we end up concluding that something else is better.
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Quote:Well, kinda. Although the attacks pretty much swap one for one, the best attack chains do not. So you may not end up with exactly what you need by just doing a direct swap. It'll make a good reference, but likely won't be exact. And I'm too lazy right now to look up/work out the best attack chain for single-stacked Divine Avalanche and the required recharge for each attack. Perhaps someone else will pop up with that information.Originally Posted by JimmyAISB
That build in the "What happened to all the darkies?" thread is for BS/DA would i just plug katana in there instead?
In my case at least, I wanted a practical, general-purpose build with a real travel power and passable AoE, because my AV specialists have neither. Taking Blessing of the Zephyr keeps travel powers from being a total waste, but if you were willing to go travel-powerless (perfectly viable IMHO), there *might* be something better to do with the power choice and slots. In this case, it just wasn't something I even looked at.Quote:also looking over the build now and i wouldnt mind that build without travel powers (thanks to the new booster pack), are they just really being used for IO mules?
But all of this came together for the most part before Ninja Run. I'm still happy with my choice, but I would look MUCH more carefully at travel-powerless if I were starting over today. -
Quote:Not worth it on a standard recharge build. Dull Pain and the accolades will have you almost to the hit point cap, beyond which +hp bonuses are largely wasted. They're still useful when Dull Pain is down, but you may find that to be an uncommon occurrence and not worth any build compromises.Originally Posted by Bohmfalk
Quick question for Umbral and Werner that I think fits this thread well (my main is a claws/regen). How about slotting for max health? I have several different set bonuses for that on him.
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Quote:Recharge on Dark Regeneration is huge, at least for on-paper survivability (edit: more specifically, in my spreadsheet). In practice, I would guess that Dark Regeneration already recharges so quickly that your main vulnerability is random damage spikes, not lack of healing. So in practice, I don't think the extra recharge from Hasten would make nearly as much difference as it does on paper. That's how I'm betting my own influence, anyway. Doesn't mean I'm right.Originally Posted by Iggy_Kamakaze
ok so it is the right build
Ohhh yes, I always forget about that hasten turned on and off thing.
Question though... That extra 6 seconds on DR really makes that much of a difference? I could see having hasten on a BS, but on a katana... I don't think its worthed. -
Quote:Yum. God, I would kill for one of those right now. I wouldn't leave the house and go buy one, mind you, but kill, sure.Originally Posted by Imaheroe
Thread Hijack - Asiago Cheese bagel with Jalapeno salsa cream cheese!!!!!
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Quote:I was a skinny little kid and got picked on a lot, which is probably part of why I'm now a big strong guy with a big beard and a flat top. I'm totally harmless, but if you don't know that, I don't look like someone you'd want to meet in a dark alley. Well, except that the round little Santa glasses kind of give me away.Originally Posted by Umbral
Considering all of the manly weight lifting type things you guys are apparently into consuming, I'm pretty sure you guys would be amused to see me. I actually get mistaken for a girl at least once every week or so.
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I probably have enough merit rewards to buy a couple of items of common salvage.
I almost never team, and I rarely even run arcs because I hate being "locked in" to playing something all the way through. Wait, I did run all the RWZ arcs on Alexei because I wanted the sword and the extra salvage carrying capacity, so.... 152 merits! I'm rich! I didn't even know! What wonderful things can I buy with that? Oh? Really? Oh.
But yeah, I've heard that for most people, buying Luck of the Gamblers with merits is a very good idea. (And by extension, buying them with merits and selling them on the market would also be a good idea, but this isn't the market forum.) -
Quote:Yep, Broad Sword/Dark Armor with Hasten. It'll be a little more than 25 seconds down time since some of the recharge is with Hasten itself off. I could calculate it if I weren't to lazy to bring up a spreadsheet and plug in two numbers. (Edit: Looks like a little over 31 seconds down time. Not that I'm complaining, since I don't have Hasten at all.)Originally Posted by Iggy_Kamakaze
wierd...
did I post a different build?
Hasten should be there on a 25 seconds down time though.
Can't open it up at the moment but I might have posted a different build if you don't see it there. And I think I paired it with BS, but that shouldn't matter. -
Quote:Their strawberry isn't bad either. You can almost fool yourself into thinking it's Nestle Strawberry Quick.Originally Posted by Simian_Stalker
That syntha-6 mochachino is the bomb! I add a bananna, 1 tablespoon of peanut butter or almond butter, ice and some water.
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Quote:Yeah, I go through periods of focus and periods of lazy. I'm in a lazy period right now - been sick several times recently, tired all the time (might be a problem with my CPAP). I'm trying to get back up to full effort, but my willpower is lacking. I honestly HATE working out. I just like how it makes me feel the rest of the time. Plus I hear that exercise is good for you or something. Now I'm feeling guilty for not being in there lifting heavy things like I should be. *sigh* Well, whatever motivates. Off I go. At least it isn't squats day.Originally Posted by Bill Z Bubba
Werner, I may be hitting you up for info soon. Went through a few months of hittin the weights and slamming chocolate Muscle Milk in milk. (sooo gooood. not the stuff in stores, the big vat of powder I'd mix with organic 2% milk) Felt awesome for a while, then got lazy as hell again.
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Quote:Which is probably why Umbral asked what a "reasonably large" budget meant. For some people, Luck of the Gamblers are pocket change. For others, one is their entire budget or more. I'm somewhere in the middle.Originally Posted by JamMasterJMS
Getting to 140% recharge involves LotG +recharge, which last time I checked are goin for 200 mil a pop.
Good luck with that.
And 200 million is probably the "buy it nao!" price for the crafted level 50 IOs. With patience, you can go downlevel slightly with only a tiny effect on performance, lowball recipes across a level range, and wait. I'm again somewhere in the middle, bidding on level 50 recipes and being willing to wait a week or two. Crafting costs included, I probably got mine for about an average of 90 million each. That's still not cheap in my world, but a 440 million savings across four of them for my build was worth the wait to me. -
Quote:That and lifting heavy things. As they say, those weights don't lift themselves.Originally Posted by JamMasterJMS
All those meal replacement drinks must make you buff!
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Well, I'm not a Texan, but I love your accent, and y'all can say hi to my whole family who all live in College Station and Bryan now except for me. Also: your flag rocks.
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Another good jumping off point for an AV specialist Katana/Dark is the build that Iggy just posted in the "What happend to the Darkee's" thread. It sacrifices a little AoE defense to soft cap melee with one hit of Divine Avalanche and picks up quite a bit of global recharge. It has no stun/fear aura, but you're going up against AVs, who are immune. Only problem would be that the minions you use for Dark Regeneration fuel wouldn't be stunned/feared. So maybe forgo minions altogether, and revamp the Dark Regeneration slotting for high recharge and high healing, and just spam heal off of the AV as necessary. Might be a good approach.
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I'd say it's worth taking at a low level. I'd probably spec out of it after picking up Disembowel, Head Splitter and some recharge, but it'll make leveling up easier.
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I'm, uh, not exactly a Fire expert. I think I have a level 8 Fire/Fire gathering dust somewhere. He's a fireman. OK, got it out! Ooops, there it goes again! WHY does that keep happening? (Pulse, pulse, pulse)
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Quote:My AR/Dev is "Just a big ol' bear with a gun" and my Katana/Regen is "Just a big ol' bear with a sword". My Spines/Dark is "Big hairy demon". I pulled out ALL the stops for Alexei, "Just a tattooed Russian bear with a Talsorian Katana, channeling dark energy from the Netherworld through his cutting-edge cyborg body." I guess I'll never be a novelist or role-player.Originally Posted by Nihilii
I'm very fond of "he's a warrior with a sword" as a backstory, but yours is alright too.
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Umbral has you covered on Claws/Regen. For Katana/Dark, my guess is that you'll get the best survivability out of soft-capping defense. That's the route I took. In my case, I'm neither a DPS nor AoE specialist, and built almost purely for survival and general play. I calculated 162 DPS, but am seeing 177 DPS vs. pylons, and I should probably believe in-game experience over my spreadsheet. 177 DPS is nothing special, pretty much on the low side for AV specialists. For an AV specialist, you'd drop The Lotus Drops and Sting of the Wasp and pick up Soaring Dragon and Golden Dragonfly. You might also try to get another 4% melee defense so that you don't need Divine Avalanche double-stacked so you don't spend so much time on a low DPS attack. Anyway, here's my build, which might be a good starting point. I'm still buying the last few IOs for it, so I haven't started seeing what it can do, but I have high hopes.
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I pound cafe mocha protein shakes - milk, Syntha-6 mochachino protein powder, and Macrobolic chocolate meal replacement powder. Mmmmm, tasty! If you close your eyes and try real hard, you can almost fool yourself into thinking it's some chilled coffee drink. It's almost not gross.
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Quote:As long as you don't get annoyed by the active role you need to take to stay alive (Regen clicks and Parry) and it being a school of hard knocks, Broad Sword/Regeneration should be great choice for a low to moderate number of enemies. And if it ever comes to it, you can kit it out to solo AVs with no temps or inspirations.Originally Posted by Bin Man
Thanks alot for your replies, really appreciate it. After reading that quote from BaB im positive i will go for BS / Regen. It has taken me 4 days to decide this.. (my job isn't the most thought intensive lol) so hopefully no one will come up with any more facts to sway me otherwise
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Although as Nihilii said yes, this is primarily a toon for learning the story and doing all the arcs but how well does a BS/Regen cope with soloing an AV? -
Uh... wow. I really thought I'd never see the day.
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Quote:Damage competitive with most scrappers? Sure. But not damage that makes people sit up, take notice, and say "I HAVE to get me one of those!" (You know, like Fire/Shield or Dark/Shield, which is kind of what you said, but then, that's why they're flavor of the month.Originally Posted by Moonlighter
You don't think Katana with the -Resist proc combined with the damage aura doesn't provide DPS competitive with most scrappers? I think the only two things that can significantly out perform it are sets combined with Shield's damage buff or a well slotted saturated Soul Drain.)
Yeah, I don't have Hasten on mine. I'll be interested if you can figure out getting both the soft cap and Hasten without big compromises, though.Quote:Once I cap defense I expect this character to be a beast. Not DM/Shields mind you, but what combo competes with that? My biggest challenge right now is that I can't seem to cap defense and still keep Hasten. Note that I haven't tried particularly hard because the Hasten glow would look bad on my character. It looks like I will be dropping the control auras entirely, and have a defense capped character with an excellent heal and decent resists coupled with Katana's single target and AoE capabilities.