Wavicle

I agree with all that.

I have only EVER kicked people from teams for A) being a jerk or B) going afk inside a completed mission. I will never kick someone for having a bad build.

I WILL tell them they ought to improve their build. I'll explain how and why, as politely as I can considering that I'm telling them they did it wrong.

That depends a lot on your primary doesn't it?

Is Spines or Elec really going to be able to do more ST damage by scrapping?

No, it's not arrogance. It's understanding the powersets. I didn't ONCE say that the SoA without TT:M contributes nothing. What I said was that TT:M is THE best thing it can contribute. Giving it up is just dumb.

Yes, you CAN do without it, and you CAN probably get through much of the content of the game without it, but why WOULD you? We're talking about one power that contains 75% of the SR set in itself and 2 added slots. What possible reason could anyone have for skipping it that isn't purely fanciful?

It is NOT semantic. You can RESPEC into a different epic pool, you cannot change your primary and secondary. Only Willpower Brutes can get QR, ANY Stalker CAN get Shadow Meld once they are high enough level. This is so obvious I don't see why you're arguing with it. YOU'RE CHOOSING to take BL instead, that doesn't mean SM isn't available to you, you'd just have to respec to take it.

Incarnate system >>>>>>>> Level cap increase


Why?

Because we will be able to improve our toons WITHOUT throwing out our hard earned lvl 50 IO builds.

lol, yea, I saw that too

SoAs do good damage, but not Blaster level damage.

I don't agree. MoG is up A LOT. It is useful for Many different applications, more for the Stalker than for the Scrapper. In fact MoG is the one thing about Regen that is better for Stalkers than it is for Scrappers.

Using it to get off an important AS midcombat is one of the several valid uses of the power.

It's not a nitpick dude. People like you throw around that 45% number all the time as if it's some magic number that makes everything else irrelevant. Well, it's bogus. Situational understanding of the game applies in Situations. They come up frequently. Your "Really?" is just another way of saying, "Oh, Yea?"

As for your second point: There might be more sources of team defense, but let's look at it sensibly. There aren't that many team defense buffs. Let's assume for a second that there is No Force Field toon on the team. Other team defense options include Steamy Mist and Shadow Fall. There's a few others. None have as wide an area as TT:M. Few if any are as powerful as a Crab or Bane TT:M. And No, except for Mind Link, the SoA has No buff as valuable to the team as TT:M. None.

Of course I would prefer a smart player with a bad build to a ****** with a good build. But I find playing with my coalition mates allows me to not have to make that choice. I don't PuG, pretty much ever. Specifically so I can avoid people who don't know what they're doing.

So you keep on playing your game where no power is more important than any other, where you're happy to be not merely less than optimal but in fact a drain on team resources. Meanwhile I'll be over here playing with people who understand what the term "key power" means.

Yes, there is a certain amount of fun playing it. A large part of that fun, for me and many others, is capitalizing on team synergy, especially stacking of buffs and debuffs. I expect anyone playing a Tank to stay unmezzed and keep aggro. I expect anyone playing a Blaster to do a lot of damage. I expect anyone playing Storm Summoning to drop Freezing Rain on the enemy. I expect any Controller or Dom to Hold enemies. And I expect any SoA to bring significant Defense buffing to my team.

I wouldn't kick them unless they were, as you say, a dillhole. I don't kick people for having bad builds. But I would tell them in no uncertain terms that TT:M is an essential power and I would not team with them again if I found they kept skipping it.

One last time: an SoA without TT:M is dead weight. I don't care what other powers they take as long as they do Some damage and aren't getting themselves killed, and I'm okay with them putting off TT:M as far as about 14 or 16. After that they are not filling their role if they don't have it.

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And they'd be wrong in two ways:

1. More than 45% is NOT extraneous against anything with some decent +Tohit or -Def. That includes a LARGE number of AVs and even some standard mobs especially at the higher levels.

2. Does EVERYONE on their team have 45% with just Mind Link? If Not then they SHOULD have TT:M as well.



This is seriously exactly akin to a Dom or Troller not taking their single target hold, or a scrapper not taking his highest level attack, or a Tanker not taking his Mez protection. If you don't want those powers you should have rolled a different AT.

Truly amazing.

Please don't ever team with me with your Dominator.

A GRAVITY Dom with no ST Hold. I think I pulled a muscle.

To answer your early question: YES, SoA without TT:M are contributing less and the team is worse off.

It is because of exactly this kind of confusion that people on these boards should Stop using DPS the way they do.

In most games DPS=DPA. DPS is Damage Per Second of casting time.

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I judged you not by post count or join date (although the fact that your date is what it is and you're talking to me like I don't know the sets in question does irk me a little; I have in fact played Willpower AND Regen to 50 before), but by your assessment of MoG.

Anyone who thinks the new MoG isn't worth taking doesn't understand the game.





But my other point stands: it doesn't matter how good Tough and Weave are, Boxing is still COMPLETELY WORTHLESS. You can't even use it as a mule. Essentially Tough takes 2 power slots. That's too much investment for the return in question.

Any suggestions from someone with a little more credibility?