Vitality

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  1. Is the slow resistance worth it for Regen?
  2. Vitality

    Shadow Maul

    How useful is Shadow Maul if you have the Sands of Mu bonus power?
  3. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Sensei_Dragon View Post
    Just a small problem im habing:

    In the Combat Attributes window when I look at my Regen values it is telling me
    Integration: .63% (6.34 hp/s)
    Fast Healing: .42% (4.22 hp/s)

    But when I right-click on the icons under my health and endurance bars it tells me this:
    Integration: 1.46% (14.78 hp/s)
    Fast Healing: .83% (8.45 hp/s)

    Why are the values different? Which one is the correct value?

    Thanks for your help.
    They are both correct...to a degree...

    Your combat attributes window is showing the regen that Integration adds and the regen that fast healing adds.

    When your right clicking on the icons...they are showing your regen rate with those powers added.

    Base regen rate: .41%
    Fast healing regen rate: .42% (which is what the Combat Attributes window shows)
    Integration regen rate: .63% (which is what the Combat Attributes window shows)

    Base regen + Fast healing regen rate: .83% (which is what the icon read)
    Base regen + Fast healing + integration regen rate: 1.46% (which is what the icon reads)
  4. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Megajoule View Post
    Vitality, there's this amazing thing called "imagination". Some of us have been using it for years to create characters that don't quite fit into the mechanics we're given and stories/missions that weren't just what the Devs wrote for us. (This was before AE allowed us to make our own from scratch.)

    Okay, sarcasm aside, my best advice to you, one roleplayer/writer to another: run through the required content as quick as you can and then IGNORE IT. It didn't happen. Write your own story. Put it up on one of the wikis. That is what your character, your hero, really did from 1-20.

    Don't tell me that you're compelled to accept everything the Devs say your character does. You strike me as someone much too opinionated for that.

    You have the power to decide your character's destiny and history. The official content is there to help you, not hinder you; when it conflicts with your vision, discard it. Instead of demanding that they change the game for you, change it for yourself.
    I know...and that is what I will do.

    My thinking behind suggesting this was...
    I just thought it would be great if you could...(insert my suggestion)

    So I suggested it because I thought it would be a good idea.
    Clearly I was wrong...and I will finally accept that.


    On a side note...I did not mean to troll...that was not my intention at all...I apologize to all those that I offended by "trolling"....again that was not my intentions at all. I'm sorry.
  5. I don't know...I truly thought my logic was flawless.

    I thought this suggestion would only help the game not hurt it.

    I thought this suggestion would only bring the devs more money.

    I thought this suggestion added more options for gameplay.



    I can almost understand some people saying that they would rather have the devs work on something else, as this suggestion is not important to them...but the thing is that this is important to me...what makes you more important than me...do we not pay the same subscribtion fee?

    I honestly did not think people would be outright against this idea.
  6. Quote:
    Originally Posted by DarkGob View Post
    The only thing you illustrated is that people who feel that way are hypocrites who will buy the expansion anyway.
    NO...I illustrated that adding this feature to the GR expansion can only bring the devs more profit.
  7. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Solicio View Post
    Yes it does. You've lost credibility, which is a shame, because your ideas kinda, sorta, somewhat had merit before.
    ...but how do they no longer have merit?

    ...how does suggesting that they add AT proliferation to the GR expansion lose merit because of two posts I made?

    When I said/typed this...

    "Why should I pay for GR then?

    I'm probably not going to buy GR.

    If they added AT proliferation, I would most definitely buy GR.

    As of right now, I have no use for GR."


    I did it to illustrate that some people will feel that way.
  8. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Solicio View Post
    Okay--I'll humor you. First you said:


    Then you said:


    So, you:

    1. Are a liar who doesn't think people know how to read
    2. Think that admitting that you are a liar proves a point (other than that you suck at lying and making points)
    3. Defeated the purpose of your point by admitting you already bought GR
    4. Enjoy jerking people around "haha"

    This is why he thought you were trolling. I have to agree with him. You lost your point when you said that, sorry. You had a semi-legitimate point up until then, reposting in several threads aside.

    Alright, I get your reasoning...I screwed up...but that doesn't take anything away from what I'm suggesting.
  9. Quote:
    Originally Posted by DarkGob View Post
    Which point, that trolling is easy on the internet?
    What makes my posts trolling?

    Please tell me...because trolling was not my intention at all.
  10. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Bill Z Bubba View Post
    Even better. Now the devs truly have no reason to grant your wish.
    Hey, I'm just trying to voice my opinion and offer suggestions on how the devs can make this game appeal to all players.

    It's obvious that some people do not want this feature at all...but there are still some who would like to see this feature put into the game.

    You all can crucify me for suggesting this but it will not stop me from suggesting this.

    If I think it would be worth it...If I think it would make the game better...then I'm going to suggest it.


    Edit: I purchased GR for the Dual Pistols and the new graphics.
  11. Quote:
    Originally Posted by DarkGob View Post
    So you would rather not be able to have a Brute heroside AT ALL if you can't start the Brute heroside? Now you're just being childish.

    You can have your heroside Brute with GR. Not exactly the way you want it, but that's life. Rationalize it, hope the devs change their tune, but otherwise you'll have to live with it. Stomping your feet and holding your breath isn't productive.
    Your right, it does seem childish...but I'm just trying to prove a point. (I already purchased GR haha)
  12. Quote:
    Originally Posted by CryoTech View Post
    They would have to lose more than 30 bucks before they began to panic for not including your suggestion
    I'm not saying they need to panic because I won't buy GR if they don't add it.

    I'm saying that I am proof that they will make more money on the GR expansion if they did add it.
  13. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Bill Z Bubba View Post
    There is ZERO difference between you asking for what you asked for in the OP and me asking for tough without boxing/kick.
    If you truly believe that...actually, your crazy for believing that.

    ATs are the heart and soul of this game...Tough is just a power pool power.

    To say those are exactly the same thing is beyond ridiculous.
  14. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Seldom View Post
    I'm fairly certain the devs datamine what gets used or not. I'm pretty sure they can see what gets used, and what doesn't, with a hope that new development stuff gets used. What we're seeing is the developers putting in place a pathway that leads through new stuff. With these channels in place, they can both pull the numbers to justify expenditures, and use those channels to gauge the success of their new sparky. Do these points not make sense?

    On the story end, there have not been heroic brutes until now. Primal earth is a world where certain types of heroes and villains exist, but they don't occur on other sides of the fence. The new stuff is in a new situation, one that allows the characters to make new choices. This bypasses the 'why didn't I do this before?' thing, as the developments in Praetoria and the changes associated with them had not taken place. They are linking new changes in the game to the new development in the lore. As such, to make new choices, your character has to participate in the story they've put in place for them. This latter point I have had qualms with. My villain, for instance, was a lone character who was never (and will never) be associated with Arachnos. Yet in the game she had to register with them, work for them, have them be her patron, and only then find a way to defeat them and be free. You are playing in their world, and they make design choices to help you participate in the lore they have put in place.
    Ok...your good point brings me to my next point.

    Why should I pay for GR then?

    I'm probably not going to buy GR.

    If they added AT proliferation, I would most definitely buy GR.

    As of right now, I have no use for GR.



    Do you see how adding this feature would make the devs more money?
  15. Quote:
    Originally Posted by The Hound View Post
    Just to say, I am also /unsigned with this. I'll give you my reason.

    Sure, AT proliferation would be neat, and that's exactly why GR is coming to us players. But let's just take a step back and look at what would happen if we had AT proliferation straight away, shall we? Praetoria and all her shiny zones would become somewhat... empty and redundant, the moral changing missions would actually have NO POINT AT ALL to even exist. You say that people would still be able to side switch through the Moral Missions, but what would be the point when I could easily and with alot more haste just log out, remake my character, and log back in on the opposite side? I have just managed to side-switch without doing the Moral Missions. Tough if you have an RP concept but don't want to start in Praetoria with it, that's the way it is going to be.
    So, your basicallly saying that no one is getting GR for the actual storyline. That everyone is basically purchasing GR just to get a certain AT on a certain side.
  16. Quote:
    Originally Posted by FitzSimmons View Post
    GR is a paid expansion. People will pay to be able to side switch (or to see Praetoria). If they give you that outside of GR by proliferating the powersets then it nullifies a pretty substantial part of what GR is about.

    Why would they do that?
    I suggested that they add the proliferation as part of the GR expansion.
  17. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Aett_Thorn View Post
    Too bad? We all have to RP some things in this game that it doesn't let us do. I have had to RP my namesake character as a hero because there were no villains when the game came out, then no Ice/Ice Brutes when villains did come out. I can FINALLY return him to his actual side once GR comes out.

    I have characters that I have to RP certain aspects for because the game just doesn't allow them to exist otherwise, within the context of the game.

    You will be able to do what you want. You may have to RP some of the first levels away, like the rest of us have all had to do at one point of another.

    It makes NO business sense for the Devs to do what you are asking at this point of GR's development.
    How does it make "NO business sense"?

    They wouldn't lose any money...if anything, they would be getting more money.
  18. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Aett_Thorn View Post
    I am both against this, and I will be playing GR for more than the ability to bring an AT to the other side.
    Alright...I can respect that...but why are you against adding AT proliferation to the GR expansion?
  19. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Sharker_Quint View Post
    the reasons make plenty of sense. it just the thickness of your cranium that is making it difficult for you to understand.

    YOU DO NOT have to start out as just a vill or hero. you can start out as a neutral faction in preatoria. it is that simple. then you chose your path. so that brute you want to be a hero can be. and he doesn't have to be labled vill first. remember that not all heroes started either vill or hero, they made choices which side to be on, which is what the devs are giving us.
    ...but you still have to start in praetoria.

    I understand that most players could care less...but there are some, including myself, who do care.

    That's why I said my suggestion is a win-win.

    For those who didn't care to begin with...well...they still don't care.

    For those who do care...this makes them happy.

    For the devs...they still get paid.


    So it's actually a win-win-win situation.
  20. I will post this again to reiterate...

    If you are against this...no matter who you are...

    Then your basically saying that you and everyone else will ONLY be playing the GR content JUST to get a certain AT to the other side...which is saying that no one really wants to play the GR content to begin with.

    I personally believe that people would still play the GR content even if you proliferated the ATs.
  21. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Seldom View Post
    Sir, many people have explained with multiple reasons why the developers have made the decision they seem to have made. The post you quote restates you position while not dealing with the reasons others have brought up why things have taken the course they have. If you won't see things from another point of view, what is the point of starting a discussion on the topic?
    I understand that...my point is that the "reasons" make no sense given the suggestion to add this proliferation to the GR expansion.
  22. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Bill Z Bubba View Post
    Way to avoid the most common response: It's a waste of resources.

    It's no different than stating that the devs should change the way you get Vanguard costume pieces.

    Why? You get them with merits. That's how you get them.

    In exactly the same way, you get a brute hero side with the two options given to you to do so.
    Your comparison is absurd.

    You get Vanguard costume pieces with merits, yes, but you get the vanguard costume piece merits by joining vanguard and running vanguard mission. That makes perfect sense...because you shouldnt be able to get vanguard costume pieces without being a member.

    To force a backstory on our character in order to play a certain AT on a certain side is not the same thing at all.
  23. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Eiko-chan View Post
    Customers don't want to see your new stuff? Fine, let them linger in the old crap, if that's what they want. Customers not seeing your new stuff isn't going to hurt your business, because it's not like you're trying to take the old stuff away.

    Every argument against this idea is based on a nonsensical stance of "people have to see the new stuff, end of story". That's not sound business, nor a reasonable stance to hold on any issue, business or no.

    You tie the idea to buying the expansion and all arguments against the idea vanish immediately. There is no reason not to do this.
    I think everyone needs to actually read this post.

    There is no reason not to do this.

    It's a win-win situation.
  24. Quote:
    Originally Posted by SadronMeldir View Post
    ...because when I posted those we didn't have that much info.

    ...because this is something I feel strong about...this is one thing I extremely want.


    ...because there is no reason not to do this and I'm trying to find out why it's not being done.
  25. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Bill Z Bubba View Post
    Way to avoid the most common response: It's a waste of resources.

    It's no different than stating that the devs should change the way you get Vanguard costume pieces.

    Why? You get them with merits. That's how you get them.

    In exactly the same way, you get a brute hero side with the two options given to you to do so.
    Please explain how "It's a waste of resources"