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  1. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Nericus View Post
    Heh. Makes one wonder how many times the bean counters and corporate bigwigs that let Lucas keep the rights to Star Wars were beating themselves over the head with a blunt object over their underestimation of the popularity explosion that occurred.
    hey at least Fox got something out of the deal. think about the studios that completely shot Lucas down about his "space movie". most of those folks are probably janitors by now.
  2. Quote:
    Originally Posted by NinjaPirate View Post
    It's actually a pretty well known phenomena. People do often CLAIM they want "new and different", but the reality is they really want "more of the same".
    yes, but in the case of Indiana Jones, the folks making the movie are trying to pull a bait and switch. "Hey, this has Indy's name in the title! Did you like his other movies! Well then we're calling this one 'Indy and the macguffin' to get you to watch THIS movie!" and then proceeded to try and use it as a jumping board for a new character.
  3. who cares if it's "dead" or not? as long as you can still play games on whatever platform you like, who gives a flying frak?
  4. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Golden Girl View Post
    Although this is a total failure of an idea, it doesn't actually matter that much in the bigger picture - Superman has grown way beyond comics and become a genuine icon all around the world.
    He's been around for several generations now, and his story and its mythology is already set in stone - at this point, it really doesn't matter what DC does to him, or even if they totally stopped making Superman comics or killed him off - the last son of Krypton doesn't actually belong to them anymore.
    depending on how the court rules in the next couple of years, it wont belong to them, it'll belong to the siegel & shuster estates. also, this isn't the first time they've gone back to the roots and retold his origin story. but you're right (for once. ) in that there are certain immutable facts that make Superman/Clark Kent who he is and that no matter how much someone might try, those will never change.

    of course, that has absolutely nothing to do with the article that idiot wrote. ive seen that same article referenced a couple other times since i first read it, im looking forward to getting my hands on the GN on Thursday and seeing how wrong that frakhat really is.
  5. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Jet_Boy View Post
    Sweet Jesus, will it never end?

    Well, at least it's only a one-shot hardcover. That'll hopefully kill the concept before it spreads...
    actually this is the first of a series of such planned stories. there's also supposed to be an Earth One Batman coming out next year. i dont remember or know if anyone's been assigned to work on it yet, but as long as it isn't Frank Miller or Grant Morrison, i think it'll be worth it. The idea is that one such GN will come out every six months or so. So that they can tell a single story without having it be broken up into arcs, i actually dig the concept. also 20$ for 136 pages (no ads, IIRC) isn't too bad a price.
  6. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Nericus View Post
    For all that say Mutt is not Indiana Jones, you are right. He's not Indiana Jones, he's the son of Indiana Jones.
    that's always been one of the things that irks me. okay, sure, Shia's an alright dude and ive liked a couple of his other flicks. but for some reason i just can't see him as the 'son of Indiana Jones'. Indiana Jones, a guy so cool the ONLY man that could possibly be his father was James Bond, so we go on down the line and we get... uhm... Even Stevens? no. just... no.

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    The questions comes down to these options:

    1. Should the franchise just stop, except for books and games?
    2. Should they pass the torch to his son?
    3. Should they recast Indiana Jones like MGM does with James Bond?
    1)this is the grognard in me talking, but if it means we stop getting movies like KotCS, then yes. stop now.
    2)most of the fun in the franchise is in the pulp feel of the movie, a feeling they failed to recapture with their latest outing, and one i dont see them being able to run with using just Mutt. worse, is that he'll NEVER be his own character, my gripes aside, he's always going to be "the son of Indiana Jones" as far as any future movies go.
    3)not with George and Stephen at the helm. can someone else do a good IJ movie? yes, i just don't know if i want someone else to do it, and unlike with the various franchises where they've switched actors in the main role, i think it's too early to just change the lead and NOT find it too jarring to enjoy a reboot of the series. maybe 10 or 20 years down the line, but not right now.
  7. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Durakken View Post
    It's pretty hard to be brooding when you wear the literal symbol of hope in your origin's planet's language.
    of course it helps if you understand what the symbol means in the first place, or that this time around that's actually what it means. and of course, a personal gripe, ive never liked that particular explanation about the "S" shield. i've always been fond of John Byrne's idea. That Pa and Clark thought it up after Lois wrote the article naming him Superman in the first place.
  8. Quote:
    Originally Posted by ThePill View Post
    When JMS's current track record includes the Spider-man retcon of Gwen having a relationship with Norman and then having babies that just happened to be speed aged to the same age as Peter. Also, creating the Spider totem idea, but not being willing to expand on it to it's most absurd extreme, other than hint at the supposed connections.

    Yeah... I'm more than a little wary about this.
    *shrug* editorial meddling. it's one of the reasons he eventually left the book. those kids were originally supposed to be Pete and Gwen's, but Joephisto thought Peter having sex, with his girlfriend... during the 1960s.... was unpossible, and thought it made much more sense that Gwen boned Norman instead... not one of the better moments, but im not blaming JMS.

    also, i guess im one of like ten fans who thought the totem concept was probably one of the more original ideas to go through the comic in some time. But that's me.
  9. Quote:
    Originally Posted by CaptainFoamerang View Post
    I thought Marvel already ripped off Blackest Night with all that vampire garbage? o.O
    a couple of times, but hey, what's one more shot at the well? it can't be any worse than Red Hulk or more disappointing than ... most of Marvel's event books have been lately.
  10. Quote:
    Originally Posted by RemusShepherd View Post
    What's this about 'might'? We know there's going to be one. We always knew there was going to be one. Lucas has always had a story idea for that time period, and it's a guaranteed money maker, so it's going to happen no matter how much fans moan or Lucas drags his feet. This is fated. It's so fated, I'm pretty sure the release date was inscribed on the Mayan calendar somewhere.
    the question isnt whether or not he would make 3 more Star Wars movies given the chance. but whether or not he'll be able to. George will be turning 68 before the 1st of the SW3D movies hits theaters, and then each one will be released 1 a year until all 6 are out. meaning he'll be 73 years old before any real production work begins on a new trilogy. i bring this up because given how involved he's been with the other movies, he probably won't be devoting full time resources to another trilogy until the first 6 are 3-D'd up and ready to go, which will be a pretty time consuming process. then there's the actual production time and planning time involved in getting 3 more Star Wars movies up and running.

    He's also said at some point he wants a 5th and 6th Indy movie to happen. So THOSE need to be done at some point as well. Dude's already on the olden side, so unless he realizes he CANT do it all on his own and delegates to others (in which case, there is the possibility of awesome as much as true suck) i just don't see a new trilogy happening. i doubt they'll even push out another Indy movie.
  11. ah, the great comprehension fail. im looking forward to this since it's being written by JMS. reading the article makes me wonder if the moron even actually read the graphic novel, or he's yapping his trap with the few preview pages he's been able to see online? the art looks decent and the idea is to build superman from the ground up. but instead of releasing it over a period of months, one issue at a time, they're releasing the whole story in a graphic novel format.

    so, howsabout before we whine doom, we go and read the book? mmm k?
  12. an entire trilogy of Star Wars movies that look like the trailers to The Old Republic?
  13. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Chotic_Blue View Post
    Actually, if I remember correctly He considers all of the EU to be little more then fan fiction. If it isn't done have the Lucasfilms logo somewhere, then it isn't cannon.
    and yet will meddle with it directly because he doesn't want the people who read the "fanfiction" to confuse what's going on in the books with what goes on in his movies. because people who read books are far more easily confused than people who just watch movies... i guess...
  14. looks about right, though anything labeled Last Rites i wouldnt read until after reading Batman RIP since i think LR takes place afterwards, but before Final Crisis.
  15. never happening, at least not with Lucas calling the shots. the man's already coming close to 70, he's not gonna... oh, someone else already said this. well then...i give you this cute kitten picture.
  16. may as well disregard Countdown to FC almost entirely. as Haz already pointed out, not only does Grant Morrison ignore the series when he writes Final Crisis, but it's just frakking horrible and only gets worse as it goes on. a better set up for what goes on in Final Crisis is the Seven Soldiers of Victory series. it helps make some of what happens in FC make some piece of sense.

    in terms of continuity, Final Crisis comes after RIP and Last Rites, and the Countdown happens more or less at the same time as the two Batman stories. also, the way i understand it, Batman Confidential is the new version of Legends of the Dark Knight. meant to tell stories that happen whenever during Bruce's history as Batman. so with a different team on each arc, quality is going to vary from one arc to the next.
  17. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Teldon View Post
    Add me into the group that never saw it before as well. Why they cut that is beyond me. It explained so much.
    because Lucas wanted the initial narration of the movie to follow through the POV of the droids, and wanted the characters to be introduced to the audience through the droids. it wasn't a bad choice, and it's always interesting to see what could have been. for folks who might be interested in a far more expanded version of A New Hope, check out the NPR Radio Dramas. New Hope and Empire were fantastic!
  18. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Haggard4Life View Post
    Actually, Cobra Commander was originally a candidate for this election. Unfortunately, he had to withdraw when rumors surfaced that he had an affair with Lady Jaye. He even held a press conference to announce the end of his campaign and clamed he plans to spend more time with Baroness and his henchmen.
    pfft, this is the future baby. in the 30th century we elect pornstars... you realize who it is underneath that Cobra Commander mask right?

  19. Bah... this election is undemocratic. where is our spot for a write in candidate. vote COBRA!!!! *hisssssss*
  20. Veritech

    Invincible

    it's a solid story. ive got the 1st Ultimate volume and have a few issues here and there. im going to buy the other volumes as i get the cash. they do tend to be a bit on the expensive side.
  21. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Ad Astra View Post
    Seriously, I've been a LSH fan for years and missed this rebooting. Thanks for the heads-up, H4L!
    well... technically it wasn't really much of a reboot. it's brought back the original Legion, but with rewrites and ignoring everything that happened between Crisis and Zero Hour...

    okay, it's a reboot.
  22. Most of those look pretty cool. Though to me Thor looks more like a techno version drawn by Jack Kirby, Wolverine's is just bleh. But Tron variant covers is not "doing something", it's just letting artists draw variants that Marvel is gonna choke the retailers for so they can charge stupid amounts of money for a comic.

    Much as i would hope that Disney buying Marvel will lead to something worthwhile, apparently the only thing it's done so far is letting the marketing tools be bigger ******* to retailers. *grumble*
  23. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Hazmatter View Post
    I've been following the new series... it's essentially the Pre-Crisis version of the team, all grown up as shown in some recent JLA/Superman stories and the Legion of Three Worlds mini. The United Planets are recovering from widespread xenophobia on Earth, formerly spurred on by Nemesis Kid (now calling himself Earth Man). Though I do believe they added Gates from the post-Zero Hour version of the team to the lineup...
    Yup, Gates stuck around to repair the image of this Legion and to provide some non-mammalian perspective while his Legion is out there hoping through the multiverse (since that Legion's universe was destroyed). And the threeboot guys have been relegated to "ignore" and watching over Superboy-Prime.

    I still love the Legion, always have. But i almost wish theyd gone through with another reboot. Almost.

    Voted Cosmic Boy, because you can never trust a Durlan!
  24. Would i? no. Will someone else? of course they will. so long as they stay the **** over there and don't try to tell me that it's "Indiana Jones" then we should get along just fine.
  25. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Golden Girl View Post
    I think superheroes on TV are much more flexible than in movies - like you can have a whole season of shows, which means you don't have to try squeezing in as many popular villains as possible into a 2 hour movie, and can spend more time of important parts of the characters' backgrounds and general universe lore - plus, crossovers are way easier to do too.
    not so much actually. while TV shows definitely get the time factor on their sides, movies have budgets that most TV shows would die for. even if they took a decent budget for one movie and divided it up for an entire season of a show, it's still more than most TV shows could ever hope to get. (and sadly like some movies, the more popular shows end up spending most of that budget on their actors.) also, depending on who makes the show, sometimes it isn't as easy to get certain characters as one might like. using Smallville as an example, it was mentioned at one point they wanted to bring Bruce Wayne or Wonder Woman onto the show at one point, but they weren't allowed because WB was busy focusing on building movie franchises for the two of them. also, in the case of recurring villains, you have to make sure you've secured the same actor you cast the first time around for if you need to use them later in the season. TV shows can be just as big, perhaps even bigger headaches than movies.

    At least if a movie is bad, it's usually a one and done sort of thing. If a TV show is bad, it gets dragged out with several poor episodes before getting to a single good one, or canceled before any of the stories can really be fleshed out and finished up.