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I read your Brute thread and found it quite entertaining.
It was an enjoyable read and I dig your costume.

I'm sorry. Please indulge this one cheap shot.

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lol your shivian must post on his shivian forums about all the AVs hes solod and everyone tells him naaaa you had an ultimus pet out thats not fair

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I gathered this from reading the thread
1.) Shivan offsets AV regen by doing huge amounts of damage
2.) Your brute tanks it out untill his Fury allows him to do astronomical amounts of damage
3.) Your toon has been specially bred for it with the help of higher level toons with accolades not normally available at those levels.

In those circumstances I do believe it is possible, but those circumstances will not occur for 99.9% of charecters in the game.

Since this is only possible for less than 1% of toons in the game the concern over trials and TF's being milked for rare recipes in unfounded, exagerrated, and generally a nonissue.

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The accolades I got on my own without the help. They really don't make that much of a difference either. Force of Nature will get you killed against an AV.

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No I haven't read your Tank/Brute threads.

But there is an astronomical leap between a tank/brute doing it and anybody being able to do it.

If you would be soo kind as to provide a link to your threads I would be happy to indulge your invitation to read them.

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Well my Tanker thread was removed when boards got purged but my Brute thread is there. My tanker was Stone/SS I still do have the screenshots though.

Brute thread

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I'm sorry, but I DO NOT BELIEVE anyone who says they can solo AVs with anything but specialized builds, level 50's exemped down slotted with HO's, and a mammoth tray full of inspirations.

The bump to the AV regen rate alone has made the DPS requirement on the player out of the realm of possibility for most builds.

Brutes have an easier time than most, but I can't see a Blaster/Defender/Stalker accomplish it.

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Have you seen my Tanker and Brute threads?

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I don't mind that he can solo trials and TFs. I don't mind that he likes to brag about it. I mind when he comes around and tries to get the drop rate for the rest of us nerfed because if everyone has access to rare recipes it'll make him feel less 'special'.

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I could understand your resentment if inventions were live but they aren't. The developers have stated the drop rates will get tweaked and I am trying to point out an early flaw.

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Ya see, this is the guy who constantly brags about soloing AVs and such. All he is determined to do is to get other people nerfed.

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Let him brag. He apperently needs to live vicariasly through these in game accompilishments. I don't have a LOT of faith in the devs, but i don't think they'll nerf whole power sets because one dude with no life can solo everything. They only do that when ALOT of people can, and belive me, if alot of people are doing it, they know, without us having to "show" them. This guy isn't going to cause squat to get nerfed. If any of his powersets do get nerfed, it'll be because the set themselves are accually overpowered, and this guy was just exploiting that.

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It isn't about getting power sets nerfed I already stated I can do this with nearly any character combination/archetype.

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Here's another suggestion to prevent farming:

Limit Trials/TF awards to once per 24 hours similar to how the Recluse Strike Force functions. This would prevent people from farming these solo.

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Dude, what the hell.

Go screw up some other game.

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Screw over another game? Inventions aren't even live if they made it so that invention rewards were only given in TF/Trial once a day how would that be different where now they are given 0 times a day?

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Does that 30-40 minutes include the time it took you to get Shivan's and/or nukes? If not, how long do you spend in prep time before each of these solo runs?

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Actually Castle, i have to own up to doing similiar types of things. I soloed every single TF for the task force commander accolade with my Heroes. The missions would spawn small amounts, and be easy to complete. The only trouble i had was with babbage, in which a simple call in bcast took care off. For any really hard AV's i could just have my other account loaded in, or a friend show up to the fight, and the AV's would be reletively easy.

1 Brute can deystroy and AV when his fury bar is all the way up, and he has a buffer on the side. I think nukes and shivans would make it possible. Keep in mind shivans take about 10-15 min prep time. Not all that much.

I think they are overpowered and should be nerfed significantly. but thats just me.

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Just looking at what you've said here.....

How long does it take you find enough slugs to join your team/get in zone/explain how they will be kicked at the start of the TF?

How long does it take people to show up when Babbage is too much for you? (My 4 or 5 man team recently took about 10 minutes to get enough pickup/broadcast people on him to start dropping his health. They weren't enough, even with about a dozen of them, until somebody dropped to get their 50 rad controller.)

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Well Babbage is completely skippable (Not sure why the person even bothered to kill him) and to create a team to start it really only takes a minute. (At least on Freedom)

Here's another suggestion to prevent farming:

Limit Trials/TF awards to once per 24 hours similar to how the Recluse Strike Force functions. This would prevent people from farming these solo.

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Shivans don't have - regen ?

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Nope. I thought, against documentation, that they did, but after more careful testing, they do not seem to have -regen. They only appear to have -regen because they do as much damage as some AVs regenerate, which as far as a player trying to solo an AV is concerned, is basically the same thing.

I tested for this *very* carefully. If it has -regen, its some weird -regen that disappears under my testing conditions.

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They don't have -Regen you can even check it out at City of Data. Those statistics are straight from developer spreadsheets.

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And Pie.

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Hey. He's good, but pie good?

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Soloing trials in 32 minutes and you don't think that's worth pie?

Your standards are HARSH!

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Well it is, but one doesn't publicly talk about it.

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Well it should be talked about if certain "Rare" drops are coming from these Trials/StrikeForces (And supposely the best ones). The developers already stated they want to avoid farming and here is one of the easiest loop holes.

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Does that 30-40 minutes include the time it took you to get Shivan's and/or nukes? If not, how long do you spend in prep time before each of these solo runs?

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Actually Castle, i have to own up to doing similiar types of things. I soloed every single TF for the task force commander accolade with my Heroes. The missions would spawn small amounts, and be easy to complete. The only trouble i had was with babbage, in which a simple call in bcast took care off. For any really hard AV's i could just have my other account loaded in, or a friend show up to the fight, and the AV's would be reletively easy.

1 Brute can deystroy and AV when his fury bar is all the way up, and he has a buffer on the side. I think nukes and shivans would make it possible. Keep in mind shivans take about 10-15 min prep time. Not all that much.

I think they are overpowered and should be nerfed significantly. but thats just me.

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Shivans also have 5 charges.

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There are a dozen builds more adept at soloing super regen scrappers (heroes/avs) than the fire/fire brute, especially when teamed with a shivan.

Anyway, shivans only take 5-8 minutes to get unless someone is actively trying to prevent you from doing so.

Basically any AV that present its challenge via damage delt (clockwork king, a tree thing that shoots invisible thorns, marauder, numina, etc) are NOT going to offer much of a challenge to someone who knows how to pop purple inspirations and drop a shivan.

The AVs that do debuffing, pop tier-9s, have usually unresisted controls, or summon pets (positron/anti-matter, valkyre, malaise (cov version), woodsman) are MUCH more team "friendly". as they require active teamwork (or atleast a wider variety of powers) to efficiently take down.

I feel If the devs are truely afriad of people soloing AVs (and thus most trials), outside of shaking the balance of the non-AV encounters by nerfing fire/fire brutes (ha), or purple inspirations.

They either need rebalance ALL of the taskforce encounters and grant AVs/Monsters tier-9s, fear powers to scatter pets, etc - which would probably be a nightmare

Or, make shivans/nukes team content (e.g. granting the shivan summon for defeating a shivan GM, etc), so people have to decide where they want to put their effort - teaming through a trial, or teaming through some mixed pvp content

A third, comedy option would be to sprinkle a few "click 3 glowies at the same time" objectives through the missions.

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Yeah the ones that pop Tier 9's are fairly hard.

Positron Hero was a pain (And he doesn't appear in regular SF/Trials... exception Recluse) and so was Ghost Widow.

Thorn Tree AV is pretty easy and so are most of the AV's in Sf/Trial.

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All they even need to do is nerf Shivan's debuffing abilities and vola it's fixed.

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Shivans have no debuffing abilities outside of a minor -Def on their attacks. Contrary to belief, they DO NOT have -regen.

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Does that 30-40 minutes include the time it took you to get Shivan's and/or nukes? If not, how long do you spend in prep time before each of these solo runs?

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A Shivan takes me about 10 minutes to get. That also comes with 5 charges or 5 runs. Additionally, I VERY RARELY use nukes. (They do take a lot of time)

The COV respec Trial I beat with just a Shivan. Same with the 25-30 Strikeforce (Renault)

Honestly, the only AV's/Heroes I've had to use nukes on was Ghost Widow so far in COV. None of the SF/Trials have AV's that me and a Shivan cannot beat.

NOTE: I am on Freedom server too if that matters. Not sure if that matters.

Edit: So if you want to factor in time to get a Shivan:

5 Charges takes 10 minutes to get which equal to 5 Strikforce/Trial runs. 10/5 = 2 minutes.

Approximately Time + 2 minutes it takes. So it takes me less then 30 minutes + 2 to complete a SF/Trial.

And we are planning on attaching rares to these trials? My complaint about attaching these things to them (As Brainstorm said) is that I can complete these things WAY faster then any team can. I did in fact solo the City of Villains COV respec trial with my Brute in less then 25 minutes. (I think it was just a little over 19 minutes) Other SFs I've all soloed in COV in less then 30-40 minutes.

Ultimately, this means that if any of these Trials/TFs have rare recipes/salvage it will become VERY common by farmers. All a person needs is either a couple friends or dummy accounts to start the SF/Trial. Remember, Brainstorm also said that there is no specific enhancers tied to a SF/Trial. This means pick the easiest one and farm it with a single character.

I hate to say it but this means we need to either buff Arch Villains where they cannot be soloed anymore or limit Shivans/Nukes to PVP zones.

It may have been just a moderator... Super Mod?

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ok.. maybe asking Statesman about it on the WarCry site will get a response?

here's my post (opens in new page)

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Actually they've said they'll look at the suggestions forum closer for ideas on new powersets.

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Still can't hurt to make some posts there and try to get some acknowledgement?

"Yes, we saw that idea and we liked it"
"That is a cool idea but our engine cannot handle it"
"We hate that idea"

Although the last two responses I would hope wouldn't happen hehe.

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Yes but you don't want a situation that allows people to spam high powered attacks or buffs that are game breaking while at the same time we also don't want 10-25 minute timers on powers as has been suggested, how much longer the added recharge time would be is debatable since if you take Energy Melee for example, both Total Focus and Energy Transfer even without Recharge Reduction Enhancements in them are up relatively quickly for their power.

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That all depends on the extremes. If someone dedicates half their points (at level 50) to recharge timing (resulting in a power that's not especially strong) it should be somewhere within one minute, I'd say. Conversely someone who has put NO recharge points into the attack should only have it every 20 minutes or so. It's a fine balancing act, but I think it can be managed with the right amount of testing.

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Thats why in my original post I stated there would be a cap on how many points could be spent on an attribute. It would prevent things like a mag 30 hold among other stuff.

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lol. Nope, I don't work for NCSoft or Cryptic(although NCSoft has my resume(hint, hint, ) Currently, I work for the US military as a contractor. Was just being a bit nostalgic.

Yes, I did just register. Usually I just lurk

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Oh cool, my mistake though

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A red-name? Even if he works for the McDonald's regional headquarters in Boise?

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Yeah he didn't work for them

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Hmm...lemme think...I've played:

Numerous MUD's and MUSH's(even wrote a specialized client for ATS TrekMUSH)
Neverwinter Nights(not really an MMO, but more of bridge between MUD/MMO)
Air Warrior
Air Warrior II
Air Warrior III
Ultima Online(beta and live)
Everquest
Anarchy Online(beta and live)
Eve Online
Planetside
Star Wars Galaxies
Earth and Beyond Online(beta)
CoH/CoV
DDO
Matrix Online

Think that's most of 'em

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Wow hello there! Did you register just for this post?

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Server/Network Engineer/Admin

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Know thine enemy. Plus inspite of being the root of all evil and injustice WoW has many positive experiences that I can understand any Dev wanting to sample so as to increase his/her own personal "gaming experience" palette.

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Especially the folks in the art and animation department(s). Eh?

I won't pay $20 + $40 expansion + $15/month subscription to play WoW as a game--one grind is enough, thank you. But here's the paradox: I'll waste hours and hours watching WoW videos and machinima on YouTube.

Because it's purrrty.

(With one exception: "You call that a cape?")

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Really? When I first played it I wanted to take a gun to whoever designed the male models. I have totally jacked friends, and NONE of them look like that. Those guys arms are frggin HUGEANTIC. Like, I can crush your face with my forearm hugeantic.

And also, I gotta say:

They ride in single file to hide their numbers.

(I think)

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Warlock player? And yes I dislike how the humans look in World of Warcraft too. Being an old school Everquest player, I dislike how just about all the World of Warcraft races look like.

The only races I can stand are:

1) Undead, my favorite race and the one I play.

2) Gnomes, I'd never play one but they are good for entertainment value. I laugh when I see them. Plus they were fun to punt.

3) Blood Elves I enjoy because they remind me of High Elves from Everquest. I am glad they are part of the Horde.

4) Dwarves I enjoy them too. Although some have the ugliest faces.

Races I hate:

1) The Tri-Horde on Kalimdor (People that Alpha Tested know what I mean by Tri-Horde). For those that don't, Trolls, Orcs, and Tauren. All of these races just look dumb and too primitive. Trolls look the stupidest in my opinion. I hate being allied with these guys. I would go insane if we didn't get Blood Elves.

2) Humans, reason mentioned by above poster.

3) Night Elves, just look at them, they scream noob or cyber for some reason.

Neutral Race

Draenei I haven't decided if I think they are cool or not.

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i'm surprised to see so many devs playing WoW... aren't they the enemy?

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To know your Enemy, you must become your Enemy.

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That and the fact World of Warcraft is a decent game in itself. I know some people here dislike it but it is still overall a very good game.

Thats pretty cool. I wonder if I ever played with any of you guys in Everquest or Ultima Online. It feels like such a small world

Anyone know if any of the developers or community managers played MMORPGs before City of Heroes/Villains? Like maybe some of them played Everquest or Ultima Online back in the day.