Tyger

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And heck, I did Psychology in college and can't remember the difference!)

[/ QUOTE ]Psychology is understanding how the mind works, Psychiatry is figuring out the why.. well, something like that anyway.

One of my super characters is a part-time psychologist. As a super herself she's very understanding.

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No I don't think it was a prank either (more the fool me if it turns out it was).

[/ QUOTE ]Well I ain't laughing. It seems to be several of the key figures of the Council of X which have been targetted, mostly the vampiric and the wolfian.

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Hell, alot of characters are near rip-offs of existing supers as well! And the "RP-police" didn't react on that.

[/ QUOTE ]And the user-talk reflects that. No punctuation, commas, every, other, word, l33tsp34k.

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Without pointing out mistakes, and where improvements should be made, those mistakes continue to be made, the n00bs stay n00bs, and the role playing stagnates.

[/ QUOTE ]...which is something that could be resolved with private messages both on the forum and in-game.

All stunts like this do is provide a reason AGAINST elitism.

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Thankyou, that was what it was, weird they hav'nt fixed it though eh?

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its a base/sg problem so places it very low on the priority list somewhere between what loo roll to use in there toilets and is the sky blue enuff in the game

[/ QUOTE ]Actually there's a dedicated team fixing bases as we speak. Verbally confirmed by Positron as part of the investement by NCSoft.

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yeah i had sg mode on and ive got the one on the ship but i didnt get the beacon n dont know why

[/ QUOTE ]I believe the War zone is still listed as Crash Site to some but it leads to the same place.

Or, as said, run all the other spots again in SG mode so you know.

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I left the game a few months ago and returned today again and noticed that I no longer can access my base. It's a starter's grid and I never had to pay rent for it, now I cannot access the base and it states that I have to pay rent. Yet when I go to the registry there's nothing to pay (the standard "you already paid your rent bla bla" message pops up). So how can I gain access to my base again?

[/ QUOTE ]Give it about 24 hours or a morning server reset. If it's not back then /petition it (don't /bug it).

After a certain period of inactivity even the free base will shut down and eventually close off. It's probably some space or bandwidth-saving technique they use to conserve resources.

I went back to my US home server to find my base there had lost all power. I logged in the following day and everything was back to normal. The restoration is not always immediate.

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Ahhh but the same happened to Green Arrow

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Yeah, but Green Arrow actually DID die in that explosion! It was just a heart sick Hal Jordan as The Spectre who plucked him back from an earlier time and recreated his body. Know anyone that powerful in game who's looking out for Britanic?

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And maybe I shoud PM the Devs to ask about the Back Alley Brawler involvement. But which Dev should I contact best ?

[/ QUOTE ]Short answer would be none of them.

Long answer: Most won't answer or will simply say no. The concerns they have will be if they say yes it will probably open a floodgate of PMs from other users about using other characters and they don't want that. For reasons stated they probably won't care either way but most players might not accept it if you do something that they feel wouldn't happen if the real BaB knew about it.

It's politics and legalities. If you've ever heard about J.K. Rowling over in America at one of her book signings - she kept being handed story ideas but her legal rep snatched them away before she could even touch the envelope. After a few hours of repeatedly snatching these envelopes away she asked what this rep was doing. They explained that it was to protect her in case people had written ideas based on Harry Potter and she handled them that they could claim it was copyright infringement and sue her.

You'd be better off asking here if someone wouldn't mind letting their own hero 'sponsor' this group. At least it would be more actively discussed and less restricting.

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I wouldn't take any offence to a group claiming to be backed by a Signature Hero. Would anyone here?

[/ QUOTE ]I'd be the same.

One of my villains is the daughter of Lord Recluse by accidental inclusion of his DNA into her genome.

Can I use this circumstance? Yes
Will the Devs acknowledge this? Hell no.

See I can use Lord Recluse in this way but if I do and they later say that he has no descendents my explanation will get tossed out the window and I'll have to recrete my character's backstory to something else.

So I can use the characters I want but in the long run it might mean a lot of ret-coning when the devs decide to expand the character in some way.

Agreed, I don't get it either. There's also a continuity glitch since the fire/fire is dead when the firekin shows up. Guess you had to be there.

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Ye of little faith - I am sure Kerensky will be reading this thread and all the Dev's will put off their xmas dinner to fix it for us...

[/ QUOTE ]Actually Positron has said (yes, 'said' not typed) that he is getting a team in to help fix bases

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Thanks Tyger for those links

Thing is, I asked for the balance...

[/ QUOTE ]Okay. There's a lot of 2x2 rooms that you can fit into a 3x3 room pattern for the most basic design.

Entrance (by default), medibay/infirmary, energy terminal, workshop, control room and then four of your choice. A simple pattern.

Here's mine for the Mastermind Academy (villain group) - as you can see: entrance in the corner, medibay north of the entrance leading to bay 2 telepads; east of the entrance is the power room which houses a regular generator and further into the workshop; north of the power room is the control room with a mainframe and four regular databases as well as a pillar of ice and fire; north of that, adjacent to bay 2 telepads is bay 1 telepads. Rough cost was about 1.8 million prestige for everything.

As I said, not in detail, with (energy) a power generator, (control) mainframe, four databases, (workshop) basic workbench, invention table, (medical) two ressurection circles, (transportation) four telepads and eight beacons the balance was perfect; equal control production to consumption before the pillar pushed it over by its own requirement and even then it was just the beacons which went inactive. That's without any crafted items besides the 2nd level empowerment station (which is self-powered).

Here's the Skull Kings base. Similar setup with the control, energy and medibay/infirmary but the workshop is a 3x4 and the teleport rooms are replaced by a single Secure teleport Bay (which can house 4 telepads). Slightly higher cost for the rooms but lot more potential for open space. This one hits over the 2 million mark for the secure bay and larger workshop. The arcane power source has the same price but a smaller footprint and the room can take a storage unit of some kind (rack, table or invention safe).

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What's the most you can get from the smallest base plot?

What's the max control/power
What's the max active teleport pads
Storage?
Crafting?

What is the best balance according to you?

[/ QUOTE ]Funnily enough I've been considerng making a how-to detailing what kind of operation you can get on just the smallest plot.

At first I thought there was a limited amount of stuff you could obtain but depending on what you want to do and what you can live without you can get some good to very good functionality on the smallest plot.

Currently my main villain group has teleports to all zones, workshop, medibay, power, control and even the Pillar of Ice and Flame. Before I put the Pillar in my control was perfectly balanced ie. consumption = production.

Paragonwiki Link to plot details - as you can see most of the stuff is unlimited except power, control, storage, workshop and empowerment items. With the small plot, you will only ever need one pwoer item and one control item.

Red Tomax details on base items - some of the items listed I didn't even know about and this is where my limited opinion of the small plot went out of the window.

It's also surprising what you can fit on that plot. From a basci 3x3 of 2x2 rooms of all types to a lsightly more ambiguous configuration using larger rooms.

It's easier villainside as there are only 8 zones to teleport to which cuts out the need for loads of telepads (and if they ever decide to make an advanced telepad that'll probably maake it even easier/more flexible).

For prefernce I have a balance of everything. My villain base has every beacon to all the zones on four pads in two rooms, enough control to keep everything operational including the workshop and medibay. I'm even using one of the 3x3 teleport chambers as a lounge and kitchen it's that spacious.

So to answer the questions:
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What's the max control/power

[/ QUOTE ]Depending on what rooms you can fit I'd say turbine generator level at least, 5000.

With that fitted, a supercomputer and an advanced database could net you 1000 control or if you fit a command center an AES will get you 1500 (which can also take aux items like the databse but on this plot you wouldn't need it).

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What's the max active teleport pads

[/ QUOTE ]As manyas you want or can fit ito your base's design. Four is enough villainside and probably heroside too if you choose tactically with destinations. Steel Canyon's beacon is near the green line which can get you to Skyway, Founders, Croatoa, Talos for example. 11 is the most you'll currently need anyway for the 21 hero zones available.

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Storage?

[/ QUOTE ]18 - a finite limit that can't be worked around without upgrading your plot. Again, more than you might need but that's the ceiling for this one.

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Crafting?

[/ QUOTE ]6 - including all workshp related stuff from base items to inventions. Another finite limit.

I'd say a medibay is probably a decent priority as well as choice telepads. Nothing says 'arrghh' than dying on Mercy only to end up back at the start whereas if you die and base-port you can return to the middle of the island. Also if you die in a PvP zone you can exit via the entrance to get back there.

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So I think to myself - 'I'll place an Aeon Capacitor in my most highly defended room, so that if my power goes out, I've got a few minutes of power to keep fighting' - I kind of guess that's how it works / what it is meant for.

I place it, and whilst it's 'being placed', it's alive and humming. I put it down, and it goes to 'off' mode.

Is it working properly? Does it need to be nearer something? Or does it not turn 'on' 'til the power is out?

[/ QUOTE ]AFAIK Capacitors are battery backups that switch on when your main power goes off. Placing it will (as a glitch) have it alive and humming as it isn't detecting any power source and then when placed it detects the main power and goes into standby.

Not sure as I've never been in a raid that lost its generator but that's what I'd think. Just a glitch in the base editor

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YW - IIRC the starting size is 8 by 8.

If you go into the entrance room and hit the "Change Plot Size" button, you'll get a strip along the bottom with all the options. If your size matches the first item on the strip, you're at the starting size.

[/ QUOTE ]Correct on size and you also get a chart at the top right of your screen which tells you the current plot your base is using.

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now we are also on the smallest plot so wewcan avoid rent issues so this means we can only have the one control room and that is what the oversight room is classed as, the oversight room dosnt allow the pillar and we cant place another control room to place it in there so what do we do apart from spending the next 6 month trying to farm prestige so we eventuly earn enuff to have a normal base or is there another solution.

[/ QUOTE ]Actually the oversight centre is a control room BUT the combo unit is a STARTUP item not a control object. You can put a control room in as well even if it's just for the Pillar.

I have a group that has its control room as well as an oversight centre so I know it is possible.

I'm also still available (meant to reply earlier).

Sitania is waiting for the time for minions to be called.

Battle for the Flop, Flopped

A few weeks ago, the Flop erupted in gunfire and dead bodies as an attack by several groups created chaos on the streets. Police investigaors have only just finished sifting through the evidence and have confirmed that the gangland shooting of several Marcone bosses was performed by the Circle as weapons found at the scene indicated. Witnesses claim they saw men appear out of the shadows attacking the Marcone bosses directly and seemingly unaffected by their retaliatory efforts but the lack of bodies has thrown their accounts into doubt.

The attack appears unrelated to the numerous random killings across the Rogue Isles. Police are still investigating.

Rogue Isles Guardian, 5th December 2007

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No idea how active it still is, but there used to be "Cosmic Balance" as part of the 1AT coalition. Okton's one of the leaders, IIRC.

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I am??? Don't think so since my WS is no longer in it. It does exist and there are probably a few active players in it, but not many (I think White Magic can invite? it used to be run by Double, SJ and Jiaozy iirc). All of the 1AT SGs have gone very quiet now except for the Rangers and many people have put their Union alts into the new Coalition of Heroes SG (and use the Overlords base for TP). So Cosmic Justice does exist, but I'm afraid it's a rather lonely place these days

[/ QUOTE ]When Issue 11 hit the login dates were reset from launch day making it appear someone was on about 3 days ago (i11 launch day)

Group Name: The Benedict Trust

Server/Game: Union/Heroes

Theme: Corporation/Hero Militia/Office

Webpage : The Benedict trust (Union Wiki Entry)

Contacts: Tyger (via PM), @Tyger, @Kidd Tyger (in-game)

Usual Activities: PvE mainly but hope to expand to cover as much as possible

Other Activities: RP - If you are part of the group you will have an established role that it is expected to be followed (much like any big business would) whilst IC. If you have a 'bad day at work' then of course you can act as such

Background & Structure: The Benedict Trust is a curious mix of corporation and private business. Owned outright by William Benedict. One of their main sources of income is from the patents on various technology enhancements used by Heroes (and Villains) across the globe as well as on the advanced computer technology prominent in most Superhero and corporate bases.

Willaim Benedict is outright owner, no other shareholders exist save for his wife making occasional hints which allows his personal whims to be carried out with the least amount of fuss. His current desire is to try and help out the city and its over-worked heroes.

Admission Notes/Requirements: How you join will hopefully determine your role in the group. That will also depend on your own character too. There will also be specific builds for toons that you can use and will form as part of the militia for the Trust.

Paragon Times, Columnist Steven Tyler's page, main article
"A step too far?"

Willaim Benedict has only just recovered from his coma but it seems his mind may have not fully recovered or that someone forgot to give him his injections that morning. What am I referring to? Why it's the Benedict's Phoenix Soldier Project, a re-run of the ill-fated Paragon Protector Project with the righteous glistening of 'volunteer-only' stamped on it.

I was invited like several other journalists to witness the unveiling of his latest project (or rather his first since he's woken up from a five-year slumber). With loud voice and accompanying soundtrack he unveils it to a fanfare and most of us were dumbstruck when what stepped out was a woman dressed in strangely red, white and black outfit wearing a helmet that would put PPD SWAT teams to shame. After the shock passed he claified that she had been dead for almost 3 years and resurrected by some kind of genetic bath insertion technique (my gobsmacked look prevented me from hearing exactly what he said as I was trying to pick up my jaw after it dropped off my face).

I remember several years ago that Countess Crey came onto the scene spouting glorious, praising words that her Paragon Protectors would bring order to the city, assisting the PPD when needed and she is currently facing lawsuits from several deceased hero's families about illegal usage of their DNA in creating them. Does anyone besides me see the glaring similarities? DNA, dead heroes, a desire to help clean up the city with them.. all present and correct.

The only glimmer of hope came from the words utter by Mr Benedict that she was only the first and for a moment I was almost convinced until I re-read those words in my head. He went on to say that they would not be 'alone' and that experienced heroes would be helping to re-train them for today's climate.

If this is his idea of helping.. God help us all.

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Question to Netherwitch and Tyger

I just wanted to ask Netherwitch and Tyger something. Do you guys have two groups or are you working together? Tyger was telling me about his idea last night on the Militia channel, and I'm wondering if the two groups are the same?

[/ QUOTE ]I can only speak for myself when I say my group happens to have a similar working agenda although not the same origin. The crux is that mine would support Netherwitch's or more rather it could be an extension of it.

If not (if it doesn't work for this) I can always continue with my original plan now my group is registered.

I think we can all agree that Fire/Kin's rock in any case...


...unless you take Primal Forces

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the reason i ask is my sg had at 9:00am had a total 1004312 from the super group registrar and we didn't get the badge so i PlayNC Support it and they only thing i really got back was "We have investigated the badge issue you reported and it appears your Super Group has not yet completed all the requirements for this badge".
So does anyone know if the 15 members join ur sg prestige bonus and paying for prestige though the SG registrar does not count toard the toward the total?

[/ QUOTE ] Benedict DR-3 Turret badge (Paragonwiki) - it is 10 million for number 3 less bonus and not counting inf->prestige exchange. 1 million is for the DR-2 and same conditions; less bonus and not counting inf->prestige exchange

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In other words, theres a group of us who would love to carry on in another incarnation should anyone be wondering about interest levels. Atleast I'd be interested.

[/ QUOTE ]It's funny that you should say that; I've actually started working on an idea very similar to this planned for the start of Issue 11.

In fact very similar to several ideas in this thread.

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Im thinking more like heroes who dangle goons off the edge of buildings to scare them into getting info, torch gang bosses loot rather than hand it over to the PPD, or tip off troll gangs about C-Dyne shipments so they do the dirty work for them. (...er not that I ever did that

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Don't most heroes already do the afore mentioned?

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"Why'd you dangle that guy off the edge of a building and threaten to kill all of his family?"
"I'm Batman"