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Quote:I didn't get it either. Maybe because there's more the EU than the UK, and people drive the same way as Americans on most of the continent.Originally Posted by Forbin_Project
Warden was making a joke. It was referencing the fact that in England vehicular travel is reversed. They drive on the left side of the road while Americans drive on the right side. The steering wheels are even on opposite sides of the cars.
Sense of humor, get one.
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Quote:Slovenia was the better team for the first 60 minutes, but in the end USA was just robbed. I hope that rev never gets to do a WC match again.Originally Posted by Chriffer
I believe America's karma debt incurred from Green giving us a freebie is now paid in full. Those calls were... interesting.
Also: lol @ England. That was just depressing. Maybe even worse than France. At least France gave the impression that they didn't want to do any better, England looked like they just couldn't do any better. -
Quote:Yea, that sucked. I hate the game the Swiss played, but it's hard to argue with its effectiveness.Originally Posted by Defcon_Kid
See? I was right after all (sigh).
Well, unless you're Danish and undo your tactic by scoring an owngoal
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Quote:Yes, it is.Originally Posted by poptart_fairy
It's bloody amazing how many people on this forum will assume a differing opinion is a hostile and derogatory one, simply because it contradicts their own.
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Quote:I understand perfectly well why some (a lot of) people are upset. That's not it at all. But I still find it nonsensical to direct that anger towards people just expressing their own, differing opinions on the matter.Originally Posted by Samuel_Tow
Ideally, so it should be, but human nature being what it is, that's not always how it plays out. I can't speak for other people, but as for myself, I was pissed off. Big time. I tried not to make a big deal out of it because I realise it was my own fault for building up false expectations, but I was still pissed off. And much as I try to keep a level head and stick to the moral high ground, I was still pissed off. I'm not sure if other people were as angry as I was, though I imagine at least a couple were.
Point is, what you did was a provocation. In an ideal world, we'd be able to laugh it off and all live happily ever after, but the world of angry people is often rather a very imperfect one. We get angry at things that, logically, we should be tolerant towards, but that's just how it goes.
You also have to be aware of the other side of the matter. There are several people around here, and I've started taking names, who've made it a point to act like intolerant bigots, and have gone out of their ways to insult and belittle people for so much as mentioning animal parts. I would like to punch these people. I make no qualms about that.
So please understand that when I met the (self-inflicted) disappointment from the Mutant pack AND had to suffer the fool of belligerent jackasses adding insult to injury, that your comment, benign as it is upon reflection, really did rub me the wrong way. I don't want to be ugly here and pester you with this, and I do apologise for making a big deal out of it, but try to understand why I and several other people might be "pretty upset."
Again if you perceive a provocation where there is non intended that's not my problem, but yours really.
(Last post that I used this line in got me almost -200 rep in one go, lets see if I can do it again )
Anyway, no need for apologies and all that. No harm done in one way or the other as far as I'm concerned. I'm withdrawing from this discussion now. I only went with it this far because a vital pump in the installation broke down at work and I had absolutley nothing to do.
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Quote:Wut?Originally Posted by poptart_fairy
Good christ the martyr complex on this forum is unbelievable sometimes.
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Wow, I can actually participate in something like this for once. Yey.
Working in seven day rotating shifts doesn't mesh well with events scheduled around normal work hours
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Quote:This is the comment that started all this.
I, for one, am incredibly happy the devs didn't turn the Mutant booster into an Animal booster, and instead chose to go with the sort of weird, well, mutated look that I love.
Being happy with things in the pack = Being happy others didn't get what they wanted.
You might not experience it that way, but it's the same thing, you can't have one without the other. -
Quote:I had a situation like this too once. 1 stone melee brute, 1 ss brute, a katana stalker, 1 MA scrapper and a BS scrapper. and I believe 2 controllers both emps and a dark/something corruptor. All decent builds all decent players.Originally Posted by WarronPeace
I concur. LGTF can be downright impossible without either a good amount of Psi damage or regen/resist debuffs. First time my ex went against Honoree (This was like my 5th time, only failed once before and that was because half the team crashed), we were doing fine. Until it was time for the Honoree. That didn't go well. I was on my Arch/Mental blaster, and I was the only source of Psi damage, as well as the only source of -regen. I don't remember the team makeup other than myself and my ex (she was on her claw/regen scrap) but we just couldn't do it. We'd get him down to a quarter health, he'd pop Unstop, neutering all damage but my secondary's damage (which I hadn't focused on all that much, having PSW, DP, and Psy Scream; the immob was unenhanced). So he'd regen up to 3/4 or so, despite all my efforts, and when Unstop crashed, we went at him, got him down to 1/4, lather, rinse, repeat. Folks started leaving, she got ticked and quit, and we disbanded. Never had that issue again, honestly. Some PuGs win, some lose. Way of the PuG, lol.
We breezed through that LGTF in good time, but we just couldn't kill the Honoree. Gave up after he popped his unstoppable for the 5th time. -
Quote:The difference being that you'd be an idiot to walk into a supporters pub from an opposing team and start riling things up intentionally. If it was just a regular pub visited by supporters from various clubs than you should be able to freely voice your opinion and be happy that your team won at the expense of the opposition without getten beaten up. That's how things work around here anyway.Originally Posted by Samuel_Tow
What you said doesn't offend me. It pisses me off. I was pretty pissed off when I saw what I was getting and what I was NOT getting in that pack, so believe me when I say that the last thing I need is someone gloating about it. You may not have intended it like that, but you walked into a thread where you should have known angry people would congregate and proceeded to smile at their misfortune. Can you not see how that would have made us even more angry, and specifically at you? Really?
I'm sorry. Tolerance, understanding and equality is one thing. Anger is a completely different thing.
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While I suddenly don't condone or excuse football violence, imagine the following: A team just lost, and you walk into a pub full of fans of the team fuming at the defeat, then loudly proclaim "Gorhs, I sure am glad those guys lost!" Just picture this and tell me what you'd expect to transpire.
Here we are in a discussions forum where everyone can voice their opinion. I just saw everyone and their mother complaining about no animal heads, and I'd just thought to let it be known that there are also people who don't give a crap about animal heads and are infact very happy with the things in this pack. -
Quote:...Originally Posted by Techbot Alpha
Thats like wearing a Nazi uniform because your a military uniform enthusiast, then claiming to be puzzled when you walk into a Holocaust survivors re-union and everyones offended.
Odd analogy, I admit, but its the clearest one I could thing of in my current state.
I so didn't see that one coming.
If you'd do something like that on purpose, then you're an ***.
If I'd just happen to pass by the re-union in that uniform and people would take offense to it, I'd just shrug and keep walking. -
Quote:Meh. I generally don't care how people perceive me, or if they somehow take offense to things I never intended to be offensive.Originally Posted by Techbot Alpha
Because, bluntly, it makes you sound like a bit less of a [Insult general dispariging comment here]
Saying "Im glad you didnt what you were after (and frankly promised)" makes other people want to tell you to kindly go to hell. -
Quote:Oversensitive? I'm still thinking yuo all are blowing things way out of proportention and are just looking for things to get offended by.Originally Posted by Samuel_Tow
Consider this - people were expecting something, and indeed looking forward to something, that didn't materialise. They express their disappointment at not getting what they wanted, and are met with "Well, I'm glad you didn't get it." How do you think that makes me feel?
You express your opinion, I express mine, it just happens to be the complete opposite. That is in no way intended to be insulting or whateveer, if you experience it that way then the problem lies with you, not me. -
Quote:Indeed it's the same thing. So what difference does it make?Originally Posted by Samuel_Tow
Let me ask you this - why not say you're glad the pack had what it had, rather than that it DIDN'T have what people were expecting? It's the same thing, but with much more generous phrasing.
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Quote:What a load of crap.Originally Posted by Mod_Noc
Masterminds are suppose to be the aggro magnets of CoV not brutes.
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Quote:Indeed, it's hard to punch someone properly in the nose through a monitor.Originally Posted by Oedipus_Tex
I don't think this is an argument any of us can win over an Internet forum.
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Quote:I'm glad that there weren't any animal parts in the set.Originally Posted by SpittingTrashcan
Then I invite you to consider the distinction between "I'm glad X was included" and "I'm glad Y was not included." Perhaps some of the people currently unsatisfied with what is included would have been happy if what is currently included was not, but if they had expressed that enjoyment in that fashion I would have likewise considered it a strikingly ungenerous sentiment. And I'm reasonably certain that if the pack had included both what is there and animal elements, the people expressing relief that the animal elements are not present would not be expressing joy that there was something for everyone.
But more simply: if you like what is in the mutant pack, say that. If you talk about what is not in the pack, it tends to suggest that you are doing so for a reason.
Full disclosure: I like what's in the pack, and will be buying it. I would have liked it even more if it contained more things, including animal elements. I'm holding out hope that animal elements will be included in a later pack, or as part of a free update.
There I said it. Why? Because they would've been of no use to me whatsoever. That's all there is to it. No hidden agenda, no secret repressed furry hate.
I'm just happy they spent time working in things that I'll actually use. I honestly don't have a single current or future character concept that would require animal parts of any kind, just not my thing.
Would I have been unhappy if the pack had been about animal parts? No, I wouldn't have been. Like aparently a lot of others I actually was expecting it to be about just that. And though I probably wouldn't have bought it, I wouldn't have spoken out about it either.
Now that it has been revealed though, I'm actually happy that it is what it is instead of animal parts.
I really don't see how that sentiment is unfair or ungenerous or whatever. -
Quote:Didn't you just become Euro champions 2 years ago? I think your curse has been brokenOriginally Posted by Defcon_Kid
Btw... being Spanish and watching so many people thinking we are favourites makes me blush ... Tbh, every single World or Euro Cup Spain has been considered this way, but always happened something, a referee, a failed block, a failed penalty... this time I really think we can do it (crossing fingers with a hand while holding a horseshoe in the other ).
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After today I'm strengthend in my believe that Germany will take the Cup. I still hold out hope for a Spain - Netherlands finale though. Poor Australia, they got played completely to bits by a far superior Germany. I see the Aussies doing a lot better in their next matches though.
Serbia ... that was just horrible. Deserved win for a good Ghana.
What was that other match again? I think I fell asleep during it. -
Quote:I've seen this comment from different people in this thread and it doesn't make any sense.Originally Posted by Samuel_Tow
"I'm glad you didn't get what I wanted because I got what I wanted, instead!" will not win you any friends in the bread line.
So you're saying that if the set had been indeed an animal parts set that everyone who was happy about that would've been in the wrong too?
They would've been happy I didn't get something I wanted, because they would've gotten something they wanted instead.
Personally, the last thing I wanted to be in the mutant pack are various animal parts, they don't appeal to me at all. I'm a lot happier with this. -
Greece was just appalling. Deserved victory for a swift and unrelenting S-Korea.
Argentina clearly outclassed a seemingly overwhelmed Nigeria. The main reason it didn't end in 3-0 or more was the Nigerian keeper. It balanced out a bit more in the course of the match though, mainly because of Argentina loosing momentum.
It's clear that England is a more technical team than the USA, though the USA aren't that bad overal. That being said England played horrible, there was no direction, no combinations, they just stood there all doing things randomly it seemed. Deserved draw imo, even though the US got lucky with the Green blunder. -
Quote:My semi-concept build, semi-cheap IOed SS/invul brute regulary functions as a main tank on the LRSF (without pulling in the final 2 missionsOriginally Posted by Deus_Otiosus
I agree for the most part.
At the same time, many Brute Secondaries are often refused entry onto things like the LRSF due to their (perceived or actual) lower survivability levels. (I don't agree with it, but that's what happens)
So I could actually see people looking to grab a Tanker for that particular TF - or even low level grouping in general which is where many Brutes tend to lack the ability to tank for teams due to no IOs or not having all the necessary power choices yet.
I think most people who play tankers frequently, or even exclusively, will be very disappointed with Brute survivability levels as well as the expense necessary to make a Brute into what I refer as "Armageddon Ready". ). The only 'expense necessary' is a balanced teams that knows what they are doing imo. 
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Quote:E voila. Exactly my opion, but nicely formulated without the mangled English.Originally Posted by Silas
My thing about Brute vs Tanker survivability is that while a Tanker will pretty much always be tougher, being that tough isn't necessary.
A Brute, with IOs and/or team support, can be tough enough to take the punishment of anything that is realistically going to be thrown at them.
In any situation where you've got anything that does enough damage to warrant the toughness of a Tanker, you've generally got enough team support to enable a Brute to take the punishment and do far more damage in the process.
Yes, a Tanker, (depending on Primary, skill, slotting, etc etc), could tank them without support. That's not really meaningful unless your team is 7 Blasters and the Tanker.
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Quote:Never said all you did was trolling. I took a jab at your obnoxious habbit to toss that annoying picture in anyone's face who says something you don't agree with. I found that you're ranty overreaction presented a nice opportunity to return the favor, but alas.Originally Posted by Techbot Alpha
I'd reply fully, but if your going to lambast anything I say as trolling, then Im going to save my fingers the effort.
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Quote:So very much this.Originally Posted by Street_Wolf
I, for one, am incredibly happy the devs didn't turn the Mutant booster into an Animal booster, and instead chose to go with the sort of weird, well, mutated look that I love.