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I don't think those norms will ever develop. It's been quite a while, and I don't see any indication that they exist. I declare that I am a farmer, a hero of the people who supplies stuff to the Market like an honest hard-working producer. But really, is that all I use the market for? You'll never know. I will decide how I use the Market. There is no absolute morality. We're talking about shinies in a video game after all. There is no absolute fair price. The Market is a consignment house, not a store. No one knows what I am buying or selling. No one will ever know if I'm using the Market improperly (which is ENTIRELY subjective), so why should I care? In fact we probably disagree as to the proper use of the Market. There's no reason for norms to even form.

I suspect most Marketeers (including me) view the Market as a minigame, where the object is to earn Inf or get what you want from others in an indirect PvPish setting. Everything about the Market seems to support that view. Telling Marketeers to stop because you want to get some shinies ("win" at their chosen game) is just plain stupid. It's like standing in a PvP zone and asking the PvPers not to fight back, because you want PvP IOs or the 400 Rep badge. You are asking them to stop doing something they enjoy, so that instead you can do something that you enjoy. It's just not gonna happen.

Wait! I've seen the light! I will no longer be an ebil Marketeer! Promise!

Given a random distribution, the most frequent roll is in the same bin of x5 as probably several others. It just happened to get lucky. That means the highest frequency roll is not the best choice to use as the x5 weight. Similarly, the least frequent roll us the unluckiest of the x1 rolls, and likely does not represent the x1 rolls. So I would look at the groupings and select one of the middle of the highest bunch as the x5 roll, and hope to see that it was about 5 times as large as the middle of the lowest groupings.

For the 10-14 range, it certainly looks like Impervious Skin is the only x5 weight. In the 15-19 range the x5 weight probably is closer to 70. That makes the lower range look better. For the 20-24 range I think the x5 weight is a lot lower, like 50. For 25-29 the x5 is probably in the low 30s.

I'd say wait on more rolls. If you want to do something, take a stab at figuring out what the weights are in the 15-19 range based on the data Leandro posted. I'm hoping some obvious patterns will appear, and will be related to the category (melee, hold, etc). That's what I plan to do when I have time. Then I'll compare those weights to the 10-14 range, to see if there are any differences.

You missed this: "I earn my Inf from farming and selling in order to twink my chars."

I enjoy playing Super Heroes in a Super Hero game. The Devs may think that means fighting 3 even con mobs. I prefer going as far as the game will allow. My Illusion/Rad Controller has solo'd Lusca and most of the other GMs in the game. My Fire/Psi Dominator could dive into a pack of 90 bosses in AE and take them all down. I have a handful of chars of different ATs who can solo AVs. That takes the best gear in the game, so I farm to get it. Farming is simply a means to an end, and it doesn't bother my conscience like Marketeering might.

If the OP's suggestion was implemented, I'd have 45 level 50 chars who could walk through almost every challenge in the game. TFs would become a joke. Have you even been in a speed ITF where everyone has highly twinked chars? In mission 2 you all split up to take out the cysts. It's silly how fast it goes. That's what the game would turn into.

While your analysis may be true, it doesn't apply to me. I'm a farmer. I have only dabbled in Marketeering. I earn my Inf from farming and selling in order to twink my chars. I have around 20 chars fully twinked with purples and such, and another 25 or so who could benefit from easy IO transfers. If this change was implemented, I'd be able to stop farming and do something else. Maybe leave the game because I've done everything else. I have no vested interest in maintaining the status quo with respect to the Market. So rather than analyzing WHY I am for or against the idea, why not analyze the idea itself as I have. Of course you could always turn around and find some reason why farmers would be against this idea, but then I'd have to question why you are so in favor of it.

You claim this is a QoL fix, but it is not. It would make the game massively easier. If you could unslot IOs to transfer them to alts, friends or SGmates, then everyone would be running around with the best gear in the game. You may think that would be great for players, and a lot of people may agree with you, but a lot of you would get bored and leave the game if that happened. The Devs know that, and that's WHY we have Ultra-Rare items in the game. It has to do with motivation, emotional investment, perceived worth, and various other psychological phenomena.

I've been doing a lot of PUG TFs recently on Infinity. During one someone said, "I remember when TFs used to be hard." IOs have given us back everything taken away by ED and GDN. I regularly find multiple people capable of soloing the TF (spawned for the full team) till the AV at the end, and some could even do that. Damage is up, Defense is up, END use is down. But that's because people have spent a lot of time and effort to acquire the best Enhancements in the game. Give that carrot to everyone and there's one less thing to work for, and one less thing keeping us in the game. And this change really would make the best gear in the game available to everyone.

I believe you're wrong. I could store every purple drop, all the unique heals, the incredibly expensive unique PvP IOs, 5 LotGs, and misc others in about 2 Enhancement bins. I could then swap them to any character I have, making them silly overpowered. I wouldn't swap every IO, just the really expensive ones. It wouldn't take very long, and it wouldn't be a hassle unless I had to do it frequently.

If I did this, I'd be able to sell off a lot of the purples and other expensive IOs I currently have. Other people would similarly buy a single set of everything and swap as needed. Say I had 4 completely twinked characters on a server. I could strip them and keep about 2 chars worth, and be able to completely twink any char I had on the entire server. I could sell my spares and that would enable someone else to do the same. So we go from 4 twinked chars to potentially 24 twinked chars. That would raise the bar throughout the entire game by significantly increasing the number of silly overpowered chars.

In Diablo II, you could trade gear freely. I built up some powerful rare low level gear I would give to every char I started and it made the initial levels a cake walk. Sure the low level bonuses are small in that game, but they add up when every single item you have has 5 decent bonuses. Imagine if every character at level 10 got KB protection, Res/Def and Def/TP, and Regen Tissue and Panacea uniques. Add a Miracle unique at 20, up to 5 LotGs at 25, and a Numina at 30. Note that you can do exactly this today, and it just takes a single respec (or freespec) to strip out the really nice stuff. I expect some people actually do play this way. But if everyone could do it, the game would just become too easy.

Based on my old Drop listing & analysis thread, the purple drop rate is around 1 every 1500 mobs given a normal mix of Minions and Lts.

It's worth it to make sure you have one char each redside and blueside that has memorized every Common IO recipe. Whenever you need a common IO for one of your chars, place a reasonable but unique bid. If it doesn't fill, you have just discovered a niche. Switch to your crafter, then craft and sell that IO till you see your unique bid win. Then craft more, and milk it for all it's worth. It helps if your crafters belong to SGs with a decent amount of Salvage Storage loaded with Common Salvage. Always remember to restock the salvage as well.

I've got a Spines/Dark with Leadership and no Fitness. I think he has 6 DA toggles, Quills, 3 Leadership toggles, CJ/SJ, and Acrobatics. That's 12. If he has Tough and Weave as well, that's 14. But it was made for a SuperTeam of about 5 Spines/Dark Scrappers and 3 Emps who alternate both RAs. I'd need another build for non-Superteam play.

My record is about 4.5M at level 3 in 30 minutes. See HERE. However, someone managed to earn 1 billion at level 1. But your 989k at level 5 is more than you'll need for a long time. And if you keep doing what you're doing, you'll be fine all the way to 50.