Thirty-Seven

I... have never heard of ANY of those things before this thread.

I think there are some suggestions that are truly worthy of a heated argument about whether or not there is a place in this game for the suggestion at hand. I have seen some horrible suggestions made for this game that would fundamentally alter a myriad of different arenas. For those suggestions, I think it is fair to rail against them and argue that the "idea is bad and should never happen."

This, is not one of those suggestions, however.

Explain to me why that bore repeating... *counts* five times in a row?

Yes, I get that. But once Fantasy became a genre unto its own, to me, there is a line drawn between the two. Similar to how we don't look at a shark and talk about it as if it were an amoeba... just because things derive from a singular source does not mean they are not different. But, that is really beside the point.

Also, let me be clear that I DO like Fantasy, and fantastical monsters AND dragons... I just don't think those things should really be featured in this particular game (without a very logical reason as to why they are there).

These for sure!

(Also, I fixed-ed it.)

I don't know much about a bunch of those...
Also, I have to ask: No Soul Edge/Soul Calibur?

All three, I would think.

Hmmm... who is an enemy to Nemesis, and is a female?

Point taken. However, to be clear, that was a general you. I didn't mean your personal argument, I should have been clearer.

I will soon be running into this 'problem.' Makes me wish there was an Astral > Empyrean conversion... even at some ridiculous exchange rate.

And that makes your argument, what? "I do like it so there?"

When folks are arguing about preference... both sides of that preference are fair game. I am merely discussing my point of view, I am not saying the argument is invalid just because I don't like it. But if folks are allowed to argue they do like it, I am allowed to say otherwise.

That isn't cogent to the point of this thread. And the proposed dragons were NOT humanoid.

While there are TONS of things that get tossed into standard comics all of the time, that doesn't mean I like all of it. Also, I will note that Mythology and the Supernatural are NOT what I mean when I say Fantasy. Fantasy is, to me, the classic D&D-styled adventure: dungeons, monsters, intrepid warriors. That type of fantasy is not the type of thing I want prominently featured in this game. Does it intersect? Hell yeah... but like Cimerora, it is in isolated pockets. The majority of CoH is 'modern' cityscapes and western comic-inspired heroes and villains. I quite like it that way.

Also, the fact that two things are 'nerd-ish' does NOT mean that I have to like both of them. I love my dog... and I love to have err... relations with my partner... but I would NOT love bringing those two concepts together.

Yes, and those examples are of things that just shouldn't happen in comics. There is a reason I don't know about those... if I see a cover where Iron Man battles a dragon: I won't buy that one.

Odd, because I don't see any of those things as Fantasy. I think we are operating on two very different definitions here.

Lockheed is the dragon from X-Men. Also, don't get me started on manga (it is perfectly fine as a media, but it is not one I really like mixed in with my western comics like X-Men, et al. Note, I am NOT saying that they don't mix, I am saying I don't like it when they do.).

One nitpick: Ms. Liberty can't make you taller (not a Super Tailor), but she CAN give you a new hat. Not sure I like it either way though, either.

I think I have to agree with that last part, Sam.

Then something else is going on... because no other enemy in the game that I know about will LITERALLY disappear mere moments after he is directly in front of me after travelling a very short distance. If I have him targetted, he has dropped off my target... even when I attempt to follow him. There is SOMETHING up with his ability to be located. I am not saying it is impossible (I have killed him 3+ times on various characters), but it IS much harder than any other enemy in the game (stealth or no).

That is SO true.

I remember when I had to write notes to myself of things I wanted to look up when I was at home... near my encyclopedias (okay, not really), but my computer. Now? I reach into my pocket and look up the answer on the spot with my phone. And OMG the day I forget my phone? It is as if the world has been torn asunder by (giant man-like) ungrateful cave-dwelling shrimp!

Oh god yes! I have only played since just after i9, and I (let's call it fondly) remember that. I remember folks who joined my team and asked if anyone had Recall, and if no one said yes, they would quit. And NO ONE got mad, because all the rest of us had just spent half of our playtime for the day getting to the mish in the first place.

Which will look WONDERFUL in all of the many, many indoor maps this game uses. Bordering on the idiocy of the Bruiser riding in on a motorcycle in a sewer, or Sky Skiffs in the Terra Volta Respec map. I think this game has enough bizarre things like this, adding MORE is not the answer.

Yeah, I am SURE that this is inaccurate. I for one, think dragons should be kept in Fantasy games where they belong. (Fing Fang Foom not withstanding, but of course, he is a stupid character with a stupid name.)

Explain to me how ANY mythical beast is more realistic than any OTHER mythical beast? Oh, that's right... you can't, they are all equally improbable. Also, did you just say that dragons are more realistic than dragons (emphasis mine)... jigga what?

I'd rather date Manticore, myself... but thanks for that.

Is it possible that the Echos and the Reflections are one and the same... and the reason that the Reflections seem tortured is because they have been somehow cut off from that greater mind/timelessness that you speak of?

Now why that would be, I am unsure... it could be anything from the way Rularuu was imprisoned, to some odd eccentricity of how time flows (or doesn't) in the Shard... but I should think they could be related. (And in fact, SHOULD be from a game mechanics perspective. One should only use unique effects like that for things that use the same concept/idea. It would be like if Fire Blast was used by an enemy group and did Cold Dmg instead... it should look different to describe a different effect.)

Considering how much I love the Rikti architecture alone... YES, I so want to go to their world.