Thirty-Seven

This! (But without the anecdote since that was his story, not mine.)

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Obviously you didn't read the whole thread...

Prolly.

That is not a valid comparison. Name another Powerset that bestows an inherent power unto its owner when the set is picked at creation.

I am under the impression that it will be the titular character from the "Dark Mirror," whoever that is, and not someone from GR.

to: I get this: "It's not that I don't like Tanks... I just won't play them anymore now that we can have blue-side Brutes." Which makes absolutely no sense, by the way.

Who are you trying to convince? Us, or yourself?

Ummmmm. No, you didn't play the "same exact character" (as redundant as that statement is), because one was a Brute and the other was a Tank. They are, by their very nature different. And if you played the Tank wanting it to be a Brute (or vice versa)... well then, there is the root of your problem.

Now you get it.

Ummmm, what's rotting in a kid's OJ?

Ahh, but that is where you are wrong (I think). If the power were BUILT differently, then it wouldn't need to call a static NPC, it would be able to call the dynamicly created, player designed character (standard code rant applies, but this conclusion is drawn based on the fact that BAB commented that before Power Customization was implimented, it would technically be possible to make all new powers customizable, it's just that old powers were not built with that in mind and were coded as such... I posit that MM Henchmen could work the same way... as would a newly built version of Granite).

To put it simply: yes, exactly! (And no, you wouldn't have to buy both.)

That's why I suggested them!

Nope, they aren't... didn't you get the memo?

Not to mention that the game was in development as Marvel Online BEFORE they switched it over to Champions... I would imagine that the powers system may have been partially (if not almost completely) formulated.

That doesn't follow... and isn't what I said. Fire is fire. Ice is ice. A character can do whatever it wants. And that is my subjective opinion. Besides, since when does clothing, in this game, impact powers?

What I did say, and what I do mean, is that possessing the Thugs set, for example, should not allow you to create Robots or Zombies or Bunnies (actual bunnies)... because those things are not Thugs. A character can do whatever he wants with his character and his concept, but a thing is a thing is a thing. A rock does not get called a telephone, because, well, it's a ROCK!

And to a point I agree with you. Keep in mind, that I was also one of those folks that was opposed to Power Customization... at least in part.

Ahh, but here is where I will agree with you. Those are still thugs. Soooo, a thug is still a thug is a thug. Recall that I did support being able to pick from a predefined selection. So: Cyborgs for Robots, perhaps; Mafiosos for Thugs by chance; and Skeletons for zombies? You bet! I am cool with all of that because it fits the theme.


However.....

There is one alternative that I WOULD support. Getting rid of ALL of the Mastermind pets, and simply having a Primary called "Pets" and the whole thing is customizable... what the upgrades are, what the Level 18 power is and how the Pets look... all the way down to name, if you want. That way, the player is in charge of what the concept is. Forcing a concept onto something that isn't that thing, is wrong to me.

(And of course there would be Ninja, Robot, Thugs, etc. themes that would give that set the exact look of one of the existing sets, for the purists out there...)

The closest I can find, are comments made in reference to Granite Armor: Here and Here. What, you may ask, does Granite Armor have to do with Mastermind Pets? Well, as you know, the Mastermind pets are pre-defined NPCs, in fact each pet is actually several NPC (one regular, one with Tier 1 upgrade, one with Tier 2 upgrade, and one with both Tier 1 and Tier 2)... each of these is called by the game when appropriate (which is probably the problem with MM pets "losing" upgrades when they zone, or appearing as just unowned NPCs ).

So, the relation here, is that the game would have to somehow be able to call a dynamic model each time a Matermind Pet power was used (or a MM pet zoned)... and as stated in BAB's post re: Granite, that is simply not supported. The game calls a given NPC and only that NPC. How hard that is to change, I have no idea, but that is how it works at present. Sorry that I couldn't find anything better than that, and I will try to locate a dev post describing how a mastermind pet is called, so that that too, has an official source.

Edit: I looked and looked and simply could NOT find the comment I remember describing MM Pets as NPCs... grrr.

Hahahaha...

Witch.... spells... get it?

Muahahaha, I slay me.

Or, perhaps the most "elegant" option: eschew the whole mess and ONLY post things in local time... That way people can convert to their own dang time and no one has to feel the need to fix things.

I can guarantee you that they were only included as a matter of completeness. Also note that his list was not a wishlist, but was a list of ALL sets that a given AT does not have access to, but could.

Sooooo, unless Stalkers have a powerset named "Katana" then, technically... VERY technically, it can be proliferated.

I guess I will just never understand this... they are DEAD! What difference does it make?