The_Demon_Hunter

I should have been clearer in what I meant. I don't want to see these PvE raids as a commonplace occurrence. It loses impact then and becomes routine instead of being special at all. In comics, they do happen, and it is part of the genre, but its usually the exception and not the rule. Making it a special thing that can only happen under certain circumstances, such as part of a story arc (and not every story arc), makes it so such a thing is an event. Otherwise it just gets boring and is lumped in with every other bit of "been there, done that" repetitive content people complain about already.

EDIT: Edited to clarify I was referring to PvE raids.

See, this is where I'd like to see things as a starting point. You view CoP and Silver Mantis SF as throw-away ideas that lead nowhere because the base itself isn't the battleground apparently. Instead, try using those as examples of what bases can offer in terms of being needed to launch SG-exclusive mishes. It makes more sense that way and is then more readily available to more people.

Play a MM or lead a SG of like-minded players if you just want minions to do your bidding in this game. Villains in this game are just someone else's hired thug most of the time anyway, thus placing you far below the rank of the best supervillains. When you're legitimately on a par with Dr. Doom, Lex Luthor, or Loki, come see me.

And in just about every RP-oriented base, you'll find many of those same things. Every decorative element in every base I do has to serve a purpose, whether for a functional item or to serve as the springboard for RP, including to launch adventures as a team and SG.

You do have the ability to do the first part. Congratulations, that's what your workshop and crafting stations are for. You're literally using pieces of that Rikti tech you salvaged to make yourself more powerful by integrating it into items that boost your power. If you're a Mastermind, you can augment the power of your minions this way. They're called Enhancements. Those who have the imagination to RP can recognize and then explain it as such. This currently exists.

For the latter part, you'll need to ask the devs to give you ways to lock up the heroes so you can explain your evil plan, and then make it so they can defeat you over and over because you were an idiot and kept them in your base alive long enough to let them beat you. Not very much like the kind of villain most of us want to play, thank you very much. Good villains don't fail because their plan is faulty. They fail because the hero finds a way to get past their "foolproof" plan (usually through some sort of deus ex machina, but that's another story for another time). At any rate, asking for the ability to make things happen where you're destined to lose as a player might be fun to you, but not to many others if I had to bet money.

See here's where you're missing the point of adding mishes accessed only by base items.

That's what superheroes and supervillains do!

Batman doesn't go to the Batcave to fight off the Joker and the Riddler. He goes there to analyze clues he took from the scene of his last battle or from a crime scene and then plan out his next move. Using that idea as our basis, let's construct a very simplified story arc for Heroic base users, shall we?

1) Monitor Duty -- You've received an alert from your base's computer (ie the appropriately-named Mission Computer) that the 5th Column have struck once more and are unearthing something at the bottom of Independence Port. Your task is to attack the 5th Column and stop their salvage operation.
Mish Door: Raid Porter to instanced map of IP used for Safeguards/Mayhems.
Mish Conclusion: Defeat leader of salvage operation (an EB) but you're too late and one of the crews escaped in a sub. You're able to retrieve a small piece of metal, which is unrecognizable (Unique untradeable salvage, called "Unidentified Alloy" for this example) from the salvage leader.

2) Analyze the Metal -- Returning to your base the Mission Computer needs proper analysis of the alloy done before it can be used to cross-check against existing materials. For this mission, you leave the control room and head to your workshop. Using an Invention Table, craft up unique recipe "Composition of Unidentified Alloy" which is done to simulate your analysis of said alloy. (This is similar in nature to crafting the Lost Wand in the blue side Midnighter's Arc). Once it is crafted (mish complete), you return to the Mission Computer and input the data you have from this analysis.

3) Alloy X is revealed! Alloy X, according to encrypted government records, was used by the Nazis during WWII to create various superweapons. A classified document reveals that part of one such weapon was being transported to Paragon City during the attack that cost Atlas his life. Atlas lost his life but not before he was able to sink the freighter carrying this weapon. This weapon, in the hands of the 5th Column? It looks like you'll have to stop them! The Mission Computer taps into various satellite imagery to show that the 5th Column have taken over the Council base in the Volcano on Striga Isle.
Mish Door: Raid Porter to a redressed version of the map used for the final mish of Ernesto Hess TF, showing Archon Burkholder reverting to his 5th Column loyalties now that they've promised him the use of components powered by Alloy X to launch his newest Mega Mechman.
Objective: Defeat Burkholder and his elite guard; Retrieve Alloy X Components.
Timed Mission: 30 minutes
Success: You've stopped the 5th Column from launching a superweapon that Atlas gave his life to stop.

Now like I said, this is simplified greatly, but that's an example of what superheroes typically do that involves their base. They actually use the items in their base to actively contribute to the mission completion. A real SG-exclusive arc could be done with much greater complexity and could in fact be done with branching choices like was done for some of the morality mishes in Praetoria.

The possibilities are limitless in utilizing the bases we already have, simply by creatively writing arcs that reward SGs for putting in the effort to get these objects.

Content for bases doesn't have to be all about raiding, whether PvP or PvE. It can be done simply to encourage teaming within the SG and to encourage SGs to earn the facilities needed.

Rikti are not "persons," I would argue. They are merely volunteers to assist my LegendBots in sighting in their targeting software.

Not unless they're giving us floor tiles with more textures than the while tile deal we have now. I only use that as a last resort when I need to cover something else that's an even worse fit aesthetically.

Thank you, Turbo. Since they made the changes to base pathing rules and let us overlap items, I've done all I could to layer items together to create a unique look for items in all our bases. I want to make sure our bases have a unique, custom look to everything and so it all winds up being redone and made more complex in some way.

Thanks! I'm always willing to have people in to look around when I'm free. At the moment, I'm getting close to completion for the meeting room, and I'm in the process of redoing my lobby/reception area (added a Robotic Fabricator behind a custom made desk, for starters). I'm slowly working on upgrading everything in the base to that standard. It's a work in progress though, just like every base

*crawls out of the shark tank* You know, lady... if you weren't one of my officers, I'd have you replaced with a LegendBot for doing that... again....

My point is that what's done is done at this point, and these are the people who are supposedly talking with the devs and now have their ear. Rather than summon up the pitchforks and torches, see what they have to say first instead of burning them at the stake. If you don't like what they actually push for (or get), then scream for their heads and form up a posse. I'll light the torches for you.

Otherwise, why waste the energy when so many people have had discussions with the devs in the past that went absolutely nowhere?

Are some of you just angry that after all this time of being ignored, someone other than you figured out how to talk to the devs in a manner that got them interested enough to take those talks at least semi-seriously? Are some of you afraid that your own pet projects for bases will be overlooked now because someone else is talking to them instead?

Seriously, the cat's out of the bag, and everyone knows that those three are talking to the devs now. Ball's in their court now to tell us what their agenda is, not for the rest of us to complain that they might actually succeed in getting something done.

I'm not part of this little committee, but before anyone else speaks of mistrust, it appears that a leak somewhere made it so everyone heard about this little endeavor of theirs before they were ready to announce it, which is presumably why they haven't presented the plan you're asking for (and one I was pondering myself before taking this into account).

*shrugs* Far as I'm concerned, we should all just give them a few days to figure out what their exact message and goals were going to be announced as. If they've got the time to dedicate to this and an ability to calmly and rationally discuss it with the devs, with an open mind to see both sides of the story, more power to them.

If you're insinuating that my comment was meant as a personal attack, then no, that's not what is happening. I was merely trying to point out that asking "only" for something that doesn't exist and suggesting it has to be the first priority to the exclusion of all other issues they might be able to work on for bases is probably setting the bar a bit too high to be realistic.

There's certainly no ire or ill will on my end, regardless of what you might think.

I just think we need to have a little perspective about what may be big or small. You just happened to be the one to jump out there with the latest request for "x" base item/feature that doesn't exist yet, so I responded to that.

Um... you do realize that's not a small start, right? A small start would be asking for things that do exist, not things that don't exist yet.

You seem to have a realistic and logical approach to this. Certainly far more of one than is normally seen here, IMO. I always find it amusing to see the question of "what existing thing do you want for bases?" answered with some variation of "this thing that doesn't exist." Looks like you understand the difference.

Color me at least cautiously optimistic if this is the sort of thinking being brought to the devs by this committee.

In contrast, I wouldn't say I'm "boiling" over any of this. I'm just taking a wait and see approach. Not real keen on the idea of a small circle setting the agenda, but I'm not going to lose sleep over it.

To be quite honest though, I find that too often the wish-lists pushed for by the majority of the base builders community are too far-reaching and likely work against any kind of implementation in our lifetimes. That's not to say I don't share some of those goals, but I see too many around here who have a "Give me everything and give it to me now" mentality in regards to base costs, editor changes, item additions, etc.

If the committee is successful in getting anything done, then I salute their efforts. Given what the general consensus around here usually amounts to though, I do hope you'll all understand if I don't count on any of it ever seeing the light of day.

I wish the committee luck.

It's a Catch-22 situation with the new Fury.

Changes to the Fury cap to reflect the new artificial limitation will mess up the Frenzy power's use in giving you 100% Fury. Leaving it as is just eats at those of us who used to run at 90% full-time.

We only have two Turbine Generators in ours but we're a small crew. I managed to build up the twin Turbine Generators to look like a single massive piece of equipment though for the House of Heroes base.

And yes.... I think it is rather crowded there. Might have to take a "laser" to the moon for what I call my "death star" and start knocking the others out of my way.

Yep, that's what I used for my starfield windows for the House of Heroes satellite. I'll get pics posted whenever that room is complete. Just need another 1.5 million Prestige to do it....

I've gotten 14 or 15 purple drops from Tip mishes alone since GR hit, including two today in a half hour span on two different level 50 tankers, running their mishes solo at +0/x8. Add in another two or three on ITF runs. This follows a span of about five months with no purple drops running with pretty much the same difficulty settings.

It can be insanely streaky at times but as said before... random is random.

I'd take an extra power in the flight pool that allowed for supersonic flight for stuff like that. Perhaps treat it mechanically as a power that lets you switch zones without going through a gate or ferry or train or whatever. Make it a Tier 5 flight power or something.

It would be like Superman scorching the sky in his wake on the way to the gulag in Kingdom Come. THAT is some seriously iconic and godlike superhero flight there.