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I more than likely will get it tho ill hold of on a definite till i see it

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wooooo found like there batty

well im /elec so my survivability is a low to begin with so it probably doesn't help matters

but even against foes like rikti which elec dose well against my ability to damage/control them seem lacking

maybe I'm just expecting to much from the combo (tho i had low expectations of it to begin with) but being able to solo a villainous mission with only a small degree of difficulty doesn't seem to much to ask

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The problem with changing Claws for Stalkers is that if you improve one aspect then the others need to be reduced to balance it out.
Buff the damage and the cast time, recharge and/or endurance cost gets nerfed to compensate (leaving you with Ninja Blade). Adding a second damage aspect ends up stepping on the toes of other sets (spines for toxic, EM for energy etc) and from my understanding DoT damage is a pain for stalkers as it maintains detection.
Claws works fine for a more scrappy Stalker that teams regularly. The rapid attacks mean more chances per fight for a Critical hit.
Claws are the weapon set of a buzz saw rather than the one-hit-kill, so to a degree they are not ideal for the regular tactics employed by, for example, a Ninja Blade/* Stalker. I don't think the set needs to be buffed, it more likely a case of using a submachine gun to do a sniper rifles' job.

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I'm actually playing as a scrappy stalker but it doesn't always work its not always possible to get a team or the team I'm in may just not be good for a scrappy stalker and ill find my self facing something that i lack damage and/or protection to scrap at which point its a very quick trip to 0 hp

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Claws isnt burst damage unless your a nightwidow.
You can still scrap it out as a stalker.

In what way do you feel less damaging thean the other primaries?

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damage wise it seems to lack a big hit but also lacks any kind of compensation for its lack of big hit.

at the opposite end of the scale you have EM that has the big hits as well as the useful secondary effect of disorientate

in between claws and em you have electrical melee which gives up some ST damage for more AoE damage in if I'm not mistaken can even perform its tier 9 without breaking hide

dark melee while low damage its damage type is rarely resisted from what i can tell add to that it dose to-hit debuff on every attack, has a fear power that can effectively hold a target, and a self heal power that dose a significant chunk of damage

ninja blade i have little experience of but looking it over in mids it seems to be claws but better has -def in several attacks as well as a +def power

duel blades again similar to claws but has the advantage of combos which bring a lot to the set.

spines similar to claws but dose lovely toxic damage which almost nothing resists plus it has -spd/recharge in many of its attacks

so i suppose my bug bare is not so much that it lacks damage i could live with its lack of damage its the fact that it doesnt seem to have a corresponding ability that sets it apart from the other sets.

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Claws need no buffs.
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If that's the case is there something I'm missing? i have all the claws powers from apart from the first attack and all my attacks are six slotted 3x acc 3x damage placate and buildup are 3x recharge yet my damage still seems average at best and compared to other stalkers i seem week.

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If any changes go through for Claws I would hope they'd just be for stalkers. At the moment claws plays differently to other scrapper sets and I love the difference. Maybe if Claws was my only scrapper it would be different but I love how it feels compared to the others.

Not being the sort of person that would play a stalker I cant say whether I think the change is needed or not, but I sure as hell would resent any change to the scrapper set just because of stalkers

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your right from what I've played as a claws scrapper (never got all that high) and what I've seen claws works well on scrappers there high(ish) HP combined with good armour values means they can stay in the fight and get the best from claws.

Its stalkers I'm really having the problem and it was more them my suggestions were aimed at

Ok first of let me say claws is a great set while its individual damage isn’t spectacular the damage it can deliver over time is great with all its fast recharging attacks it can lay out a constant stream of damage.

Except continual damage is only any good if you can stay in combat and deliver that continual stream of damage so for the like of a scrapper claws are great but on a stalker there not so good a stalkers low HP means thieve got to kill quick they cant afford to stay in combat for prolonged periods of time it also doesn’t help that since claws dose primarily lethal damage that there damage output is reduced further thanks to leathal being quite highly resisted

So how to fix it (if it even needs fixing maybe its just me) first question is do you change claws for every one or just claws for stalkers and that would really depend on the level of change I suppose.

So my suggestions. (I’m not suggesting that claws needs all of these there just some ideas)

1) Add a DoT component to claws attacks either as Bleeding damage (lethal DoT) or poisoned damage (toxic dot) both these could be added but that would probably be worse
2) Add a second damage type so ala vanguard make claws a mix of leathal/energy (could brake some peoples concepts )
3) Add a debuff one of claws attacks already dose –def this same effect could be added to the other claws attacks
4) Up the damage on the stalker version of attacks and adjust recharge/activation times to match, this would mean that the stalker version would be better at burst damage than the scrapper version but the scrapper version would have a better attack chain and be able to lay out a consistent level of damage.

metal spines would have to be added as a new power set to get it to work (like what your suggesting i think) and would be done more than likely in a similar way to axe/BS/mace in that the powers would share animations but be given slightly different effects.

Back on topic shiny costume parts would be good always wanted to do a oily looking stalker so the plain smooth body parts with shininess would be perfect

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For a time i looked at stats but i found that toons i created based on stats alone werent fun they lacked soul.

Im not sure what changed but i came across a post on the US boards about how poor elec was as a stalker set (which it is it horrid) and i had read posts on how great claws was as a scrapper set but it lacked burst dammage to be good as a stalker set add in a half formed ghost in the machine background that was lurking in my head and cybergeist was born he's proved great fun to play up thrue the lvls (now 45) and he'll be my first non brute 50.

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I hope that refered to /Elec on stalkers and not Elec Melee, as thats a very fun set for a stalker. Infact Elec/Nin stalker was fun from 1-50, so enjoyable I would do it again.

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yea elec armour not melee

For a time i looked at stats but i found that toons i created based on stats alone werent fun they lacked soul.

Im not sure what changed but i came across a post on the US boards about how poor elec was as a stalker set (which it is it horrid) and i had read posts on how great claws was as a scrapper set but it lacked burst dammage to be good as a stalker set add in a half formed ghost in the machine background that was lurking in my head and cybergeist was born he's proved great fun to play up thrue the lvls (now 45) and he'll be my first non brute 50.

Nice the cat is excellent maybe to good as i find my eyes drawn to the cat rather than the character but that could just be me.

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First of all, Mess you are right GG's costume resembles WW and Captain America in some ways but as i wanted give her an American Flag like cossie this one is the best i can conjure up before getting too close to WW or Captain. You and Neko missed the greatest mistake of the picture tho'. Her feet doesn't fit into paper i was drawing... my bad orientation... and i am really sorry for that.



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I should say that the wonder woman comment wasn't a crit just more of a observation

As for the feet thing i wouldn't get to hung up about it, it used to beg me when i would draw something and not have space to fit in feet/legs/arm but then i realized you don't always need to fit these things in, just look at some of the work on deviant art,concept art etc and you'll see plenty of pieces many by professionals that are missing feet etc.

However if you do decided to add feet at a later stage consider rollers skates as there's just something about the pose that screams roller skates to me.

I really get the impression that NCs security when it comes to using cards is more trouble than its worth companies should make it easy for you to give them money not difficult

that's kick [censored]

Tho I'm left wondering whats she spotted in the sky above her?

Got agree he's very efeminet looking that or he could be a young Steve Taylor stunt double.

That looks ace kinda wonder womanly only thing that seems weird is the wink the rest of her face doesn't seem to be winking along with her eye (dose that make sense?)

wentworths could have a representative in the base while the black market could set up shop at the old hospital give them some bolstered private security at the doors and have the actual BM within the building

hehe

Pretty simple i would like to see a auction houses added to the the co-op zones (Cimoria/riktiwarzone/Pocket D)as i find it annoying that its not possible to drop stuff at the market while on a combined team

they could be done in such a way that they would fit into the zones so market stalls in the market place for Cim etc

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And yeah i am guessing you are on the verge of posting an apology for all the gender based one liners you have delivered in the past.Just to stick to the "doubles standards" rule.

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Of course not! As we all know sexism is only bad if it is directed against women.

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I remember one woman saying "Only men are sexist" which is not what all women will say. This among other things helps to see your point.

But I like GGs points too. However women do contribute to making "raunchy" characters too.

I thought this was a better topic than the actual topic.

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Yea i wonder if you took at all the female alts in CoX how many of them would be played by women and how many of them would have "raunchy" costumes. also of those played by males how many have non "raunchy" costumes.

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If were talking sexism in comics should that not be comparing melons to pancakes?

Thats pretty dam good cant wait to see more.
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Have you done more yet?

it dose sound rather fun

to experiment i downloaded the game to my work PC (I'm sure the IT department will just love me) looking at it it gives the updater for both the EU and the US but only places a short cut on the desktop for the US.

seems a bit daft to me why they don't just have it place a shortcut for both on the desktop and have them labeled approprietly i do not know.

sounds like the desktop shortcut is pointing at the wrong file right click it and see where its pointing i would guess it says ""C:\Program Files\City of Heroes\CohUpdater.exe" if you installed using the defaults.

where it should point is "C:\Program Files\City of Heroes\CohUpdater.eu.exe" so what to do is just create a shortcut to this file instead.