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Not on your life :P

agreed new zones unless there something really special (like a underwater city or a alien world) are pointless redo the hero hazard zones into duel hero/villain not necessarily co-op but joint please

gah get off woman i know where you've been

skanking it up with those mek jockeys

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarg shes back run run for your sanity

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I was here for ED and the numerous regen nerfs and yes those times were hostile but that was a different type of hostility and maybe i'm looking back with rose tinted glasses (possibly the same ones others are using to view previous issues) but the forums were far more friendly.

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I wouldn't say the forums were more friendly back then -- rather the opposite. There was a lot of bad blood and hostility and high tempers. Right now, the forums are the most calm and mild-tempered they've ever been.

The forums were a lot more enthusiastic and positive before, though.

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Well whatever they were they just seemed more fun of course maybe im just becoming bitter as well and havent noticed

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Come to the Meh Side, we have cookies.

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Meh i don't like that flavour :P

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I was here for ED and the numerous regen nerfs and yes those times were hostile but that was a different type of hostility and maybe i'm looking back with rose tinted glasses (possibly the same ones others are using to view previous issues) but the forums were far more friendly.

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I wouldn't say the forums were more friendly back then -- rather the opposite. There was a lot of bad blood and hostility and high tempers. Right now, the forums are the most calm and mild-tempered they've ever been.

The forums were a lot more enthusiastic and positive before, though.

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Well whatever they were they just seemed more fun of course maybe im just becoming bitter as well and havent noticed

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Usually when special events occur and give a time at 10/11 am it's because they follow a maintenance donwtime...

So I'm guessing that there may be a maintenance downtime tomorrow... on a Wednesday...

Maybe just to turn off the CHAOS, but then again, that should stop at midnight BST tonight...

So...

Any chance that Posi may be announcing something tonight that goes live tomorrow morning??

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Surprised I've not had any comment on this - not even a "JD you're being a fool"...

But wondering further on this...

I've been wondering why Posi is doing the address when he is.

I'd guess that making an announcement at noon PST would have made more sense to me... that'd be noon in California, 5pm in NY, 8pm in UK, 9pm in central Europe.... much more hospitable...

So I'm wondering if it's either:
* CoH was originally 'switched on' at 8pm EST (the address time);
* Posi wants to announce something at the evening that goes live the next morning.

I don't know exactly when CoH went live, but 8pm EST seems very odd so I'm discounting that. But the latter interests me...

Ok - foolish optimism maybe. But I can still optimistically wonder...

Until then: anyone think of any reason why Posi is doing it at the time he is? Or is it just to let the West coast get home from work and logon?

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I daren't answer for two reasons.

One: I find no flaws in what you say.

Two: I'm scared to agree with you. I may jinx it.

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even before the 5th aniversery was announced people were complaining that it would just be another invasion and asking why the Devs could come up with new stuff but look what happens when they do its never anuff here we are getting the anouncment of i15 mere weeks after i14 hit and were complaining that theres not anuff being added.

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It's not enough for the following reasons:

a) the Devs have known the exact date of the 5th Anniversary for some time now. They have had plenty of time to get something cool and exciting happening.

b) A large chunk of the dev team has been working on I15 for a LONG time. (I'd guess close to a year.) They come up with 2 TFs, one of which fails to plug a much needed hole in the Villain SF arcs.

c) The rest of the issue is simply shiny bits.

d) When you stack I14 and I15 up against previous issues, they are weak in comparison. ISsues 9 to 12 were excellent. Issue 13 gave us a new zone (albeit a bit wierd and not in any continuity) and an excellent TF.

I14 turned Atlas into CoF

I15 will not redress that.

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a) and had they allocated resources to doing something cool and exciting come next year when they re used it we would be having the same conversation and resources would have been used on something that happens only once a year.

b)but it dose give end game content to heroes and villains something that was constantly asked for only a few months ago also 2 TFs are more than we've had in a while

c)many issues have shiny bits its often these shinny bits (costumes etc) that will see the most use and look at the complaints when there were no costumes in i14

d)see my comparison of issues i15 doesnt seem any worse to me

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really when i google city of heroes i get the EU site first when i google city of heroes forum i get EU first. if i purchase through steam i get EU so there's a fair to even chance that they will end up on the EU.

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very odd. I go to google and type "city of heroes" and I get

www.cityofheroes.com/
www.cityofheroes.com/trial/index.html
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/City_of_Heroes
boards.cityofheroes.com/
www.amazon.com/City-Heroes-Pc/dp/B0001DLLWC
cohvault.ign.com

etc, etc. In fact the EU link is not even on the first page. It is top of the 3rd page. Anyone with those results will go to the US.

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what google are you useing? i use google.co.uk are you useing google.com perhaps?

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Its one thing to express disapointment its another to be out right hostile which is what many of the recent posts have been.

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You think this is hostile? Heh. You should have been here for ED. Now, them was some rough weathers, oh aye, winds that would snap the mast in twain if you put as much as a handkerchief on it and every minute or so a wave the size of Essex would come crashing down and snap the keel, sending all of us into the sea. Sometimes we were rescued, and sometimes we weren't.

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I was here for ED and the numerous regen nerfs and yes those times were hostile but that was a different type of hostility and maybe i'm looking back with rose tinted glasses (possibly the same ones others are using to view previous issues) but the forums were far more friendly.

The EU community used to have a good rep for being a friendly bunch now i'm not so sure.

Ok so lots of well issue X was better than i15 (how you can tell when its not even on test yet I'm not sure) so of I've trotted to the issues page with pen and pad and compiled a little list lets have a look shall we

i1 (eg stick in all the stuff we couldn't get in pre launch)
2 new zones
the sewer trial
instanced outdoor mission and enhanced indoor missions
extra costume slots
3 new enemy groups (Malta group, carnival and pratonians)

i2
2 more zones (hollows and shard) one of which was hated for a long time the other is just largely ignored
2 more enemy groups
respec, eden and cavern trials
capes
auras
badges

i3

striga
the council
lusca and the ghost ship
Epic ATs (hero)
ancillary pools

i4 aka the issue that brought us PvP
Arenas
Anime inspired costumes well martial arts really
coalition chat

i5 one of my favorite issues
Croatoa and all its associated enemies and missions
new powers
some zone events

i6 a seemingly small issue
the 3 pvp zone
and some QoL features

i7 the villain issue that got all the hero only players complaining
Grandville
RV
Mayhem missions
Patron powers
electric melee/armour,thugs, dark melee/armour (stalkers)

i8 the hero issue that got all the villains complaining
safeguard missions
police band
pocket D Arena
Faultline revamp

i9 much complaining about this issue as well if i remember inventions and auction houses were the end of the game
Inventions
Auctions
STF
New Hami

i10 a small issue that added nothing for the sub 35s
rikti invasion
RWZ revamp
RWZ joint task force
vanguard

i11 the start of the hole coming storm thing
weapon customisation
duel blades and willpower
Ouroborus

i12 as this was the roman issue that introduced the "pointless zone"this should be a bad issue yet many like it especially the ITF that it brought
Midnighters
Roman Zone
Roman Armour
villain Epics
Proliferation
mini hollows revamp
QoL stuff

i13 my least favorite issue
Day jobs
multi builds
shields
Pain domination
Leveling pact
Merits
New Cim missions
some costumes
more inventions

i14
Architect

i15
a villains strike force
a hero strike force 2 forces that's the most since Ouro
new costume sets from the little information given that's 2 complete costume sets not just the odd bit here and there like given with day jobs but 2 complete costume sets more like Exo proto and stealth or sinister and justice sounds good to me and i await screen shots
Costume change emotes if we hadn't had the magic pack this would be something big certainly asked for several times in the past who says the devs don't listen
new faces
Architect update seemingly including some of those asked for features so cant be that bad

So i don't see the problem with i15 ok maybe it doesnt seem as big as it was made out to be but at the same time its doesn't seem smaller in general than previous issues i really think people were just expecting to much from it.

Its one thing to express disapointment its another to be out right hostile which is what many of the recent posts have been.

even before the 5th aniversery was announced people were complaining that it would just be another invasion and asking why the Devs could come up with new stuff but look what happens when they do its never anuff here we are getting the anouncment of i15 mere weeks after i14 hit and were complaining that theres not anuff being added.

Not all that long ago myself and others were accused of being ungrateful because we dared ti suggest that it would have been nice if the valkyrie mac pack had included weapon models for more than just broad sword.

if asking about weapon models is ungrateful then what the hell is all the moaning about the Devs promised this and the devs said they would do that and they never did it that would seem to me to be just as ungrateful even more so honestly many on this forum sound like spoilt children never content with what they get.

really when i google city of heroes i get the EU site first when i google city of heroes forum i get EU first. if i purchase through steam i get EU so there's a fair to even chance that they will end up on the EU.

Except a large percentage of our veterans spend 90% of there time moaning about things that's hardly going to attract new plays.

Imagine a potential new player decides to drop bye the forums are they

A) going to see a happy friendly community that loves the game they play

or

B) see a bunch of old moaning sods that are fed up with the game because the developers don't add what they want add and instead proclaim there off to play champions.


So assuming your reading the same forums i am there going to see B why would they sub there far more likely to go look up champions and play that.

That's the thing Champions is just "new" there's no way the Devs can match it for new content it would be foolish to even try.

Whats important is what happens post champions release these days people burn through content like there lives depend on it how long before similar threads appear across on champions forums it'll be far sooner than 5 even 4 years time because with 2 games in town then 3 then eventually 4 as DC and marvel get of the ground players are going to be going
"look in city of you can make your on missions why cant we do that in champions"
"look in champions they have shape shifting why cant i do that"

etc etc


The only reason CoH has retained as many veterans as it has is because its basically the only game in town that's why many of the veterans are still here not because they "truly love the game" but because it was the only game that fulfilled a need that's why 5 years down the line even tho there largely board with the game there still here because there was nothing else.

Is there a list of the promises not kept i personally cant think of anything that the Devs flat out promised would happen

even proliferation happening every other was more of a wish on there part rather than a set in stone it'll definitely happen promise

Out of curiosity do we know its definitely the same old 5th or are we getting a revamped 5th?

that could work and would nice and different from the rest

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Sure they cant be perma (shame)

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Dam you techbot reading this got me thinking if you can perma domination suerly you can perma reinforcements

so Tada

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course you'll need to farm from now till doom's day to afford the build but there perma. i think even the patron pet is perma well at least its recharge is under its duration but I'm not sure if there wont return within 15 mins is hard wired or not.

also your pretty much reduced to a walking buff bot for your pets with only 4 attacks but then with a lovely cycle of venom grenade / suppression with the odd Omega thrown in do you need more

I like it and would definitely leave the wings as is to me they look like they could allow the character to fly.

Looks good maybe you should submit it into the good Vs evil comp that deviant were hosting (if there still hosting it any ways)

Hope you don’t mind I changed some of the values so that the individual armors would work together better.
Changing the def from Smash/lethal to Melee in Radiation armor will give the set over all 27% defense to all positions as well as 10% to all types of damage un-slotted, slotted that would rise to 42.1 to all positions and 15.6 to all types.
I added +res (debuff def) to Radiation haze which brings the total debuff resistance up to 20% which isen't all that much considering that shields can get 34 and even at that can suffer (its important to remember that a lot enemies can do –def) though this set has far more defense than shield so would be hit less so it mite balance its self out.


I’ve reworded the tier 9 to reflect what you clarified. But I’m not sure how good or useful it actually is if you’ve made it to 32/38 using powers 1 to 8 would you really need it. Tier 9s often represent pushing your powers to there limits where for a time you operate above your normal limitations (ice and stone being the exceptions to this) with 42.1 def to all positions (provided you keep my change to Radiation armour) your only just of the def soft cap adding combat jumping with a single def SO would boost that figure to 45.1, the same could be achieved using maneuvers with 2 def SO slotted or taking weave. And that’s before even considering basic IOs or Sets so I would recon that you would find that very few people would take the tier 9.
Instead what about replacing it either with some kind of a more left field tier 9 power maybe some kind of blaster like Nuke where you expand all your stored radiation in a single blast of power it would more than likely result in your death but then theres a self res at position 8 so theres some nice synergy there. Blow every one up and then res your self

(note I’ve only did tank figures as its much easier to work out figures for one AT and then convert them)



1. Radiating Armour: +def(Melee) +res (debuff def)
17% Defence, 10% resist

2. Irradiating Field: PBAOE minor DOT, 4 sec tick on damg
radius 10

3.Controlled Infection: Auto +def (all), + recharge, +res(slow/recharge reduction)
10% Defence

4.Radiation Haze: +ranged def, +AOE def. +res (debuff def)
17% Defence, 10% resistance

5.EM Embrace: +res(hold, sleep, Knock back, disorient and immobilise)
Mag -13 protection

6.Enhanced Metabolism: Auto +end, +regen
both get 15%end and 20%regen

7. Poison Cloud: pbaoe foe- regen, -recharge, foe vomit/choke.
Stats same for both (10% debuffs)

8.Lingering mutation: Self rez, +dam for 30 sec then -dam for 15 sec therafter.

9.Atomic Release: +def, +res, +regen for 1min then -10%all for 15 sec
tanks get 45%def, 40%res, 40%regen

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We're not going to ruin the surprise...but suffice it to say that all CHAOS is going to break loose in-game on our anniversary date and you're not going to want to miss it! From 11am EDT on April 28th to 12am EDT on April 29th, get ready to re-experience some of the things that have made City of Heroes® the great game that it is over the past five years!

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Wow, rikti and zombie invasions. Can't wait.

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Have rikti and zombie invasions actually been mentioned anywhere or is it just a assumption on the player bases part?

There a bit like Crey we know there bad and evil to the core but the general populace just see this multinational company that makes all the cool stuff or in the carnivals case happy clowns.

Kinetic combats were pretty cheep when i looked early last week but maybe supplie has dropped since then forceing the price up or somthing.