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I can add the option to vote for that, I didn't add it because it didn't seem like an option anybody would vote for but WARE, just as I didn't add my 6 team playoff model because it would probably just dilute a vote or 2 and serve no real purpose, despite still believing it's better.

It's still a vote, it may pass, it may not, nothing has been decided yet. You are trying very hard to push this agenda which paints me as some corrupt league leader who is trying to model this league to somehow benefit me and nobody else. I didn't just bring this idea up out of no where, the idea was brought up to me and I asked multiple people what they thought about it, and the response was generally that it was worth bringing up, so I did. I just happen to agree with the idea.

If I wanted to model this league to benefit me or my team, I could easily just start making up BS rules that hurt other teams ability to win and things of that nature, which I have not done yet.

Like I've said in my last few posts, I'm not pushing for it, it's pretty obvious it's not a popular setup, and if that's the case then it won't happen, but I stand by my opinion that it's a better setup for this league.

At this point I'm not pushing for it, but I originally made it because it would address a lot of people's concerns with the playoffs. It would put value on regular season seeding while still allowing everyone to participate, as well as removing the continuation of points from the regular season. It would also typically give teams the best matchups for most of the season, and it would give all of the teams more playtime in the playoffs. I know plenty of people just play this game for 8v8, myself included, so I don't see how increasing the number of matches could be bad, since it's not extending the season and it's not forcing any match dates besides what we already have (Sunday).

The only real argument against it that I've seen is people think it's too complicated or too drastic of a change to make at this point, despite the fact that it basically addresses every problem people have with both the point-based playoff and the elimination playoff.

I have a hard time believing that most teams would not be able to field 8 on a pre-set date agreed upon by both teams since most teams have regular practice anyways, and most of the regularly practicing teams usually field more than 8 on those days.

In any event, if there's little support for it, then it won't happen, I still believe it's a superior system to both of the other options.

Other then that, so far it seems like the 4 seed, 5 match single elim playoff is the most popular change.

Your opinion matters, Sep, don't worry.

To clarify, my current version of that 6 team playoff would still keep the league to 2 weeks, it would just be 2 matches per week instead of 1, with round's 1 and 3 being freely scheduled before the Sundays of round 2 and 4.

I get the feeling that most people haven't really read in it's entirety what the idea was.

Apparently the GP network is under maintenance or something atm.

There were 4 teams scheduled to enter that draft, but 2 of them pulled out basically right before the draft. Again, I'm not sure where you get the idea that I am pulling strings for my team or any other team.

Also, I already told someone from your team in-game that the draft was a go before I even read this, all I was asking for was clarity beyond just saying you wanted a re-draft.

You can but there's no draft protection or anything like that in re-drafts, so it's possible that you will be picked up by a team you didn't want to be picked up by. I also would be hesitant to call a redraft if we only have like 4 or 5 free agents or some kind of low number, or if it were just 1 or 2 teams interested.

That would definitely be a pretty big issue if a lot of people would have that problem, which is possible. If that's the case then we would just have to go back to either the current setup or the 4 seed playoff.

Another thing to consider is if teams can work it out, to have round 1 of the matches scheduled team by team, as in, 1v2 and 3v4 would possibly be on different days depending on what each matchup can agree to, as long as they are done before Sunday, at which point round 2 could happen for every team on the Sunday of week 1, and then round 3 back to the team specific schedule, and then round 4 (finals) on Sunday for the remaining 2 teams as well as the 3rd place matchup... the 4th place matchup could happen at any point between round 3 and and the Sunday of finals.

I would find it hard to believe that teams would not be able to find agreeable match nights for playoff rounds, even if it means possibly skipping a practice or something. It would also allow for flexibility that we don't usually get with the league setup.

If that if also unpopular then we have no choice but to just keep it to the 4 seed playoff, which would probably be changed to single elimination based on what most teams have told me.

You could always set up some kind of practice type deal with HB who has the bye that weekend, and during the thanksgiving weekend break, I'm sure there will be people who have downtime who will do some form of 8v8 be it Kickballs or practice matches since nobody has officials scheduled that day.

It would be their choice, yes. If they don't want to do it then it can't happen, but if they do then it's something that could be done.

The 6 team playoff would greatly diminish the value of the regular season, that is true, it was kind of an alternative idea I threw out there to see if I could somehow work all 6 teams into the playoffs, and we could still keep it to 2 weeks long if we did 2 sets of officials on the weekends, but that might be sort of hard for some people.

The other thing that would make the 6 team playoff still dependent on seeding would be to offer some kind of advantage to higher seeds...

For example, 1st seed might get the first 3 rounds or something weighted in their favor, like Hemm said, where they would only have to win 1 match to advance or something along those lines, while 2nd seed would get any rounds not played against the 1st seed before finals weighted, and 3rd anything below their seed, and so on and so forth, down to 5th seed who only gets the weight benefit over the 6th seed or something like that. That would put a fair amount of value in higher seeding, but still allow all of the teams to participate in the playoffs.

It would give higher seeds the advantage of only needing to win 1 match per round against any seed lower then them up until the finals which would not be weighted.

I would be open to that, I'm assuming it would basically be dissolving CC and doing some kind of redraft out of their remaining active roster?

Redrafts can be called at any time given there's actually free agents in the pool.

That was because it was Halloween and some of us were with RL friends, some of us have kids, and some were at parties or trick or treating (Swag). Either way it's not a regular occurence, and I wasn't trying to take jabs or anything, what I said was my understanding from what I was told, although it's very possible it was exaggerated.

In any event, I'm glad you chimed in with your take on the playoffs issue.

I was trying to strike a balance between competition and giving teams as much playtime as possible, which is why I had losers of 1v4/2v3 fighting in the finals to find 3rd place, while the winners would go on to determine 1st/2nd. If I could figure out a way to do something like that but also have a losers bracket type of deal that would be ideal, but I'm sort of afraid that would force the league to go another 1-2 weeks longer.