Texas Justice

I'm not sure YOU understand the usage of the word nerf as it relates to computer role playing games or video games.

Perhaps the term you are looking for is gimp.

I'd still say it's not really gimping a character by using a SO/HO build since the game is designed around SO's and not around IO's. Because of this, it's still an effective and valid build if you aren't IO'd out. It may not be a fully maximized build, but it's still not a gimp build.

If there were a design change that made it so that the difficulty of the game was designed around IO's I'd agree that a SO/HO build was gimped.

As one example, when they first put the Alpha unlock into Beta there were players that were complaining that it was impossible to defeat Trapdoor solo. Most that were complaining were mentioning their IO'd out or even Purple''d out builds. TopDoc and another player (sorry, I've forgotten the name) were asking for specifics about their AT, Primary and Secondary then rolling up characters with that build and outfitting it with only SO's then defeating Trapdoor with that SO only build. In several instances they noted it was the first time they had played a particular powerset that was being used or at times it was a powerset and AT combo that they hadn't played.

I had to agree with TopDoc and others that were arguing that Trapdoor wasn't too difficult to solo since I'd run the mission on an Ill/Emp controller, a DM/Regen Scrapper and a Fire/Dev Blaster using my normal SO/HO builds. I've run it on Live with non-IO'd characters even after the changes to the mission that negated dragging him into the Lava or pulling him out of that chamber.

An SO build is still valid, no matter how much you want to claim it's not.










It's a shame the forums went down this morning at 4:45 AM Central since I was in the middle of typing the above post when it went down. If it hadn't, my reply would have been directly after yours.

There are however 2 Trials with a minimum level of 24. The Terra Volta Reactor Trial (Jane Hallaway as the contact) and the Tree of Thorns Respecification Trial (Sparcetriel as the contact).

So there is a precedent for Heroes getting one thing with 24 and Villains getting something similar yet different with 24.

So that would make all of the discussions of the changes they've announced as coming in I24 (such as this thread) threads that need better evidence?

Synapse and Zwhydoyouthinkmyhatispurplewhenitisblue said it during the Twitch.TV show today.

Of course, it's a bit of a paraphrase but it gets across the same point they made in a similar manner as to how they made it.

Good luck.

If the speed of the people claiming the Coralax codes was any indication or the speed at which codes were claimed Wednesday afternoon for the Kirby Dots codes are an indication then I'm fairly sure you'll need all the luck you can get.

Tails as a separate entity from belts. I'm sure those came after capes and auras (Issue 17 was when tails were moved to Lower Body to separate them from Belts, Capes and Auras were added in Issue 2).

I "think" that ears as a separate selection may have been after capes/back items and auras, but I can't recall when they became a separate selection.

And Warboss' WHIMs are the fertilizer?

Not all people that are not using IO's are nerfing themselves. I've got several SO/HO build characters that are quite fun to play, die very little and can handle pretty much anything I choose to do in the game. I've just never felt the need to put in the time to research the sets or tinker incessantly in Mids just to figure out an IO build I liked. I've recently done a budget build on my main and so far I'm not noticing a huge difference, but I've not had an opportunity to thoroughly test the build since I've been working on another character trying to push it to 50.

Not all players play in a style that allows them to rake in abundant sums of inf or have little use for the market other than selling what they get as drops. Not having the inf readily available for an IO build is something many players have mentioned in various threads.

Since the game isn't balanced around IO's it is an entirely optional system that not all players engage in for various reasons.

Not using an optional system isn't players choosing to "nerf themself", it's just another example of a playstyle that differs from yours. And it's no less valid a playstyle than yours is.

Fail.

You forgot to mention fixing the text errors.

NT, you sound as if you live near someone that you've maybe had this discussion with.

Yes, but the prediction was about what would be announced today.

PRAF was only 50% correct since they did NOT announce any graphics customization and they did NOT announce any new power pools (bought in the market or free for all).

The only two that WERE announced today that PRAF said would be announced were the first two of the four. That's 50%.

Sorcery was even more of a dodge than any possible graphics customization in that Synapse pretended he had never heard of it.

So no, they didn't announce Sorcery... 'nuff said.

People that don't have access to IO's.

People that don't use the (completely optional) IO system.

Issue 25 IS going to come after Issue 23.

Issue 24 will just be before Issue 25.

You did. And before I made my comment.

I just wanted Nal to understand your incorrect spelling of the term was in no way part of a Rangle Plot™.

I'd have to go back and listen to it again, but I believe that was the description they gave. It was as I was logging in to Twitch.TV that this came up so I didn't get all the details.

The other detail that I did catch I won't comment on since it will only anger some.

50% on your predictions.

You are not the Oracle we were looking for.

The word you are looking for is moot, not mute.

As for whether or not the use of the word Fuhrer was moot due to the return of the 5th Council, there are several people that would be offended by the use of that name.

The historical figure most people associate with that title was a promoter of genocide and his policies and ideologies led to the deaths of millions of people.

Even though the word may still be in use in Germany, many in the rest of the world would still find the use of that term offensive.

From Wikipedia:

Sorry, Rangle has been taking lessons from Warboss of late it seems.

Warboss has problems with words. And days. And pretty much anything else.