Texas Justice

Bwahahahaha.

Seeing this post, with the (current) post count of 69 gives this a whole new perspective.

I tried NoScript based on your recommendation, but I'm going to have to uninstall it since it doesn't seem to play nicely with some of the features of these forums. As an example. I can no longer hover over icons and get a popup telling me what that icon does. Clicking the Quick Reply icon took me to the full Quote editing window and didn't allow me to use the Quick Reply that I was trying to get to. I don't like having to fight my addons to do what I normally do. Yeah, I know I can temporarily allow this site or always allow it, but it's more trouble than I want to deal with.

I'll pass on this one. Especially since I basically only use Firefox for testing sites that are work related or that format themselves to look nasty in IE but ok in Firefox. Yeah, there are a few. And some that refuse to run in IE at all.

Actually, they were looking at new forum software before Cryptic bought the CO IP if I'm remembering correctly. I "think" that the discussions actually started before NCSoft had bought the rest of the City Of IP from Cryptic, but I could be wrong on that one. Also, others have mentioned that Exteel used vBulletin forums and someone else mentioned that Aion is using vBulletin so I'm thinking it's a bit of a cross-NCSoft switch.

UBB was a good starter forum setup, but vBulletin is quite a bit better in many ways, not the least of which is the back end administration.

Thank you for those links. Some very useful additions there.

I'll try to respond to a few Negative points you brought up. One I'm going to ask for clarification on. I think I know what you are asking, but I want to be sure.

- I agree that it is difficult to quickly spot thread titles that have new replies, unless you look for the small downward pointing triangle to the left of the thread title. Clicking that icon (though rather small) will also take you to the first unread post in the thread. I'm thinking that clicking the forum title not taking you to the first unread post is a vBulleting standard, although I could be wrong. If it's not a standard, there's likely a mod or theme or something to enable this. It may take some time to get it all smoothed out.

- Most of the action icons have a popup text if you hover over the icon without clicking it. Actually, much of the forum has this hover-over popup action, including thread titles giving the first pieces of the original post. Very useful for those threads titles like I Had an Idea or similar.

- This is the one that I need clarification on. You want to have a link that you can specify the displayed text for the link? If what you are meaning is having words be the links, like I did in that sentence with the word specify, that's easy to do, although it wasn't obvious to me at first. Basically, type the text the way you want it, then go back to the word(s) you want to be the link, highlight them and click the Insert Link icon and enter the address. You can also use the same [ url ] and [ /url ] tags like we did in UBB if you want. If you are meaning something else, please clarify. For those interested, the link above on the word specify takes you to a vBulletin Community Forum page on BB Codes. Very handy.

- I use the Forum Jump link in the lower right corner for almost all of my navigation unless I'm making a post. It's much easier as it lets me jump to the index of the current forum, jump to a new forum index, the UserCP, or just about anywhere I want.

- A bit of tightening up may be in order, but I'm going to give them time to read over the suggestions and also finish getting things completely rolled out. I'm sure they haven't finished with the new forums, but rather are just getting started good. Remember, several of those involved in varioius parts of the forum change have left in the middle of the process (that's taken a couple of years).

- Yeah, we complained about the signature limitations of 5 lines in the I13 Beta Forums. Either it fell on deaf ears, wasn't passed along by the people that left, or wasn't considered very important. Considering an IMG in a signature can take up more space than 5 lines of text ... yeah, that needs to be fixed.

vBulletin has many good points, some of them you just need to play with the system to find out about, or ask someone who's been tinkering with them.

Hope this helps.

I'd much rather get more control, such as being able to turn off images in Signatures only.

I have mine set to not show images, and I still see emoticons.

The only thing I lose that I miss is being able to see images directly in posts, much like Positron's recent post showing us Power Customization for I16. But, it shows up as a clickable link and if it's something I want to see it's easy to click on it and let it open in a new window (it's default behavior).

Yes, I'd still rather have more control, but I don't understand why people keep saying that turning off images (the last option) stops you from being able to see emoticons.

That's just not true.

Several are using Firefox with 0 problems. I've even been installing various versions on both my XP rig and my Vista rig tonight to try to duplicate issues, but haven't encountered any.

I'm normally an IE user, but I generally have some version of Firefox installed on my computers for testing purposes with various sites.

This post was entered using Firefox 3.5.1 on Vista x64 with SP2. No addons loaded in Firefox. That's about the only thing I haven't looked at tonight in my testing is different addons.

I'm hoping the problems clear up for you or that someone can figure out the common link between those having trouble and get it resolved.