Texas Justice

Here's hoping.

EDIT: Looking at Sooner's page directly I don't see her Retweet. Of course, since my tweets are Protected I don't think anyone here can see them if they tried. /shrug

Well, I think all she did was add some text at the front after hitting the Retweet link but before hitting the Retweet button in the popup window. But I could be wrong.

Anyway, I'm hoping to hear something Soon™.

Since I have a PM waiting here on the forums I'd better check on it.

Yeah, that would be within the time frame.

I think there may be other problems going on with the Retweets though.

Thanks for that link Snow Globe. I don't see my retweet or Sooner's retweet.

However:



If you look at the Tweet Code Thursday tweet we were supposed to Retweet, it shows I retweeted it. Unfortunately, it doesn't show that I RT'd before I got Samuraiko's RT.

Seems to still have some issues to work out.

If you are following them and hit Retweet, you shouldn't have to add anything.

Remember however that there was a 10 minute window listed to have to Retweet it within. That's a pretty short time frame but understandable since they have to track all of the retweets and then manually send codes to each person that did the retweet.

Because the accounts and billing are differentiated as to EU and NA accounts.

I imagine that it would take a bit of work to figure out how to combine the different types of accounts without screwing something up and the billing problems would likely be a headache to configure as well.

If they'd set them up originally to not be separate types of accounts or separate billing systems it would likely be pretty easy to merge them.

They did say they'd be doing this until at least 4PM Pacific and possibly later, so there is still a possiblity.

There are some people that still will miss out, but it's a decent compromise.

Someone will always miss out due to work, sleep, internet being down, whatever.

You haven't been paying attention to what we've been told. Some of it we were told years ago, long before the current OCR team got here, but we attributed it to just this forum.

The industry average for players that sign up for the forums for that game is around 10%. The ones that frequently and actively participate on the forums is around 5%.

That's a measurable statistic and hasn't changed much over the years. They do what they can to try to drive people to the forums, but some just will not go for one reason or another.

So how do they reach that other 90% as well as potential customers? By using sites that those people may already be using such as Twitter, Facebook, G+, Twitch.TV, etc.

They have measurable statistics from those sites about the traffic they get on those sites. It's much higher than the measurable statistics for the traffic on the forums.

They also have ways of tracking who visits the account sign up page from clicking the links on the Facebook site and seeing what country that traffic is coming from, such as Brazil. They are seeing positive results from using those sites so of course they will continue to do so.

They often have links on their Facebook page and Twitter feed to either a forum article or a news article on the main CoH website. They can track where those hits are originating from and possibly what website they came through.

Not enough evidence to convince you? Okay, I'll give some personal examples.

I've been told we have one of the friendliest forum communities but I regularly see comments from people that think our community isn't that friendly. From what I've seen of other games' forums I'd have to agree that ours is relatively friendly. Some of the vitriol shown in this thread alone lets me see where some might not see our community as being so friendly.

In the early days of the game, I wasn't as active in posting as I am now. But I did read the forums pretty much daily. Some of the people I worked with also played CoH. Some of them would occasionally come to the forums to read something, but it was generally after I had already told them about it. Or they heard me laughing loudly about something and knew it was something on the forums that triggered it and wanted to see what it was but couldn't come look over my shoulder at the time. Very rarely would they post anything. Even rarer was it that they would visit the forums without me pushing them to read something specific. I've moved since then and so have a few of the people I worked with. I've talked to them and one admits to looking at the forums about once a month or less just to see what is going on, mostly just the Dev Digest, Community Digest and Announcements. But they see things on Twitter or Facebook and read it and will even click the links if it takes them to the forums or main website.

I've met a few people where I'm living now that play the game. Some of them are unwilling to come to the forums at all for various reasons. They'll occaisionally look at the main site, but not the forums.

Two of the girls I know are scared to death of the forums. It's not a discussion format they are comfortable with. But they are on Twitter and Facebook constantly, so they keep up with information that way. They are being engaged in a way that they wouldn't be on the forums.

Of course, knowing that I'm active on the forums and actually make trips to California to interact with the Devs they will often come to me if they have questions about something they've read. But no matter how much I try, I can't get them to come to the forums even just to read posts without logging in.

I've got another friend that won't come to the forums due to his experiences on other gaming forums. But his phone and iPad have Twitter and Facebook apps built in so he gets engaged through those sites. He'll follow a link to the main site for a news article, but won't follow a link to the forums. He'll ask me questions but won't come to the forums at all. He'll glance at the forums over my shoulder if he's around when I'm on them, but won't come here himself. But he can be engaged through sites he already goes to like Twitter and Facebook.

Another friend will sometimes read the forums but it is very rare that he'll ever post here. I think he has less than 50 posts here. But again, he's got Twitter and Facebook on his phone and iPad, so he keeps up with things there more than the forums. Most of what he looks at on the forums is due to something I told him.

Those are just a few of my personal experiences with people that they don't reach through the forums but do reach through social media sites that those people are already interacting with.

The world view on marketing is having to change to incorporate these social media sites and Paragon Studios is just trying to utilize all of the outlets that they have available to reach people. If you don't adapt to the changing marketplace and the outlets available to you to reach people, you wind up losing a chance to engage those that wouldn't be engaged otherwise.

Who is this Texas_Justice you speak of? Some of us live in a world where _ is not required.

That link says Paragon Studios, not Carbine.

EDIT: Really odd since Z said a short time ago that Carbine was doing WildStar. Can we blame the web team for this? Please?

I started to respond to this with anecdotal evidence from my days as a DJ, but then I remembered that they wouldn't necessarily be classed as "nice clubs".

This was as a DJ in clubs and as a radio DJ doing promotions, concerts and other events in local clubs.

The only people I don't recall being escorted out we're employees.

They've already said why they use those sites.

When you have numbers showing how many different people you are reaching through a site and they are higher than the numbers of different people on the forums, it only makes sense to use that site to help promote the game and interact with the public.

I've seen several players that have had questions answered (by CoH Staff or by players) on the Facebook page that have later started playing and buying things in the Paragon Market or actually subscribing.

Why would they not want to take advantage of reaching potential new customers in this manner?

Decisions like that aren't rocket surgery.

If we get confirmation of those things being in I24, I'll revise my percentages.

From the way they worded the comments about Graphics Customization for Power Pools, I don't expect the percentage to rise above 75%.

I'm old and getting slower. My reaction time isn't what it used to be.

My reaction time was never that great which is the cause for one of my main reasons for not liking PVP. Basically, I suck at it.

It was a little more than I expected from you, but not by much.

The level of awesome was consistent with what I've come to expect from you.

Sorry not to have said something earlier but my day got thrown off when the forums went down this morning unexpectedly.

I had a reply in mind at the time, but forgot all about it until I came back in a little bit ago.

Sounds like a rather fair plan, even if it will be more work for the OCR team.

It still leaves out those that cannot access Twitter during that time, but there will always be someone somewhere that cannot access it when you are doing this, no matter what time it is.

Thanks.

It wasn't the same code for everyone in the same region.

There was a database of static codes and the button merely grabbed a code from that database. There were codes valid for EU accounts and code valid for NA accounts.

Having gotten more than one code (helping someone else get one that couldn't access Facebook), I can guarantee they were not the same code for each region.

They've already said that there would be EU codes as well as NA codes for the Twitter giveaways.

Doubtful. Adric died and The Doctor refused to break the Laws of Time in order to go back and save him, even though it pained him.