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Since we have thread resurrection...Cabal, please ( ' ;

Pretty awesome, thank you ( ' :

Rhetorical question: Do you often find yourself making up excuses for your opinions? I sure don't....

No fooling, really ( ' : I merely stated that my scrapper or blaster will not follow a choke order because they can solo/near-solo a door. There's no special reasons/knowledge about managing a door that the leader has -- you can do it or you can't. Again, scope.

This goes back to that whole "you want to be desperately right" thing I mentioned. I opted to conclude things with an "okay", but you decided to come back for more, going outside of scope to reference sequestering of all things. I explained the scope and then fed you an opportunity
to gracefully conclude by suggesting maybe you didn't read my follow up before posting (because that happens). Considering how you came back once, expecting an "oh I see the scope of what you're talking about now" concluding reply was a bit silly; clearly you didn't take that and came back for more with this reply. More amusing, even though I said none of the other trials were as forgiving as BAF, you then opt to refer to an Underground trial of all things. As much as you contribute a lot of positive things to forums (positive feedback), this over-inflated sense of self-importance in making yourself heard comes across as unnecessary crusading (critical feedback). / ':

I think that smiley has made me a victim of guilt by association in your mind. Really, try re-reading it again with fresh eyes assuming no condescension. It really can be read that way (as intended) -- it was straight-forward advice....follow the orders and don't deviate without understanding the consequences. It doesn't get plainer (or less condescending) than that. ( ' :

/facepalm Rhetorical question: if you're so jaded running trials with the masses, then why don't you organize a group of knwledgeable regulars and run closed leagues?

That's only 1 reason and it's the most jaded one. Some people are ignorant (no shame in that); some don't focus on the chat window; some don't want to be ordered around; some see opportunities that the leader doesn't see; some recognize that the leader isn't doing all that much leading.

Edit: If you'd like to discuss further, feel free to pm me -- otherwise, this no longer addresses the OP.

You do realize the scope of this conversation is working the BAF escapees, right? And you selectively omit the last sentence, which goes "As a rule, do not consider deviating from orders until you know exactly what and why things happen the way they do -- they're there for a reason."

I know you desperately want to be right, but I'm not advocating the wholesale disregard of the leader's instructions. I understand where you come from in the first response as you probably had not read further, but the rest of these really just cast you in a very self-righteous light as well as create the perception that you have little faith in people's decision-making ability. They also contribute nothing to the OP's original observation, which was about why some people deviate from the choke point instruction.

Okay ( ' :

Keep reading the thread ( ' ;

Perfect! That's when my current sub runs out! ( ' :

Until that happens, it would be kind of nice to see another test server opened up and dedicated to the devs futzing with PvP.

EXACTLY. And to tie it back into the OP, when a League Leader gives the choke order without proviso, a good "soldier" knowing his capabilities (i.e. do good damage at the door) may seemingly ignore it to gain that tactical advantage. The danger, as rsclark mentioned, is fixating on the doors exclusively.

Also note, BAF is very forgiving in the sense that someone can disregard the leader's orders without jeopardizing everything -- that really cannot be said for any of the other trials. As a rule, do not consider deviating from orders until you know exactly what and why things happen the way they do -- they're there for a reason. ( ' :

Never cede the slightest tactical advantage to the enemy....you're giving the escapees a free pass and increase the risk of escape if an entire league sits at choke points exclusively. I'm not saying never use them, but there is intrinsic value in sending someone to the doors to at least begin damaging if not defeating the escapees.

Those look more like what I would expect gunslinger boots to look like ( ' ;

Sweeeeeet

Priceless.