Test_Rat

Originally Posted by Jibikao

I just found this from the Scrapper forum. I copied and pasted it here.

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The changes for Street Justice between Stalker and Scrapper/Tanker/Brute versions:

Instead of Assassin's Strike (which looks a bit weird to me, personally... like a dude flexing his muscles for a bit before swinging with a hook. Should look more like FALCON PUUUUNCH! imo), you get a quick knee to the ribs power. Can't remember what it's called... I think Vital Strike or Blow or something? I think it debuffs the enemy for a short time as well.

Build Up is called something else (Combat Awareness or Readiness or something that ends in "ness") and automatically gives you 3 combo points, so you can immediately open with one of the finishers instead of breaking up your attack chain for it. The Stalker version is just regular Build Up, but AS gives you multiple combo points when it lands (giving it a reason to be put it in a regular attack chain, even).

Placate is Confront, of course.

The tier 1, 2, 8 and the knee in the ribs power (t6?) all give one combo point to a max of 3 (or at least that's the highest I could build). The tier 3, tier 9 and maybe the tier 7 (which looks like an AoE from Ele's screenshot... I never got above level 3 while testing it) are all "finishers," which drop your combo points back to zero but add additional side effects and/or damage.
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Based on the info, I guess they just can't resist by putting "combo points" in Assassin Strike, which I was hoping they wouldn't do because Assassin Strike is one power that I rarely use after lvl 40s. T_T

I really just don't want any of the features tie to Assassin Strike.

Originally Posted by Obscure Blade

IIRC it was mentioned in another thread that BU acts like a triple combo, the max.

Originally Posted by Siolfir

Ninjitsu provides AoE defense, and does so much earlier than Super Reflexes - it's rolled into the Ranged Defense toggle. Yes, SR has more defense debuff resistance but the tradeoff for that is the uninterruptible click heal, Blinding Powder, and Caltrops provides more mitigation than Smoke Flash due to how much it messes with mob AI.

Just using SOs, I've found that Ninjitsu is as effective - if not moreso - than Super Reflexes, and once you mix in some defensive set bonuses Ninjitsu only gets better. SR is great for softcapping easily, but that's all it has going for it - which is a far cry from "beating [Ninjitsu] in every regard". If you try to survive by turning on all of your toggles and wailing away on attack buttons until you either kill everything or run out of end, then sure - you might feel that Super Reflexes is better. But that's because you're trying to play Ninjitsu as a set that it's not meant to be - you're supposed to use the additional powers to help you out.

By the way, using Blinding Powder (slottable 7.5% -tohit, even ignoring the Confuse and/or Sleep) provides you more effective defense than the passive 5.63% in SR until you get to mobs +3 levels to you (it's 6% at +2). Just some food for thought before you try to make some silly claims about one set "beating the other in every regard".

Originally Posted by Zem

Kind of sounds like you're talking about using AS outside of Hide. That's not really what I mean. Yeah, Elec or Spines *might* get some value out of that but it's a bad idea for pretty much anyone else. From Hide or after Placate however, it can't be beat for single-target DPA, provided it's not interrupted. So it will improve an ST chain if you can start with AS from Hide and/or follow Placate with AS.

I assume you don't use AS from Hide or Placate because you're one of those "AoE is everything" people. And what I'm saying is that yeah, AoE is great... except when it's irrelevant. And it's irrelevant when there's enough to kill minions and LTs but not bosses (unless the entire spawn is bosses or EBs or something, which does happen sometimes).

Originally Posted by Redlynne

Is Placate (still) suffering from the Debuff/DoT Bug which prevents aggro from being cleared? And if so ... does that mean that Placate is extremely broken in the presence of Incarnate Interface slotting?

Originally Posted by Zem

My post was poorly worded. I meant "some" other epics do not crit in or out of hide. The basic ST and AoE attack powers in the PPPs do crit. The two damage-dealing controls in the PPPs do NOT crit. NONE of the powers in any of APPs except for Blaze Mastery, can crit. Scrappers can crit with these APPs. Stalkers cannot.

Blaze Mastery is an exception to all of the above. ALL of its damage dealing powers, including the controls can crit in and out of Hide. And the AoE crits for full damage.

At least this is all according to City of Data which was updated fairly recently. I don't have personal experience with all of the PPP and APP sets for Stalkers.

Originally Posted by Microcosm

Ya, the base defense numbers are actually higher than /nin's (except for a slightly lower negative energy, and obviously the lack of psi). The complete lack of psi protection is one thing that will still worry me about the set. Oh, and the low hp cap

Originally Posted by CBeet

Hey bud, when enhanced Energize also has a 50% heal, as well as the regen and end discount.