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My guess would be this is the first step in fleshing out Praetoria into a full 1 - 50 experience. You need a 20 - 26 zone or so as the next step so I can see it.

Whats to not understand? Don't pay the subscription fee and you don't get full access to the game. Seems very simple.

And because they are nice if you want you can pay to gain some of that access back.

If you bought any of the retail packs you keep everything in the retail pack. The devs have already said that. Several times.

What has never been purchased expressly is any AT or Power Set. None of the expansions have explicitly stated that they unlocked any such. So they are free to restrict some of those to being unlocked.

Because you have clearly been a player for more than a month or two you will get some Paragon Reward Tokens. Zwilliger in this very thread has stated that you can spend some of those tokens to unlock AT's. So if you have a specific AT you want to unlock you can do so without spending extra money.


It is somewhere in that massive thread up in the announcement forum. And now I'm not going back through 2000+ posts looking for it. If you don't take my word for it that is fine, but it was mentioned that huge thread. ::shrug::

I call it like I see it. Basically some people don't want to pay any money but want to have all of the benefits of a paid monthly subscription.

That sure seems greedy to me. people are also complaining bitterly about not getting everything which sure sounds like whining to me.

From what I can see if your subscription ends before July 1 you will not not get the 400 a month bonus for july and each month until release.

You will get some unknown bonus Paragon Points for buying COH and any other expansions you may have purchased. That is fairly clear from things said by red names that they are going to do something like what LOTRO did where expansions and time subscribed etc give you extra Points to spend in the store at conversion.

You will only lose the 400/month for july onward.

It also looks like they will be awarding a number of Paragon Reward Tokens based on your number of months subscribed. So if you are a 12 month vet whose subscription runs out here in June then after the conversion you will likely have a minimum of 12 Paragon Reward Tokens you can spend even if you don't resubscribe. Though that will happen when I21 goes live.

I saw that. And changed my answer after I realized I answered the wrong question. Ah well just goes to show I'm humanoid.

1. No COH:Freedom is just another issue. Except that that issue will see the game change to the hybrid mode. But you don't have to pay for it.

2. All indications are that the subscription fee will be the same. Zwilliger has already said that if you have a current subscription it will become a VIP subscription with no change in price. [Though some people are still arguing that somehow that statement does indicate that the price will change. ::which logic makes my brain hurt::]

Yes they are fools for thinking that if they don't pay a subscription fee every month they will have access to the same things that they had before.

They are basically whining that they aren't going to be paying the monthly subscription but for some reason magically deserve everything that a paying customer has access to.

Oh and if they are continuing to pay their subscription fee than they have access to everything they had before and more. I'm not seeing the problem here aside from people greedily wanting it all for free.

I've noticed it is easy to miss BAF Team comments in the scroll on the screen. First it is that light green that just doesn't stand out and second there is all of that scroll.

VIP's get both Paragon Reward Tokens and Paragon Points.

Each month a VIP gets 400 Paragon Points added to their account.

Each month a VIP gets 1 or more Paragon Reward tokens that can be spend on what was Veteran rewards but will now be called Paragon Rewards.

So it is two different things.

Yes though you get a bit more than you think. First from your forum registration time you have played at least 4 years so presumably your a 4 year vet or close to it. That would give you 2 base slots + 4 Vet Slots. If you have purchased any slots you also have those available, and if you bought COV you have extra. But at the minimum you can unlock 6 characters to play for free if you drop back to premium.

From things the red names have said you will also have accumulated Paragon Reward Tokens based on subscription time. Again using the 4 year guess for you, you should be able to unlock Master Minds using those and have them available to play as a Premium player without spending any more.

They are purchased slots so if you downgrade to Premium I would expect them to directly convert into unlock tokens.

No Z the problem was that it wasn't in the form of an answer.

Why? per you scenerio you have been playing for years. This means you have some Paragon reward tokens to spend. Since Master Mind is so important to you and you sort of think you might let your subscription lapse to Premium level why wouldn't you unlock the MM AT first?

Nothing F'd up about it. Makes perfect sense. You want to play for free then you have to expect some limitations and compromises. The devs want to encourage you to pay your monthly subscription. So it makes perfect sense to require you to unlock some AT's if you didn't pay to unlock them either with Paragon Points or Paragon Reward tokens.

I'm fairly certain that any subscription option you see now will also be available when subscriptions turn into subscription VIP accounts.

All that stuff stays on the old server.

Mind you, you must actively move your characters to the VIP server yourself using character transfer tokens.

You will not be automatically moved to the VIP server. EVER!

No no, you make trainers you can summon 1 time that you sell in the store. That will let you make more money from the people who can't be bothered to leave.

You also need to stalk the red names around on announcement days. That is what the dev digest is useful for.

Ok, Free and Premium characters get 2 free character slots total. If they want more they have to buy them. That said any existing account that goes Premium will have some extra slots because that is 2 character slots + purchased/unlocked slots. So an existing account that goes Premium should likely have 1 or more extra slots available.

They have just started announcing things. That is why you don't see a detailed list of what Paragon Rewards will be available. Start worrying if we get closer to the proposed October release date and you still don't know what rewards are available.

Ah this fantasy. Afraid your in some parallel universe because COH:Freedom isn't going to give free Going Rogue to anyone.

Well yes you might want to buy power sets if you plan on dropping your subscription to Premium level. Otherwise you wouldn't need to.

Because you are going on in several spots where I have seen you seemingly annoyed, aggravated, not happy with the existence of the VIP server. Something that frankly since I never plan to play on it I'm not worried about the existence of.

perhaps I am misinterpreting your concern but that is how it comes across to me. This is probably just the artifact of the text based discussion where if I had verbal and body language cues I might have an entirely different impression of your concerns.

Sorry but no that isn't the impression I'm getting.

What I take away from the discussion and answers is that so long as you are actively VIP you have access to the new power sets.

If you drop your subscription level down to Premium then you will need to pay for access to the power sets. Even for characters you might have created while VIP. So you really only need to worry about paying for them if you plan on regularly dropping to premium.