TerraDraconis

Nah it is just that your memory is fuzzy and full of squirrels.

Actually it looks kind of like this.

Free Players get
* 2 slots

Premium players get
* 2 slots
* +1 slots per year subscribed VIP/PreVIP. Total actual subscribed time.
* +2 slots per expansion purchased
* + any slots purchased.

VIP Players get
* 12 slots per server unlocked for free up to 36 unlocked per server.
* + 1 slots per per year subscribed VIP/PreVIP.
* + 2 slots per expansion purchased
* + any slots purchased.

Ok, based on one of the examples in this thread I think it will be 2 tokens per expansion purchased. The example only mentions 2 expansions so I'm basing my deduction on that. Still I think that is accurate.

It makes sense when you think about it some of the expansions came with extra slots originally and some didn't. I expect that the simplest way to figure it was +2 tokens per expansion.

So we know of the following you should get.

* 2 tokens
* + 2 tokens per expansion
* + 1 token per year played.

Inside of instances. This game is almost entirely instanced. It has become easier over time to get ways to move around as well. So you don't see players standing around somewhere farming outdoor missions in the general zone instead they are all inside of missions playing.

Given that they want to encourage anyone who has tried the game to come back and play it I am expecting that this will never happen.

Your better off pushing for the unique name restriction being lifted. And letting say 100 people on the same server run around with the name Bob The Mighty if they want.

And yes I know some people don't like that but it is more likely to happen than a name purge.

Yes we assume because anything else that they could do for the number of slots on the VIP server would be stupid.

So yes based on the red name comments indicating that VIP's have a 12 unlocked slots per server that this includes the new VIP server.

Hi Samuel, you might want to check out Ghost Falcon's post in this very forum. He lays out that the 400 PP's = US$5.00 and gives some sample prices from the store.

Interestingly he points out that VIP's get the 400 points, 1 free server transfer, and free access to the signature mission arc a US$5.00 value.

So from what they have stated we will be getting 1 story arc a month released along with regular booster pack level stuff along with regular issue releases.

So for my money I think we will be seeing at least as much content as we get now and probably more content released than we have seen in the past. But that is just my take on it.

I fully expect powersets to be purchasable. ... For Premium and Free players. I also fully expect that VIP's have them unlocked while they are VIP.

My fuzzy memory says that was answered in the massive thread up in the announcement forum. Anyway as I remember it the points are awarded on your billing date.

I'm guessing that they put some of the feature unlocks in as automatic rewards given out based on time. IE you can pay to unlock something or if you expect to play for a long time there is no need to pay to unlock it.

Basically its just a bonus reward to players who have been subscribed for a long time. IE if they have managed to keep subscribed for 3 years than they have X unlocked for them for free if they have to drop down to Premium. The nifty rewards appear to be tied to the tokens while the rewards that link to things you could buy in the paragon store are linked to time accumulated.

You don't spend any of your PRT's to unlock the MM & Controller. They are automatically unlocked by you reaching Tier 5 of the Premium Reward Program. IE you accumulate enough months of being an active subscriber.

After COH:Freedom launches he will be confronted with 2 or more unlock tokens when he logs in the first time. You indicate that he has an existing account so he may have more than just the 2 tokens.

Anyway assuming that he only gets the 2 tokens he can pick any 2 characters he wants to unlock or he can unlock 2 empty slots on 1 or 2 servers. His remaining characters remain but are locked out of being able to be played until their slots are unlocked either by buying tokens or upgrading to VIP.

Again that is 2 tokens only not 2 per servers.

[In a fast low voice: Note that you will receive 1 extra token for each year that the account has been previously active. Note that purchases of certain expansions may give you additional tokens. Note that any already purchased tokens remain active and available for use by the player.]

That isn't what I take away from Positron's comments. He uses Tiers in reference to Paragon Reward Tokens. As in you achieve Tier 5 at around 3 years. Additionally he states that the unlocking of MM and Controllers happens automatically when you achieve Tier 5.

There is no indication that you will have to spend Tokens ever to achieve the tiers. Instead you get a tier for accumulating enough VIP months. Basically if I'm reading that aspect right it is very like the current Vet Reward except with different rewards.

I'm also guessing that much of the current rewards turn into things you can spend your PRT's on.

So from his 2 paragraph comment it looks as though the replacement for the Veteran Rewards Program has 2 aspects.

Aspect 1 - You earn 1 or more, though probably only 1, Paragon Reward Token for each month you are subscribed. Prepaying in advance awards you all of the tokens for your prepayment. These can be spent on various unknown at this time things.

Aspect 2 - Every so many months you earn a new Tier in the Paragon Rewards Program. Each Tier unlocks something. Tier 5 unlocks Master Minds and Controllers.

There may be more to the system or that may be it. We don't know yet but it is pretty safe to say that the 2 aspects I list above are definitely part of the new system.

Are you planning to drop your subscription?

If not you have nothing, zero, nada, zip to worry about.

Oh god I just flashed on that picture from drudge of the 65 year old guy wearing thigh high stockings, a bikini bottom and top, and a lacy shawl.

I need brain bleach.

Note: On reflection that isn't the worst I've seen. He doesn't have the body type to pull off the look but still it is ?tasteful? Anyway the people of walmart video has much worse in it.

Thats a good example. Even better because you can pay a flat one time fee to have access to the rock climbing wall and pool. Or you can keep your gym membership active for 3 years and have them credited to your account just as if you had paid extra to access them.

I like the gym comparison it works better.

That is how they look at it but it isn't how any online game has ever worked. Buying the game and paying your monthly subscription has only given you access. Much like a monthly lease on something.

The problem is that they haven't bought anything concrete but think that they have.

You are right that it is a conflict of vision in how things really work versus how they perceive it to work. And this conflict comes up every single time a game changes. Lots of people claiming rights based on the fact that they bought the game versus people comfortably telling them that no. They clearly have only purchased access and the owner [Paragon Studios] has every right to make what ever changes they want to.

Just look back every issue since issue 0 and you will see this conflict expectations appear.

To quote the question.

No I think they are clearly thinking you can some how drop from Premium to Free. Because VIP to Premium is clearly answered on the side by side chart from the website. Premium players can stay be members of a super group but can't create one.

Which means a confusion about what premium status is.

Just to be clear you are Free only if you have never ever spent a single cent tied to your account on anything COH related. If you spend anything at all even simply have bought the original game at some point and applied the install code then you are a Premium player for ever and ever and ever.

::Snicker::

Eh not bad questions though none are pressing and are things that are likely to be answered between now and COH:F's launch.

Unfortunately some have errors of logic in them such as asking what happens if you go from premium to free. Since you can't go from premium to free the question doesn't make any sense.

Yes I was glad to see this clarified, my impression had been that you had to spend tokens to unlock something like the MM and Positron clarified that just having around 3 years worth of tokens credited to your account would automatically unlock them.

That said I expect them to have the information about what is unlocked and how to be posted either in game or on their website. Much like you can look and see what the current veteran rewards are. I won't be expecting to see if for a few months from now though. Just say around the time COH:Freedom releases.

Your still not looking at this right.

NOW - You pay your subscription and you can play. If you don't pay your subscription you can't play.

FREEDOM - You pay your subscription you can play. If you don't pay your subscription you can play most thing but not everything. If you want to play some of the nifty extra things you got to lay down some cash.

So the lesson is pay your subscription and you get it all. Don't pay it and you don't get everything.