TehHippeh

Siphon speed is actually an unresistable slow, so it will even work on the hardened commandos. I am not sure if there are any other unresistable slows or controls out there, but if so, those would also function as we'd like

I know it is really nice to be able to at least slow one of those guys to a crawl every now and then to give people more time to gun them down. Go Kins!

Have to agree with you there. I think on the one successful one we did where we focused on the escape points and had none actually get out we got lucky - in the sense that a MM camped his pets and managed to mow down anyone who came around the other side of the building. We also had a mobile team covering this exit and the blasters were able to get the prisoners who did try the back door damaged to a point where we could get them before they escaped.

I really have done the BAFs so far pure PUG. I could not find a way to herd people, many of them new, to the 6 spawn points so I tried the exits. The score is one barely pass and one good pass. So probably not worth trying again.

But now I have seen the pic, and really, if you station at the exits you may see them too late, but you are in the same basic positions as the spawn points. You could divide up to north, south and east spawn sites. I just dunno if you can expect a PUG to take the time to study a pic before heading in.

I like what you laid out and I may have to see how that works out if I end up leading another one of these )(&!@# things.

My biggest problem has been the acid temp powers. Even with a team of 8 dropping to 7, we got all 10 acids (ignored the grenades since acid is more important IMO). However, we get up top, and 1-2 portals stay there, glowing and mocking us. Much typing in Bcast and league produces no results. Finally after half the courtyard is filled, someone says "what is molecular acid?"

*stab eyes*

BAF I find more fun simply because it saves typing the temp power instructions over and over. I ended up "leading" too many runs because no one else had done them and/or was unwilling to type.

Take three inspirations. Combine into Break Free. Continue to play game.

I will not disagree with you that this is bad design. However, I am not sure we can take this as definitely true.

In all the trials I played, the tanks and brutes held aggro, the ranged damage people killed stuff, and the buffers and debuffers did their thing. There wasn't this widespread uselessness or ragequitting present in both the failed and successful raids.

You do not need the new powers or level shifts to be successful. I ran several successful raids where no one had the shifts - and yes, via the TuT. You can't put taunt on auto and go have a smoke, but by no means are any of the new incarnate powers or shifts necessary to beat these raids.

Oh, and to add: this is not a "gear reset." My IO'd defender vastly outperforms other SO builds. Of course, I did +HP and +regen instead of +def. Defense buffs no longer mean untouchable, but this is by no means any kind of action to "make everyone be mediocre."

That is the approach I take when I have only 8 people. We did that today, and got all 10 acids. Twice.

Of course, nothing can help a team if, even after you get all 10, 2 portals remain open for most of the trial. Repeated calls in the channels to have people check their temp powers don't necessarily make that happen

I get it. We'll have to agree to disagree on whether this is a bad thing.

I'm not sure at all that the game is discouraging alts. If adding something extra to do at 50 is discouraging them, then the only encouragement was the lack of progression once you did hit 50.

Is a system you can't breeze through with 20 alts the same thing as discouraging their creation? I don't buy that.

Can't we allllllll just git aloooong?

I'm sorry Sam, but the Incarnate system is something to do with 50s. Probably not for YOU to do, but that is a choice, and really, you don't play the same game many other players do. You solo most of the time. You don't really touch inventions. You go out of your way to not repeat things. At one time that may have been a typical experience, but I would wager a good amount of money it is not any longer.

There are new trials. That is something new to do. And it is a new kind of teaming, with multiple teams of 8. That is new even if you are doing the same task. Just because there are not 10 arcs does not mean the whole system is a failure and constitutes nothing to do in reality.

I would much rather have 2 trials than wait another 6 months for them to be able to release 4. And I do want them to spend time on things like these trials instead of just more arcs. Why? I need mechanical differences to feel like I am doing something new. I need the game to play differently, not read differently.

Holy jeebus.

I can't believe you got through that many TFs without taking a spoon to your eyes. More power to you, but wow....

Interested in the drop rate? Head on over to:

http://boards.cityofheroes.com/showthread.php?t=244383

Unless I really have no idea what I'm writing, yes, that is exactly what I said/meant to convey in my post. People I know, send me a PM if I managed to write the exact oppostite of what I meant to convey.

I know how it can be tempting to fight back, and try not feel or look like a wuss if you think someone is calling you out, but....is it really that hard to walk away and use one of the other 8,000,000,000,000,000 doors in the zone? For **** sake, how many buildings in PI have a set of 2+ doors on them? Isn't there one directly across from those apartments? I think this boggles my mind more than them getting on your case for asking nicely to begin with. But then again, if they can't even kill the mobs they are trying to steal, me looking for some kind of logic seems kind of foolish

I have to agree with this one. Adding more exploration badges to existing zones is fairly high on my "fail-o-meter." What's more, don't the hazard zones still have a fog of war? Sending me on another lap of boomtown isn't going to make me appreciate that zone any more or make it a favorite street sweeping destination.

Explore badges are great if you like to read game lore...and that is about all. Do they get people to actually explore the game world? Maybe, but I would wager most players just use a guide or map pack and don't pay much attention to the surroundings as they jump around.

Minor note: I think any mob 20+ will drop tips even if gray. I am not sure less than 20 will do so. I seem to remember that from a post somewhere.

This does seem to be by design, as it was this way through all of the beta patches I can remember.

Unless something changed from beta, you get your inf and XP/debt repayment upon completion of the trial. The mobs aren't worth anything, but you do get the "normal" rewards when finished - at least some at any rate.

See here: http://boards.cityofheroes.com/showt...=221022&page=2

Or here:
http://boards.cityofheroes.com/showt...221063&page=18

Heh, I was talking to someone who was saying how easy this thing was and how they were disappointed. What they failed to mention is 10 heavies and all those nukes

I hope some teams try it without all the props, so people do not get a "15 minutes" expectation for this thing. Or worse, people refusing to do the trial unless everyone as a heavy, shivan, and nuke.

The walk power allowed you to stack all the buffs. It is probably the cause of removing the prompt.

I say we get rid of walk. Mystic Fortune is a lot more useful than that thing