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  1. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Scarlet Shocker View Post
    It took a marksman with an arrow to nail him, not some numpty with a lump of gravel.
    Maybe they're hitting us in the knee...?

  2. Quote:
    Originally Posted by GuyPerfect View Post
    Pebble Radial Final Judgement

    Ranged, Extreme WTF(Smashing), Recharge: Fast
    You, sir, just won the interwebs XD
  3. Ok. Which bright spark gave the civvies Up, up, down, down, left, right, left, right, B, A? Come on, own up!
  4. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Warkupo View Post
    I imagine it's for the same effect you get when you see the Comic Book titled 'BATMAN ISSUE WHATEVER; BATMAN DIES' and then you buy it cause' "holy @#$!, how did Batman die!?". You're spoiled a little, yeah, but you actually want to read the story more because it has a significant event taking place.

    I imagine that's what their aim was. For anyone who hasn't been playing the arcs, they might pick up this one because something significant is going to happen. That's the suspense. The mystery is what happens in the details.
    Hmn, I suppose that does actually raise a much more valid point there.

    Even so, those are announced from the get go. You can go 'Woh, what? That can't be right!' and then pick it up if you want to know.

    Here, though, it was a case of 'Who will Die?' and that was the question, the point; I was playing to find out who, to see the events unfold and was looking forward to the surprise. To have that change halfway through is something of a letdown, for me at least.
  5. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Venture View Post
    It's only five pages for me, and I only just found the thread.

    I don't understand why people are getting their panties in a wad over spoilers (again). Aside from the fact that you'd have to be an idiot to not realize the thread contained one, none of these characters were the slightest bit interesting when they were alive, so who really cares if they're going to die? There was no suspense in the arc either; you can make a case for any of the "surviving 8" to be the Designated Receiver so there's no point in getting invested in the story. It was practically a Random Events Plot anyway.

    The only real question is whether or not he will stay dead. It would be nice to think that he will, but given how often the devs have expressed pride at embracing "comic book reality" and given the absurd tweests like (e.g.) Calvin Scott's imaginary marriage, I'm not optimistic about how this will play out.
    Glad we have such cheery individuals around to let us all know our places.

    Also, it IS rather hard to ignore all the other threads going 'STATESMANS DEAD BY THE WAY!' in their titles no less.

    But then again I'm sure this is all obvious to your clearly brilliant mind.
  6. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Zwillinger View Post
    There's still plenty more suspense to be had in the remaining arcs .
    QR

    That's not the point. This has completely ruined what I assume is quite a big 'twist', or what would have been if it hadn't been totally spoilered.

    I mean, why? Why do this? Why could this not wait until the Episode was actually out? I didn't know WHO was going to cop it, I was enjoying the suspense, thinking with every episode it could be someone else. It was a great story.

    And now someone has just told me a major point that I didn't know and ruined the surprise. It's like a jerk at school running up and shouting out the ending to a popular new book (Harry Potter would be a good stand in example) and thus ruining it for everyone who didn't know.

    I didn't know and I didn't WANT to know until I ran into it in the story. Colour me incredibly disappointed with this. It's not a 'reveal' it's a spoiler.
  7. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Wing_Leader View Post
    I would also add:
    • More big tech/robotic options. The number of strictly spandexy options already far outweigh everything else in CoH today, which feels okay to me when being compared to, say, barbarian fashions, but given how many heroes and villains in the comics sport at least some bit of bulky tech/robotic gear, I don't think it would hurt to expand on that stuff even more. More stuff like the Enforcer Heavy set, for instance (helmet options seem especially lacking).
    • Jet/rocket packs as back options. I really like the Raptor Pack, but I'd like to see more of such things, turned into back costume options.
    • Boots/shoes that go to (only) calf-height. As it stands now you either get shoes that cover the feet, leaving the rest of the lower leg exposed, or you get full-length boots that go all the way to the knee (and above). Even the two variants on socks are either ankle-high or knee-high. There's currently nothing in between.
    • I will echo all the previous requests for masks and cowels that make the eye holes covered (and ideally colorable).
    Hell yes, Hell YES, yes and yes, to all the above respectively.
  8. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Captain-Electric View Post
    "What kind of food do you want?"

    "Some good food! Food that isn't terrible!"

    "Okay, but what kind of food? What exactly do you want?"

    "I already told you, good food!"

    "Sigh. Fine. You're getting mashed potatoes. Hope you like them."



    Something to keep in mind, "Better stuff pls" does not help the devs that much. Specific ideas do.
    Nope, wrong analogy

    A better analogy would be;

    "We'd like some good steak."
    "But you already have steak!"
    "Yes, steak that came from Bobs Cheapo Mart down the road. I'm talking steak that might have said 'Moo' within the past year or so, not 'sometime this century'."

    So, the steak is already there, yes. But it could be GOOD steak, not junk steak
  9. It's a lot simpler than some taking passive-aggressive digs at other perfectly viable sub-sections of the overall genre, thus causing people to get the wrong idea and make posts over-complicating the point and having arguments that they didn't need to have
  10. Quick post, because otherwise I'll cough oil on people, but...

    Sign me up for 'Son, I am REALLY disappoint' with the whole 'Who will die? Oh, don't worry, we'll TELL you before you can even play that mission!' thing. I'm sorry, that's rubbish. Like, really really rubbish. I wanted to find out FOR MYSELF. Not have some jerk in marketing ruin it early.

    Yes, some series/stories are designed with a fixed course. Harry Potter springs to mind, in that the author knew WELL ahead of anyone else, and had to be careful to hide things along the way, yet still having a story that, when you looked back at, you NOW had the knowledge to see the dots and thus join them up.

    Forcing people to know the finale early sucks, and sucks big.
  11. So, basically, what we ALL want is more spandex options that don't look terrible, like the current ones do.

    That's a lot simpler.
  12. ...who what now?

    If you are referring to that other thread, then no, that is NOT canon and we have no idea at the moment. Stop believing BS, it's bad for you.
  13. Yeah, second from last are decent examples. Or, I dunno, Beast from Xmen? Most of the alien Lanterns from Green Lantern?
  14. Made it easier to defeat tutorial Shivans...?
    I...what? People were finding that hard, or were they genuinely bugged or something?

    Just...eesh.
    Anyway, neat fixes for other stuff etc.
  15. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Johnny_Butane View Post
    To create an analogy:

    MLB Online. "The Worlds Most Popular Online Baseball Game".

    It's not pigeonholing to want the rules of baseball accurate and the popular teams represented in your baseball MMO before the developers add a full hotdog stand business sim to the game.

    Yes, hotdogs are sold at baseball games. No, baseball isn't about selling hotdogs.

    And asking for several new brands of hotdogs to be added to the game on the 'MLB Online' forums should get you laughed out on your butt. The fact that it doesn't and that the title has been co-opted by business sim players and the developers have pushed aside the baseball fans in favor of them, speaks volumes to the failure of "MLB Online" as a baseball game.
    That's a terrible analogy, actually, because CoH is not about just one thing. That's like saying Super Hero = ONLY a guy in spandex.

    That rules out;
    - Power armoured Heroes
    -Time Lost/Past/Future Heroes
    - Alternate Dimension Heroes
    - Barely Human Heroes
    - Alien Heroes

    And the list goes on.
    To use your analogy, CoH is about baseball, the drinks, the hotdogs, the people going, the people who watch it at home, the people who maintain the stands, the stands themsevles, the groundskeepers...etc etc.

    It is way, WAY more broad than just one facet of that.
  16. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Captain-Electric View Post
    I understand you have an axe to grind with the genre, but the purpose of this thread isn't to ask comic book fans to defend their preferences. Of all the forums in the world where a comic book fan should feel comfortable about their tastes, this ought to be among the finest. Please don't back us into the corner.

    You don't seem to be contributing anything constructive.
    Ok, one of my comments has been taken entirely the wrong way, it seems.
    I don't dislike Superhero and Villain stuff. I mean, would I *really* play this game if I didn't like them? I've picked up comics in the past, used to watch the original X-Men cartoon every time it was on TV, watched the sleugh of recent (and in most cases really rather good) Hero movies and loved them.

    But 'Superhero' stuff is NOT defined only as 'men and women in spandex with Typical backstories and characters'. Saying that the Superhero genre is ONLY stuff like Supes and Justice League and Avengers is what I was aiming the 'lame' at. Because it's also frankly untrue. Superhero is a much broader definition then that, and so it should be.
    Thankfully, the Devs also seem to see it that way, and are trying to give us the broadest range of stuff possible.


    Now, do the classical parts need some time and love? Hell yes. ALL the legacy parts are in dire need of attention but, sadly, Revamping in a timely manner is one of the areas where the Devs do lose points quite seriously. I men, it'd be nice to have the legacy parts as an option, but also have an option for spandex that doesn't just look like body-paint, for higher-res add-on parts and boots and gloves and...yeah.

    More options is good, is my point. Chopping out certain options entirely for not fitting certain peoples opinion is wrong.
  17. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Wing_Leader View Post
    Quite so. However, it is worth noting that WoW does not allow you to customize the look of your character to the point of making him look like Superman. If you could, and you did, you can very well imagine what the player population would think, say, and do about it.

    I suppose we all have our own notions of what constitutes a given genre, but as far as I'm concerned "superheroes" is not a synonym for "anything you can think of," because while superhero comics have featured just about anything and everything you can think of, it is nevertheless dominated by one particular aesthetic motif. You know what it is, so I won't repeat it. Anyone can defy that motif, to the extent to which the game allows it, but when a lot of people do that, the game world starts to lose its strong genre identity.

    All of this is a by-product of the flexibility inherent in the COH costume creator. It is both a boon and a curse. No other MMO genre has anything like it, and no other MMO genre suffers from such dilution of its core aesthetics as a result. Players of Aion can't make characters that look like Captain Jack Sparrow, no matter how much they may love the Disney movies, and by and large the Aion community is probably much appreciative of this fact. But I suppose that a dozen Captain Jack Sparrows could appear in Paragon City and nobody should find it the least bit odd since the superhero genre can, and is meant to, support any character ever thought of, and in any quantity, without so much as a questioning blink, right?
    You and me have VERY different opinions on whether this games is 'suffering' or not, then.

    WoW and Aion are 'High Fantasy' games. They are ONLY High Fantasy. That is a very narrow, very specific range in one genre.
    In a way, so are other 'CoH-a-like' games like DCO, because it is ONLY DC related stuff that goes.

    CoH is not any of that. It's 'Superhero/villain' and 'Comicbook'. That is not a narrow spectrum. That is an incredibly broad and diverse spectrum that allows players a massive creative range to do whatever they damn well want. You can make a character look and play how YOU, the player, want. You aren't dictated by having to have the Shoulder Pads of Buff or the Twingle Kicking Boots of +5 to make your character look how you want. There's a reason why CoH's CC is so widely acclaimed, and that's because it gives people freedom.

    Choice > Pigeonholing
  18. Quote:
    Originally Posted by BrandX View Post
    I think Wing and JB said it well enough. It's not that the genre can't support it, it's that it's being WAY to overdone.

    You say "Oh well, this is my concept!" Then everyone looks around and goes, "Yup. Just like the millions of others who think they're awesome, not really typical superhero genre, concepts!"

    Not saying I don't like a lot of those concepts. There are some really well done ones. But, I recall that time when all I saw when I looked around was vampire and werewolves, and that time it was all D&D style characters...you see those in mass quantities and as someone who came here for the superhero genre, you start to go "sigh"

    But it's no different than my complaints about shield (which is yes an awesome and fun set)...it's a very little used superhero powerset. There were better and more common sets that could of been done.

    If one thinks about it, Shield is so rare, why not give the webslinging power set a go, since it's just as common, if not maybe just a little more common.
    'Typical Supherhero Genre concepts'? Really?

    How many times can you do 'Fell in a vat of chemicals' or 'rich playboy with tons of money and a genius mind' or 'alien defender of justice come to the Earth' before it gets old and stale as hell?

    Heck, they even cross titles freaking easy. Tony Stark, Bruce Wayne. Only differences are one had his parents murdered and hides his identity while the other is a big profile name with a slightly more buff suit.
    BOTH are insanely rich, BOTH have genius level intellect and BOTH fight crime.

    If we're going for only 'typical' superhero backgrounds, pieces, zones, STUFF, then CoH would get so immensely boring so fast. By all accounts DCO went for the 'typical' approach and sucked for it. Zones include city, city and....more city.

    This ALL comes down to opinion, and the other side is trying to foist their opinion as the 'right' one.
    To which my response is 'Not on your damn nelly'.
  19. Like I said. Idiot Ball. Serious case thereof.

    I'm going to bed, before I have to vomit oil on some foolish fleshlings.
  20. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Coyote_Seven View Post
    Indeed. Besides, I certainly wouldn't wanna be the one to go up to War Witch and tell her she's doing it wrong.
    Pft, forget War Witch, someone want to try telling Infernal he's 'in the wrong game'?
  21. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Coyote_Seven View Post
    They all forgot that the Circle of Thorns was a group that's been with this game since the beginning; a group of sorcerers and magic users dressed up like they were going to some D&D cosplay (or maybe a heavy metal concert...). By their own words, that group is incongruous with the entire notion of superheroes and therefore should have never been included!

    Oh yeah, and all those demons you run into, especially villainside. And Dark Astoria. Seriously.
    Yup. Oh, and the Midnighters, can't have all that magic running around ruining things.
    Oop, better get rid of Cimerora, that's all swords and monsters, right?
    Croatoa, can't have witches and mythical creatures and redcaps and-

    Yeah. Someone, please, drop the idiot ball already.
  22. Quote:
    Originally Posted by BrandX View Post
    Obviously you need some reading comprehension classes. Not what he said. He said more along the lines, "Totally came to the wrong game, if you think that's lame."

    That's exactly what CoH was created to be.
    I think spandex being the 'only' valid Superhero outfit to be Lame.
    I find being told having Heroes in Power Armour, in uniform, wearing biker leathers, being a robot is all 'wrong' somehow to be Lame.
    I find the overall patronising wording of these replies to be Lame.

    Need I go on?

    Edit: What CoH was originally created to be is mostly irrelevant. What it IS now is important. Because, frankly, what it WAS was Jack's little pet project domain where what he said was Law and everyone had to damn well like it. Not so these days...Thankfully.