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Quote:Hmn, bankrupt...owait, they still have all our damn money...Originally Posted by Demobot
Bankrupt governments tend to do a poor job of providing welfare.
And speaking of tangents, I think Lulipop is on drugs.
Believe me, our government can ALL go find a nice deep hole to go fall into. They're all crooks and thieves, and we'd be better off rid of all of them so some new, young bloods could get in. People with new ideas and that rarest of super powers; common sense.
(And then they'd probably all end up as bad as the last lot, because Politicians it seems are, by default, scumbags. Buuuut I can dream, right?) -
Quote:Heh, this proves you are just stringing people along, now.Originally Posted by dugfromthearth
You misunderstand, which is no doubt my fault.
Of course every team needs damage, but every AT has it. If you have a team of 8 different AT's you have a team with 8 characters that do damage.
It is incredibly rare that anyone asks for or even considers that they need more damage on a team. It is just there.
I should also point out that desirability low does not mean that no one will play with them, but that no one asks for them or is excited to get them. No one ever says "great, we got a scrapper on the team" and means it. They will play with a scrapper on the team, but they were not wanting one.
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Quote:Originally Posted by Psychoti
What about coprolite?
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Quote:Ahh...England. Where the Government seems more concerned with the budget and their own wallets than the welfare of it's people...Originally Posted by Durakken
The reason that government is so bad today is because we're so far removed from the protection/aggression forms that a lot of stuff gets wonky and also because people and groups have agendas that are hidden that don't understand that mutual progress results in greater mutual happiness and/or they don't care and just want power.
the latter group is really the most dangerous people because they don't really care as long as people bow to them which results in them corrupting and destroying the foundations because all they want is something that will never happen for them because their priorities is the power and not the responsibility that comes with it.
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Quote:No, but I'd happily wager that it's a blooming big tech hurdle. Otherwise, why would Shield Charge and Lightning Rod still be targeted Teleports, rather than 'on target' teleports?Originally Posted by Twigman
1) Do you know how hard it would be to implement a TP to target code? No? really? I don't either ... so we can just go with you don't like the concept?
I'm indifferent to the concept. I don't see it as a bad thing, nor is it something I'd give souls for. But that doesn't really matter; you can wish technical problems away as much as you want, that won't make them vanish. -
Quote:I really, really wish that was true. Honestly.Originally Posted by Durakken
ie government is an extension of morality and ethics which are simply a method for trying to live together in groups while creating the most happiness, more or less.
But it's not. Not the way it is at the moment. -
Not happening, for so many reasons.
1) Afaik, Teleports so far can only work with a Targetted AoE, not an 'On Target' AoE. I.e. like Shield Charge works now. So trying to make it an 'On Target' teleport set is mechanically impossible.
2) Throws. For the animations to not look utterly silly/broken/godawful you'd need direct interaction between two character models. Again, impossible with this engine and current code, as far as we've been told.
3) Boring. The power names would never make it through. You can't have a whole set of powers with duplicate names, not least because it would confuse the game itself something awful.
All in all, it's simply one mechanical hurdle after another. And not small ones, either. -
Edit: NVM, had the wrong address for some reason. Didn't realise it had changed.
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England might be bad about now...
But I'm STILL glad I don't live in the States >_> -
Quote:What about coal?Originally Posted by PleaseRecycle
What if he's "dug from the 'arth," as in, the hearth? This could represent anything from a burning ember to a thick layer of creosote. Perhaps a wedding ring, cast into the fire in a fit of passion, later recovered with a melancholy sigh.
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Hmn. Well played, sir. That actually stands up to scrutiny better than I thought XD
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Flight/teleport for sure.
And Invulnerability would be tempting. Ending all wars and all that...
What? Just because I'm a villain, huh?
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Quote:What do destruction of the environment and slaughter of the natives and destruction of culture represent in that analogy?Originally Posted by Durakken
Anonymous is one of the reasons there needs to be a cyber police agency working under a mandate set by a governing body for the internet. A perfect(or mostly perfect) analogy for what I see on the internet is the colonization, expansion, and revolution of the US. The US government found Cyber Space. There was a mass amount of people that colonized the new space and in doing so it has become impossible to govern through the normal government because the US government doesn't understand the conditions the colonists live under and while there may be agencies (like the US Cyber Police) that try to police the internet they are working under a broken mandate and in a very small territory. This means that the rest of the Internet is working more the West. Each Site has their own codes and mandates that people follow while you then have a group like Anonymous who while shouting freedom, wield guns, hurt people, and steal from people, and while they may be said to do some good because they are largely focusing on those who they don't agree with, towns that are imposing some restrictions or Fortresses created by the British (US government) they do these harmful things and violate their own "it's all about freedom."
In the end this whole "we're all about freedom" thing is nonsense because if you impose your will on a person (a site in this case) that has made a decision so that they will stop that decision then you are not about freedom. You are a tyrannical group that can and should not abide.
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Quote:Wow. What a total numpty.Originally Posted by Gangrel_EU
And to just further everything along a little bit:
This is what the MPAA says about politicians who take their money
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You take our money, you do what we tell you do; or we will destroy you.
Yeah, democracy at its finest (and the UK is going a similar way as well >.<)
Oh, and Lullipop? You sound like a zealot. You know, one of those deeply disturbing, 'golden smiley' level 'right against all the odds forever' kind of people who sounds like they are on more stuff than Charlie Sheen on his birthday. Just pointing how it comes across to Joe average, -
It's not going happen. You can't force people to go where they don't want to go. If you do, they'll quit. It's that simple.
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I'll let Prime field this one;
And someone else;
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Quote:Heh, true dat. And IBTLOriginally Posted by BrandX
And it was right! Totally seen as a "Get rid of Jack references" idea!
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I don't think it's insignificant that, based on personal use and observation of player comments, far more people take Shield and WP god-modes and use them a LOT, compared to the majority who seem to not even bother taking stuff like Unstoppable and Elude. I know I don't, and most of the people I play with are the same.
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That [PANCAKE] piece of [PANCAKE] email system...
/Signed. /Signed so damn hard that it'd take Chuck Norris to sign this any harder... -
"Beep! Die Emo Vermin-Gloop! Come To Catbot!" *dakkadakka*
Awesome
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Agreed, Sylph.
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Quote:^ This.Originally Posted by RuthlessSamael
Wow, I can't believe I even have to point out the difference between people avoiding content they don't like and people who are locked out of content because the game will not let them access it due to other choices. The only content people are "locked out of" is the other side's tutorials and Praetorian missions for non-Praetorians, I believe (I don't think Praetorian missions are accessible through Ouroboros, I could be wrong).
And, of course, certain content is locked to VIP players or specific purchases, but Paragon has to stay in business somehow.
Personal choice =/= being actually locked out.
Personally, I'd MUCH rather have content that everyone could play, where they used the new dialogue tech to actually detect what origin players were and commenting on that, or making missions have (vague, non tampering) origin flavoured twists.
Also, that avoids the danger which the original lowbie Hero origin specific missions fell into (besides the fact they were old, bad and badly written) in that doing the same thing over and over for characters gets really. Damn. Dull.
Variety is good, but only when it's done right. -
Characters, chars, toons...all have the same meaning. Some people are picky about which they use but, eh, whatever
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Quote:Originally Posted by Shadowe
So that bit that says "the only way to gain power beyond 'normal' superhero levels is to draw it from the well" is wrong and not canon? Wow, I seriously misread Ramiel's arc.Actually, from the sounds of it, Ramiel DID balls up quite badly with his description of the well. Or they haven't gone back and fixed him yet.Quote:Originally Posted by Shadowe
Ah, so because one aspect of my message was mildly incorrect, the rest of it can be dismissed? How typical.
Sylph posted on the Beta boards what is gatherable from various story sources now;
So...the Well is just a representative of the combined potential of -race X-. Which leaves lots of room for characters that circumvent that, embrace it, work partially with it or it's just not applicable to.Quote:* The Well of the Furies is not unique. It is an amalgamation that represents the Force of Human Potential that manifests itself in the form of a spring, which was a representation of a resource and of relief to primitive humans. However, every race has their own version of the Well, supplying and absorbing their own respective Potentials in a continuous cycle. The Kheldians' equivalent is a perfect sphere of energy that represents their idealized form.
* The Well's personality and ambitions change with time, and it enters periods of hibernation that can last for centuries. Every time it wakes up, its personality manifests differently based on the collective psyche of humanity in that era. In the current era, the Well craves and rewards those who seek power. Part of this is to survive against the Battalion but also because of how humanity has changed.
* The Furies are not direct servants to the Well. There is no hierarchy between the two as the Furies have their own ideas and schemes. They were some of the first Incarnates ever created, representing ideals that the Well favored at the time. The Furies disagree with the Well's current methods due to its change in personality following its recent awakening and are acting independently of the Well. In other words - their power comes from the Well but they are not an integrated grouping. Also, Prometheus says the Furies do not appear as twisted monsters, unlike their servants.
* Prometheus is part of an organization (he does not define this as a Race, as I recall) that monitors Forces of Potential like the Well of the Furies and can lead members of a race towards drawing more strength from their Force of Potential... or surpass it.
* The Battalion are a race of Incarnates that have direct contact with their Force of Potential, allowing them to capture and feed the Forces of Potential belonging to other races to their own. This allows them to strip other races of their collective Potential and increase their own while leaving their defeated enemies as slaves with almost no ability remaining to resist. According to Prometheus, nearly a dozen races have already fallen to the Battalion to date.
* There is a level beyond the Incarnate, in which an individual breaks free from their race's Force of Potential and becomes one unto themselves, wielding truly god-like powers. However, a being capable of doing so represents a massive portion of their race's own Potential and breaking free dramatically weakens their race's Force of Potential has a whole. In addition, Prometheus refuses to grant you the ability to achieve this level of power so long as the Battalion exists for this very reason, but also because he fears that if you are defeated then the Battalion's power will grow exponentially more than it has already. He also threatens to kill you if you attempt to reach this power and become a "rogue" Force of Potential. A separate branch of that same conversation reveals that he is privy to the idea of helping you ascend if you do manage to beat the Battalion with your current power as an Incarnate, however.
* Rularuu is one such being that has become its own Force of Potential. While this part is not elaborated upon, I suspect his mission is not unlike the Battalion as he consumes whole worlds - possibly stealing the potential of all beings residing in them by consuming their Forces of Potential in the process. What Prometheus does confirm is that Rularuu is a rogue - a Force of Potential that is outside of their organization's observational control.
* Twilight's Sun survived a future where the Kheldian's Force of Potential was consumed by linking himself to the Well of the Furies (Humanity's Force of Potential) to regain his lost powers. -
I think you're over thinking it, Sam.
The Well is a personification, way I see it. It's representative of Humanity. It's kind of like a mirror, at least it seems to be.
So, for Star, there's no need to tie her into the Well, much the same way as I'm not tying Alpha or the Chief. Alpha is a construct, a robot. As such he doesn't think in the same way humans do, doesn't have the same inherent limits. In a way, he doesn't have any barriers; he'll just steadily keep getting better and better. Ditto for the Chief, especially since he wasn't made on Earth.
The Primal Earth Well is purely a representative. It doesn't have to grant power, not the way it seems now. So even though the visible, semi-sentient part may be a bit bonkers at present, that doesn't stop people drawing on the 'Font of Potential' of Earth or the Human race. It seems like an enabler, something to break down the barriers humans have inherently. So, even characters that don't draw on it directly can still interact with the effects it has on the world.
Lord that sounded rambly. Hope it made some sense XD