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Quote:Well...
If I had to break my own rules and give broad general motivations, I'd break them down like this:
Personal gain: Be this money, power, influence, fame or eternal life, your goal is to get something for yourself. The evil you do is a means to that particular end.
Misguided idealism: Whether you want to save everyone, purge everyone, control everyone or what have you, you perform evil deeds because you honestly believe it's the right thing to do. Whether you recognise that what you're doing is bad or believe it's actually good, you do this because you must.
Megalomania: You believe you're better than everyone else and, naturally, deserve better than everyone else. The evil you do, you do because other people simply don't matter, so if you end up hurting them... Well, who cares?
Higher purpose: You do what you do not because you want to, but because that's simply what you have to do. Your actions are out of your hands, you have been chosen for this. You don't see any evil you do as your responsibility, because you really feel you have no choice.
Pure malice: You like to see people suffer, you like to see good things destroyed, and sometimes, you just like being bad. You do evil because that's simply what you enjoy.
Kicks and giggles: Maybe you're bored, maybe you enjoy a challenge or maybe you just enjoy fighting. You do evil not because you necessarily want to be evil or even because there's anything to gain, but just for your own personal entertainment.
Revenge: At some point, somebody did something to you that you cannot forgive, and have now devoted your life to exacting brutal, unfair revenge. And not necessarily just against the people who wronged you.
Alpha has kinda been sidelined for now, but he mostly fitted into the 'Personal gain' and 'Me and my friends for the win' kind of band. If you didn't mess with him, people he liked, stuff he owned or stuff he wanted to get his hands on, he'd mostly leave you alone.
As for my more recent and better defined characters;
Umbral Nightwalker
A mixture of misguided idealism and higher purpose. A very old Nictus scientist who saw his initial experiments (which were developed around the same time as the big name Nictus stuff) as exploration and trying to push the boundaries of life and death. He also sees the Peacebringers as backwards zealots who cling to a way of life that is antiquated and unfulfilling (especially given he and his colleague were nearly killed by Peacebringers). He wants to push the Nictus to the 'next stage' of evolution, turning them from what he views as parasites into beings who do not need hosts to absorb power and enjoy what is essentially immortality. His thinking is just totally alien; humans would call him immoral, while he simply doesn't think the same way they do. Come quite close to 'Evil Villain'.
Operative King
King pretty much fits into Megalomania, the special Arachnos brand kind. She was picked up as an orphan by a Special Sciences team, who took in the albinistic girl as on of their own. She survived against the odds, and began clawing her way up the Arachnos ladder, displacing or outright killing anyone who got in her way. She fully embraces the kill or be killed mentality, and has no regrets about what she is. As far as she's concerned, mercy, trust and weakness are for lesser humans and inhumans. All that matters is strength and your place. She's definitely my true-blue Evil Villain.
Caesar the Troll
Caesar is all about business. One of the few trolls with muscle AND a fully working brain, Caesar exploits that to his advantage by running his own mafia operations out of Oakes and Martial, cracking Family skulls and hiring up some of the smarter Trolls and working on turning them into something better than dumb muscle; smart muscle.
He's mostly just in it for power an money. He's not a bad guy, per se, and definitely classifies as a Rogue. It's just...business.
Wyld Fire
Wyldy is in it for number 1; Her! If you get on her good side, she's nice enough. If she likes you she can be protective, generous and quite the part animal.
She also has no qualms about charring people who get on her bad side into little more than a scorched outline on the wall. Being a low-ranking Hellion member/girlfriend made sure any traces of mercy were beaten out of her early on, as did nearly winding up as a sacrifice herself. Until she twisted the deal so she got the powers, in exchange for a thousand souls by midnight. The fact she fulfilled that bargain in one day goes to show just how much people need to avoid her wyld side.
Lord DeFeurard
Lord Leon DeFeurard is handsome, charming and very well off. He's also a vampire.
Leon's been around since British Medieval times, born into the blood rather than brought in. He's seen a lot, done a lot and been to a lot of places...and he's not grown bored of that yet.
Leon is, again, not a bad sort. He just tends to find rules and laws rather boring. He's more of a Rogue for certain. He's also made a hobby out of keeping the other undead in the Isles in-line, and can be a really magnificent bastiche when he wants to be. -
Please, PLEASE yes! /Signed until it breaks the keyboard...with my FACE!
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Wow...That's a bit....backward? Like, much?
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Quote:Uh...the Well doesn't work like that.Actually, the characterization for the Well is, IMO, what I'd expect of something that rewards power to those it deems mostly worthy to wield it. When you've got -that- much strength and ability....well, I'll paraphrase two quotes from two of my favorite authors: "When you have phenomenal cosmic power and all the living space you can grab, seeing-things-from-the-other-fellow's point of view and self-introspection aren't usually high on your list."
'Sides, it's historically accurate, too. Look at all the Greek gods the Well links folks to. For the majority of them, the phrase 'emotional stability' couldn't be used with a straight face (or any face, lest they heard you talking about them and decided to turn you into something. Like a tree. Or an animal. Or dead.).
Talking to Prometheus and various Dev comments shows the well is basically a personification of 'true human potential'. Anyone tapping into that power is basically breaking down the normal barriers and reaching their full potential, no matter the source.
The Well's 'personality' is also based off of what people believe and think, hence it's shift from, say, Greek times to modern day. Given how loopy modern day can be, it's actually a far better reason for why the Well is a little bit fruit loopy.
It's also not unique. A 'Well' exists for every species in the known universe. Which is why, apparently, the Battalion are so powerful; they conquer other races, and feed the power of their Wells to their own. They are essentially a race of full Incarnates.
I admit, looking back at the newer writing the Well lore doesn't sit as badly as it used to. How important clarity is, eh? -
Quote:Difference is, all the old news articles fit perfectly into the game lore.But you say that about everything :P
Personally, I quite liked Dr Brainstorm, as it was an (at the time) rare example of applying an in game reason for a purely mechanical change.
Given that we used to get articles like the history of the red and green lines, the ferries and so forth written as Paragon Press news articles, and designed to *look* like newpaper articles, then after a long gap in the production of that stuff, anything was welcome, so far as I was concerned.
And as always with CoH, if it doesn't fit with *your* view of the game world, then just ignore it.
Brainstorm didn't. That was a case of mechanics not needing an in game explanation. Just assume that those powers had been there and carry on regardless.
Brainstorm was a case of not so much breaking the Fourth Wall as taking it down with a wrecking ball and then scrawling graffiti all over it in neon colours. The phrase 'pants on head' springs to mind -
Quote:I think VG Cats already established that.
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http://wiki.teamfortress.com/wiki/So...omeone_Special
Is it just me...or does that seem...like...it...the. It. I.
Wut.
tl;dr version. $99.99 / £69.99 / 74.99 'wedding ring' item for TF2. My brain asplode. -
Quote:Oh, gods, THIS. Worst. Writing. EVER. >_<that's not worse then Dr Brainstorm
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I find the suits are the hard part, in that getting them to spawn can sometimes being a problem.
Then again...not had a Rikti attack in ages. So...XD -
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But how else can they get people addicted to card flipping, and make moar money by them having to buy packs and packs alone to get the costume and wolf pet?
The Packs are a cash cow. Nothing more. I, sadly, don't see them compromising on thatCall me jaded. I'd still love to see the costume set offered in a bundle, even though I got lucky in the 24 pack I bought and got all the pieces.
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Huh, a Transformers film, eh? First since '86...
Seriously. Bay's trilogy were fairly decent action/splosion films without much brain. First was so-so, second was a smidge better, third felt best even though it was still a little derpy and daft in continuity.
But he's not made any Transformers films. Not yet.
They really need to get the guys and gals from High Moon studios on board to make it good. The peeps who are responsible for the ever so good War for Cybertron and upcoming Fall og Cybertron games, which were pretty damn spot on when it comes to canon, or at least respect for it. -
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Hello, ladies. Look at your question, now back to me, now back at your question, now back to me. Sadly, it doesn't make sense, but if you looked at the poster you quoted and applied past examples and a smidgen of logic it could make sense.
Look down, back up, where are you? You're on a blimp, with the man who could make it all make sense. What's in your hand, back at me. I have it, it's a note saying "It's Golden Girl, what do you think?" Look again, the note is now a facepalm image. Anything is possible on the internet where smilies run wild. I'm on a Nemesis Steam-horse. -
Quote:I had points left over from buying other stuff (Costume slots, enhancement trays, yada yada) and, judging from the reports of other posters who got the 24 bundle stuff, of close to, I figured it was worth the risk. I was right.
Fixed that for you.
Dude, your principles only lasted 35 minutes! I say this mostly to tease, but partly to show why I think a phrase like "on principle" ought to be reserved for matters of greater significance to begin with.
Subsequent posters have delved into this question more than I wish to (I hate arguing on the Internet). My personal opinion is that this isn't about the costume set's merits. It's about the amount of money on CoH: Freedom's real, actual price tag. You're talking about the trees, I'm talking about the forest. The two big factors here are, (1) They've got to find ways to encourage us to pay the full amount on that price tag, or the consequence is having resources taken away. And, (2) No one but Paragon Studios knows exactly what that price tag says.
If they slapped the full amount of that price tag solely onto the Elemental Costume set, trust me, you couldn't afford it.
That still doesn't detract from the point that I'm not buying anymore. That's it. That's the one off shot they had. So good luck to 'em.
And that last part is just BS, pure and simple. There are many ways to make money that are simple and transparent. Like, I dunno, putting costume parts in bundles with a fixed price that players have SAID they are willing to pay, rather than forcing them to take a chance?
My principles also factor in risks and evidence. So fething sue me. -
Then do what I do and put her on ignore and kindly stop quoting her since that defeats the entire point of ignore, you feth wit!
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I did pony up for a 24 pack bundle, but only because I had points spare from my initial binge when the market hit live.
I did get all the Costume parts, which is what I was after.
HOWEVER...I do not and will not approve of costumes being locked behind methods such as this. No. Just no.
There needs to be an alternative. If people would happily plunk down 400 points for the set, so LET them. More options is GOOD, less options is BAD. -
Quote:According to lore, the ancient Greek 'gods' were actually some of the earlier Incarnates.
a god trying to figure out mortals actually does sound fun, a diety of anthropology...
tbh the phenomenal cosmic power bit is what i see seperates the god from the meta/incarnate .. Zeus' lighting bolt is way zappy-er than any Elec blasters, or Thor's hammer vs may War mace ... the only issue is when someone claims that their god is every single power at cosmic levels.
Personally, I think there are way more more-interesting characters that can be made that don't rely on 'being a god' as their schitck. It's something of a one trick pony, t'be honest, and a bit of a boring one at that.