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Basically, it boils down to Energy being;
1) Quite slow
2) Having one AoE attack which is pretty naff numbers wise.

Both of the top tier powers are ST attacks with very long windups. Total Focus is only of much use soloing or fighting Boss class and higher in teams. Ditto for ET. Thunder Strike, being an AoE, will still hit *something*, unless the team wipes out the entire mob in one-two shots.

Triform. Allllways Triform, especially since they finally made the transformations instant.

Run in, Eclipse, Mire, Dwarf form, Mire again, Human form, Nuke, Stygian Circle, Corpse Bomb (It is, shut up! ) and then summon fluffy.

Sure, it's not up every mob, and having to Eclipse every mob would be a pain, but by the time you hit level 38-40 with Eclipse, you're pretty unstoppable, and that's just on decent SO slotting. Yes, it's a late bloomer, but when you start getting into iSlots and IOs? Nictus ftw

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*Looks at his non-purpled Nictus who eats x8 spawns by default*

Dechs, I think there are people in need of tutoring in the way of the **-ing Warshade

In that case, I think Ouro is a pretty safe place to put them, thanks to the level gate. And, y'know, the whole point of Ouro (at least mechanics wise) is to replay stuff you missed. Like Bank missions, for the badges.

I, for one, am less fussed about the generic radio missions themselves. Yes, being able to play in zones other than GV/PI would be nice, but then again there is still a lot of other stuff that fills that and, frankly, I tend to play with friends who RP anyway, so the missions tend to be whatever we damn well want them to be, at any level range

But having the bank missions, especially red side, in Ouro would be nice. And also not farmable from level 1.


Yeah, I guess I nearly never see that, due to aforementioned teaming with friends with the sole exceptions of DfB for my newest characters and iTrials, where you need that many randomers. I can 100% see why that would begin to grate very quickly, though.

You need to play on Union sometime then

My point is, why can they not put the costume, at the very least, as a separate pack AS WELL? Then everyone wins. Money is still passed over for content, which can then go into more development. WHY is this such a big PANCAKING issue for people to get?

Speak for yourself, because, frankly, I know a lot of people who WOULD give quite a large damn on Union. Just because you don't like it doesn't mean everyone else is in the same boat.

That argument still doesn't hold up though. Council or Family farming in PI. RWZ farming. None of those have the penalties AE does. Most people, however, prefer to play varied content solo or with friends, except in certain cases (I know me and some friends have run RWZ to get new characters up to 22 or close to, since I for one find pre-SOs mind-numbingly annoying/boring having done it so many times)


That was the reasoning, as I understood, for asking for the Bank missions in Ouro. That way you can 1) get the badges you may have outlevelled without having to beg around for a lowbie team and, 2) have to be the pre-requisite level to get into Ouro anyway. If there's a downside there, I can't see one

To add, nothing personal in this. If I'm come across as abrasive or overly whatever...well, not the intended point. I blame the terribad medium of the interwebs

So, yes, Ouro got mentioned later. I am very much in favour of this suggestion, especially Redside, because there are badges related to an accolade there that, otherwise, is a hassle to get if you happen to have out-levelled the zones.

If anything, this suggestion is a benefit for those that DO go out and play the 'regular' content. Which, if I'm correct, is one of your main points, yes?

Oh, I wonder why that is?

Hmm, maybe because there IS no other way of getting these parts!
Self fulfilling baloney prophecy, much?

I seem to be talking to a brick wall.

Players would not 'be able', they already ARE able to do this.

Do you see the game crashing down around us? Everyone ONLY farming in three zones? No? That's because the people who are content to grind and farm are a relatively small number, while everyone else is out playing the game THEIR way. Savvy?



You seem to underestimate the natural capacity of gamers to find the most efficient way in anything. Fire farms, next question.


You also seem to underestimate the tenacity of hardcore grinders and farmers.


This thread is about letting Radio missions carry on to 50 or be Ouro-able, so that people can get the badges. I didn't personally agree to adding Radio/Paper to Atlas and Mercy (and if I did, I was tired and at University, I redact it) So, ultimately, all we/I are/am arguing about is whether to let them be in Ouro or scale to 50, albeit with level appropriate enemies in the latter case. In which case, yes, I think that should be in game as a QoL feature, because all other badges (with the exception of one very specific Redside contact) are in Ouro. And are needed for an Accolade redside, which is otherwise an unnecessary hassle to get.

For the record, I'm all for keeping Radios and papers in the zones they are and not moving them to Atlas/Mercy. So, sure, people would still have to move. I honestly don't think that would root people in said zones, unless they intended to stick to one zone anyway

Because some people, obviously a significant amount, still bought packs after getting the costume parts. For things like ATOs.

Next 'counter'?

If people intend to NEVER buy a pack until the Costume set as a whole comes out, then yes.

The logic at play here is false, in my opinion. You have the packs, right now, for people who want to buy the packs. At present, people who are on the fence will likely buy the packs until they have, say, all the costume parts, then NO MORE PACKS. And there are those who will NEVER touch the packs out of protest.

So, say the Devs release the costume set in a pack of it's own. Heck, charge a little bit more for it, I don't care. Then you get four or even five groups;
-Those who buy the packs anyway, who don't care about the costume parts.
-Those who buy the packs, who care about the costume parts but will still buy packs from time to time for ATOs, boosters etc.
-Those who were on the fence but still sway to pack-buying
-Those who were on the fence who then buy the costume set
-Those who have no interest in the Super Packs but will happily throw money down for the costume set bundle

I have seen NOTHING good to contest that. So, anyone?

In the same vein as Sam, Zwill, there are bugs reported years ago, graphical and otherwise, that are still in game. To actually have someone very visibly taking note and doing something about them seems entirely alien because so little in the past has been done to fix stuff. Even with in-game and out of game reports.

Even recent ones like, oh, Iunno, the massively broken ragdoll physics that not only breaks NPC enemies but also MM pets if they get knocked back? I know that's not graphical, but there's been no comment of a fix in the works for something as big as that.

Which was that, again?
Seriously, I do get lost in post slurry from time to time. Silly forums.

No, it's called 'The counter argument to this suggestion is over-reacting to a situation that , were to happen, would have done so already.'

People used to and probably still do farm missions in PI. If I remember right, that was 'killing the game' at one point. Then came AE, and while it did have a rockier start than most of the other culprits, it still didn't manage to do what everyone said it was going to do. Want to take a guess? That's right 'killing the game'.
And we now have DfB. Which is apparently killing the game. Only, quite clearly, it's not.

So, your 'argument' is that putting Radio missions in Ouro would, somehow, kill the game. Despite the fact that three previous methods that were actually far more effective have NOT killed the game as we know it. I can't see any logical fallacy or flaws in that reasoning whatsoever...

I think 90% of the current costume options can be covered under 'old assets' Dink

And this is why I keep harping on and on about Revamp being better than 'New Shiny!', because it serves double duty.