Tater Todd

Originally Posted by Oathbound

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I was going to post something witty, with a picture as a response... but I got distracted by Business Cat.

Originally Posted by Oathbound

Well, TW was still in beta/pre-live when it was changed (except for the dozen people who were able to get it early when it was accidentally put on the market awhile back). The Devs have shown that they're extremely reluctant to make changes that impact people's Live characters.

That said it HAS happened... just not in a long time.

Originally Posted by Tormentoso

What would make me happy with Wormhole, and apparently other people here:

• Increase the radius of effect.
• Make the Stun register earlier
• Make the Knock Back into Knock Down
• Move the power earlier than level 26

I believe Knockdown would make the power more versatile as it could still be used to reposition mobs, but also work with teams that steamrolling.

And power ordering, I know its problematic, but Tanks got their powers ordered a while back, so there is precedent.

Originally Posted by Sephar

I have changed my mind, and went and rerolled a earth/thorn

Originally Posted by Kioshi

- Game creator: Stalkers are 10/10 damage like blasters honest trololol

Originally Posted by Kioshi

Thanks for the info!

I don't know how much they improved Fly Trap's AI (all i know is that they did) because I deleted my Dom and at the time she sucked, my troller still didn't make it to 32 (lazy I know).

Anyway Fly Trap has 4 powers:

1) Entangle, the Plant St immob, doesn't matter for the proc because it's the only power that doesn't apply a defdebuff, plus it has a 16 sec recharge;

2) ST ranged thorn (like the tier 1 from thorny assault), applies -def, recharges in 3 secs;

3) The thorns cone, recharges in 12 seconds, -def, 10 target cap;

4) Bite, melee -def attack that also does -def.

Originally Posted by Trickshooter

1) Lower the Speed debuff
2) Increase the Recharge debuff
3) Add small chance to Hold

Trick Arrows currently has two powers that put enemies at the -RunSpeed cap: Glue Arrow and Oil Slick Arrow. But slowing down enemy movement isn't an effective debuff, besides making it easier to stay at range. So I suggest lowering the amount it can slow enemies movement, while increasing it's ability to slow enemies actions. Afterall, if it's really slowing down their ability to move their feet that much, why aren't their arms being slowed down as much?

Increasing the recharge debuff makes Glue Arrow, a staple power of the set, a much more effective debuff.

Also, taking precedence from powers in newer sets, I think Glue Arrow could use a new mechanic to make it more useful and attractive to players: Add chance to Hold! This would obviously be a small chance on a short duration Hold, but it would still be useful and appropriate for a power that's supposed to be putting down a strong adhesive (I'd like to see it use the 'struggling' animation from Frozen Aura, minus the ice).

Decrease SpeedDebuff to -60%
Increase RechDebuff to -30% to -40%
Add 2% chance for a 4s Mag3 Hold

Originally Posted by Kioshi

Someone said it was because devs wanted the obligatory power to be useful to the toon, now I don't remember who and if that had any grounds, but Poison has a tier 1 that you can't use to benefit yourself (Alkaloid) so well at least now that's not a valid argument.

Anyway yeah it sucks. I only used Gale on some parts of the Posi 2 TF I did yesterday because some suicidal scrapper was soloing mobs (and was gonna die) and I went out of my way to help him more than once, and if Seeds was recharged I woudn't have used Gale (I was still on DOs). And this stupid power still has an accuracy penalty.

Even on my Mind/Storm (no AoE immob) I leveled to 30ish long ago I barely used it past the teens, Mind has enough tools to mitigate anything.

Originally Posted by Silas

Originally Posted by Soundtrack

Thanks for sharing your build, Todd.

Gosh, I wish I could get more into the Incarnate system. For me, it's just too much like work (that may be because I don't fully understand it, or that it bores me. )

I know there are many benefits to it.

Originally Posted by Deus_Mortis

It has been more fun and functional that I though it would be. The sets compliment each other pretty well.
1. No attack cones so hitting the AOE's and staying in tight where venomous gas does it's work is easy. This also allows mobs to groups on you (if solo) so you hit more with your Debuffs.
2. Poison is pretty busy so voltaic sentinel is dishing out damage while you are using your poison powers. The AOE mostly can get MOBS down to scourge levels and VS can scourge just like your other attacks.
3. 2 Single target holds for bosses.
4. The hold in poison trap is long enough to to dish out a good chunk of damage with your primary and sap a nice amount of end (should be even better now that the -recovery is working) before they wake up. I'm about to start the patron arch fro soulmastery and power boost to make the end sapping even better.
5. You get Aim for when those debuff REALLY need to hit.
6. Most of all, the timing on the sets just "works" for me. The gap in the single target attack chain is kind of a signal to shoot out more debuffs. That is a person preference sort of thing but thought I would mention it.

Originally Posted by Swansu

Mind posting that build as well? Trying to get a feel for what Epic/iAbilities I should go for.

Originally Posted by Deus_Mortis

Poison trap-others have posted that procs are now working but I have not tested that myself. I did quickly test the -end. There is still minimal end drain but I think it is a very small chance per city of data so it appears to be WAI. The -100% recovery is working now when I could not detect any -recovery before the patch. I held a +2 minion and put down a Poison trap and sapped some end using short circuit. I did not time it but the mob did not regenerate end for a quite some time (not the entire duraton of the gas cloud but longer than the 10 seconds of -recovery of short circuit). I plan on giving my elec/poison some play time tonight to confirm my findings.

Originally Posted by Soundtrack

I hope I'm not threadjacking TOO badly, but this thread has persuaded me to roll a plant/storm controller. That, and "Local Man" contributing. I've always highly respected his input when it comes to controller slotting.

I do have a question re: Roots - I know (thanks to a team member in sewers this morning) that Roots does, indeed, have a -KB component; however, it doesn't last as long as the Immobilized component.

That being said, I'm guessing I should cast Roots and then IMMEDIATELY cast Tornado? (if I don't want them blowing away from my melee buddies)?

Or is there a better strategy? I saw in the build above that Roots is slotted with Posi Blasts and that makes sense of course.... so I'm guessing Roots is more used for AOE damage, rather than containment?

I apologize if these are dumb questions and thank you for any help you can provide.

Originally Posted by JuliusSeizure

I am currently running with 5 parts Unbreakable Constraint (+proc) and Lock Down proc. I may swap out Lockdown for Gladiator's Fury %chance -Res. Anyone have any preference between these two procs?



Poison is still very poor compared to almost every other support set in the game. I need to take the time and make one last argument for it receiving some attention now that I have played it 1-50 and through all the incarnate content.

Originally Posted by Jibikao

It's nice they fixed what was broken but the whole set is still very underperforming.

Originally Posted by _Pine_

Didn't notice that you can (don't know why you would) slot for damage. If only poison had better -Regen