SwellGuy

Originally Posted by Nethergoat

list the stuff you hoarded because the market is so awful to fix the market is the deformed sibling of the ever popular PLAY MOAR VILLAINS 'solution' to BM woes.

good to know the devs are still in love with Magic Pony Plans.

*thumbsup*

Originally Posted by SpittingTrashcan

Off the cuff quick fix:
* Bloody Bay: One of the meteors can only be scanned by villains. One can only be scanned by heroes. To get a Shivan, you must knock at least one shard off someone from the opposing faction.
* Warburg: One of the launch codes can only be obtained by villains. One can only be obtained by heroes. To get a nuke, you must knock at least one launch code off someone from the opposing faction.

There, now they're PvP rewards.

Originally Posted by MrCaptainMan

My mistake, I thought PvPers wanted to actually PvP, not read stuff.

How about when you click on the entrance to any PvP zone you get an option to go to a PvE version (as I described above) with no PvP allowed, or the PvP zones as they are now, then? Would everyone be happy then?

Eco.

Originally Posted by SpittingTrashcan

The problem is that the intent of the design and the consequences of the design do not necessarily have anything to do with each other. Bloody Bay and Warburg may have been designed with the intent of inducing and rewarding PvP, but the actual design is a classic prisoner's dilemma.

PvPers have the stated intent of the devs on their side. PvEers have the actual reward structure on theirs. This is dumb.

Originally Posted by Slax

Didn't you know all the problems are my fault?

Originally Posted by Slax

- Posi told me to list my stored items and save the market

Originally Posted by macskull

The given reason that temp powers such as the Warburg nukes and the Shivan Shards are in PvP zones is to add some modicum of challenge in getting them, as they'd otherwise be considered overpowered (I can somewhat see this, as they put just about every other temp power to shame, and a team of 8 with Shivans out will be out-DPS'd by their own pets). Of course, given that PvP in this game is dead everywhere except two zones on one server (neither of which have any attainable temp powers through zone events), this really isn't an issue anymore. Odds are you won't be bumping into people in your random quests to get these temp powers, and even if you do it should not be more than one or two people. Even a non-PvP-built character played intelligently should at least be able to avoid such a situation.

Originally Posted by ShoeTattoo

Poor example. HOs are available on the market. You don't need to go into the hive to get them. I'll bet you've bought some over the years, as well, despite not enjoying being in the hive.

PvP badges and PvP zone temp powers are available in one kind of zone only. There is no alternative way to get these "shinies", that was by design, it induces players who like the shinies but find PvP annoying to enter the PvP zones, which leads to predictable and repeated friction between players who have intentions for being in the PvP zones that are clearly not in synch, and that makes it a poor design decision.

Here's a two step plan for walking in a circle, as a PvP player. Argue that PvE players shouldn't have the option of acquiring shinies made available in PvP zones in any other way. Lets put aside the doubtful claim that weighing in about how others should or should not be allowed to have fun makes any sense, for a second, and pretend that it does. Then you can complain and claim the moral high ground when those people who you argued shouldn't have other options for obtaining their shinies ... complain because they don't have other, more enjoyable options for getting their shinies.

Then you get to argue that PvE players who dislike PvP shouldn't have the option of acquiring shinies made available in PvP zones in any way other than by entering PvP zones (we've agreed to pretend you have some business weighing in about that issue, right?). And so on.

Repeat ad nauseum.

Originally Posted by Garielle

The problem is, since the release of CoV (Issue 6), Blue Side has seen entire new zones, complete zone revamps, etc. The Red Side has seen a few minor changes (adding a respec contact to Port Oakes, for example), but hasn't seen anything completely revamped and certainly no new contact, except for co-op content.



That remains to be seen. Even when CoV was the "new baby" it never got any real attention, content wise. I am not going to count on Praetoria being any different in that respect.



Given that the blue side has to run a short arc just to get access to their high level SOs (admittedly less of a problem now with IOs, but still a handicap), this is one thing I think the red side may get the better end of the deal. Nothing to see here devs. Nothing to balance. All is well.

Originally Posted by Old_Macdonald

Swell, you are under the impression I have something to prove. I do not.
I decided to share some information that is all.
You can choose to embrace it or dismiss it, that is your choice.

Yee Haw Yall

Originally Posted by Aura_Familia

We'll assume you know what you're talking about when you provide proof. Till then we'll assume you're full of . . .

Well you get the idea.

Originally Posted by Carnifax_NA

I think any sane individual prefers Mayhems over Snoozeguards.



I prefer redside missions over Blue usually and find the ATs overall more interesting there. I do find the lack of variety in the zones redside a bit of a trial though, would love to have more alternatives available. GR will be good in that regard.I'd love alternative Striga & Croatoa style zones Red Side too though.

Originally Posted by Nethergoat

it's like they wanted the mini-game a market provides but didn't stop to consider the sort of behaviors a market enables...nay, encourages.


It's like hosting a political convention and being shocked, SHOCKED I SAY when ladies of the evening flock to the hotel lobby.


Wait, that isn't a very flattering analogy is it.... =/

Originally Posted by Chaos_Reaver

It lasts a total of 10 seconds, not particually long to jump into Nova. You may get a few blasts off, but thats it.

Better of hitting Sunless Mire in human form which is 30 seconds if you want the extra damage.

Originally Posted by Madam_Enigma

Actually, I slotted my nova form for 3 end mod, and have chance for end drain procs in the nova attacks I could put it in. That, and my usual attack chain includes double miring first. So either I die fast, or everything else dies fast. Dwarf form I want eventually slotted for 3 resist and 3 end mod.

Originally Posted by Bill Z Bubba

I think I'm less concerned with the controllery aspects of dark blast simply based on the fact that dark blasts damage output is already lessened in relation to the other blasts sets as a balance point.

Regardless, I'm glad to see I'm not alone at all in the desire to get a dark/dark blaster combo.

Originally Posted by Jophiel

Prima?

I still have their old Everquest: Kunark guide from ten years ago. It's good reading for the lulz.

Originally Posted by Madam_Enigma

As others have stated, no stamina in the forms. They do get baked in higher recovery, so that may be worth slotting. Your mind may vary. I find in dwarf form my WS needs more end recovery. In nova and human, not so much.

Originally Posted by Old_Macdonald

Something people might not know: Gold farmers buy up purples and Pvp IO's to inflate the market in order to drive up the prices, forcing some non famer players who want purples to purchase Inf/Imf from them.