SwellGuy

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I will go months without seeing a purple drop and then I will get several in a short period.

Yep, masterminds can "tankermind" thanks to spreading the damage around via the pets in bodyguard mode.

But I still think it is a mistake to view villain ATs through the lens of hero ATs. It's not a mirror situation. I treat each AT as unique and some ATs are unique by powersets. I wouldn't play a storm defender anything like a force field one.

I found one by @Gadgetdon the other day. It was one of 3 arcs. I had stumbled into the middle one and it was lowbie solo friendly, fun and was very much like the Praetorian portal missions.

So 46 to 50 takes what, 20 hours? As I commented before your "months" assertion is meaningless. People can roleplay hours upon hours. If you aren't pulling down at least 1 million per hour of defeating enemies you are doing it wrong. Catwhoorg had a thread where people were documenting their rates which did not allow for market participation, just vendoring drops, and the worst soloers were getting almost that amount.

Yes, your expectation to have a market with a steady supply of items is unrealistic. There is no force that compels the playerbase to use the market to sell their drops. It is a voluntary system. People either aren't getting them or they aren't selling them. Only the devs would know if the items aren't dropping at their desired rate but even then there is nothing that would magically bring those items to the market.

You have been here so long, have you forgotten all the loot hate I9 precipitated on the forums? I doubt even 50% of the players sell on the market and I suspect a higher percentage come to the market to buy what they want.

Sticking with the game is not relevant to sticking with a character or sticking with a method to obtain drops. Perhaps you have severe altitis or like to chat more than kill. I would have no way to know. All I had was your comment that 30 minutes in the arena was too long to wait. Even under the old drop system you'd be lucky to get a drop in that time.

1. What do you mean by months? Someone might play 1 hour a week for months but then really that is they merely played for say 60 hours and 187 million from 60 hours of grinding isn't a bad rate.

2. What are you doing with the drops you get while playing? And are you teaming or soloing (since teaming reduces your drop rates)?

Frankly if you gave up after 30 minutes of the arena it seems like you may have a problem with sticking with something.

My 50 warshade has several purples via drops and market purchases and is sitting on 192 million with about 50-75 hours of playing and selling what he didn't need/want.

My 50 dominator has 371 million from even less time playing but I spent days in the arena before the changes. In 30 minutes I would not expect anything from the arena and if I did get something it would be amazing luck.

I think your expectations are unrealistic.

I am inclined to think that as well but I am not going to underestimate the PLers. If there is a way they are going to find it.

I think AE just made it easier by eliminating padding, filling, losing the level 46 as it leveled, etc. and it has become a bragging thing while before people just did it.

This is like saying since you can build a treehouse you understand the principles of building a skyscraper or since you can make a paper airplane you don't understand why space shuttles might blow up.

Your brother needs to understand intangible benefits.

I played it.

I think you are overreading my post if you see my opinion as research but I will try to explain my reasoning.

Our markets are underused by the playerbase. This was referenced a long time ago by a redname.

Most market hate posts are of the flavor of "I want to play a super hero game, not city of stock brokers" or "Ebil manipulators/flippers are driving up the prices".

So it seems reasonable to believe that most City players are not using the market because it does not fit their game style. Since merits and tickets in MA were added supplies dropped some so it seems reasonable to believe players use tickets and merits and avoid the market. So if many players who do not use the market leave, the market impact should be negligble apart from their impact on teaming with market users.

So in order for the markets to be impacted, users of the market will need to leave for CO in sufficient numbers to affect the market.

Why CO is unlikely to draw many players from here:
1. Their system requirements are much higher. Only one of my 3 City systems could run it. This reduces the number of players eligible to leave. Sure you can play it on a lower setting but that kind of defeats the purpose of playing the game. It does look very nice to me but many complain about the comicy look and on lower rez settings even I didn't like it.

2. It is very light on content. While this will no doubt improve in a few months by time they really get up to speed we may be at the point of Going Rogue and certainly well beyond Issue 16 launching.

3. Someone who is here to play our markets alone would need to evaluate if CO's market would be enjoyable and how long it would take them to get up to speed. (I am not certain CO has a market but since I was getting drops I certainly would expect them to have one at some point.)

I guess I am thinking we are likely to see far more impact from our own issues than CO is going to bring. I didn't hate CO and I am not leaving for it and even if I bought the lifetime sub I still wouldn't play it until they get the kinks worked out.

What about the aura spammers?

Yet even fewer PvP.

I assume he means for warm bodies to PvP to get the drops which is harder on low pop servers.

I have to admit I am still laughing after reading this for 5 minutes.

I want to emphasize "do not spam". If enough people have had enough of seeing a message constantly splashed in broadcast and click ignore spammer you may get a ban until it is sorted out.

Two years ago from today we were still in month one of Issue 10 so you are saying all that was in Issues 11-15 was 2 TFs and a small handful of dev created content?

Your definition of content must be quite constrained.