SweetChilli

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Hm charnell you say forts and widows are op, but at the same time you say you have no probs with your BS/regen against 3 players as long as they are no widows or forts.

No problem against 3 players while able to deal damg sounds op to me too.

How come you dont think your op and just the widows or forts are because they can kill you ?

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When did Charnell say she/he wasn't over powered?

And this...

You want an AT to be more survivable than other ATs in PvP while dealing the same damg as the "squishier" ATs ?


You just go on and on making brainless assumptions about other peoples posts. JUST READ WHAT IS THERE AND NOTHING MORE!

"It is better not to speak and be thought a fool, then to open your mouth and remove all doubt." -- Mark Twain

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I think you should learn to read Moghedien. Fahie simply stated that he/she would hate to know what you thought of elude. That is not the same as saying that PFF is easier to hit through than elude.

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Fahie said in one thread that forts and nw are almost impossible to hit, while she says here that its not very hard to hit through PFF which offers way more defense than nw or forts can get.

So its either the one or the other.....

Granted maybe i have trouble to understand everything or arguing effective, since its not my native language, but i am always polite ... <removed by mod>

I might disagree with Fahie often but i like arguing with her cause shes nice (most of the time ^^)
She pointed out i misunderstood something and i accept that.

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Please show a link to the thread where Fahie said that forts and nw are almost impossible to hit.

She has already stated that you have mis-understood. <removed by mod>

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No .. where did I say opposite ?
Don't believe at any point I said that PFF was easier to hit through than PVP elude levels?

Fahie

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Because phase means you really can't be hit and PFF means you are *unlikely* to be hit.

I've lost count of the number of times I've been hit through PFF both PVE and PVP. A few faceplants here and there
Back on subject, PFF is not even close to impossible to hit through. FA/yellows/no- acc-check debuffs ... all will see that PFF looking a bit tame very quickly.

PS *is* impossible to hit through, obviously.

Besides, if PFF's overpowered then I hate to know what you think of elude"
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Remember ?

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I think you should learn to read Moghedien. Fahie simply stated that he/she would hate to know what you thought of elude. That is not the same as saying that PFF is easier to hit through than elude.

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Sadly I only have a Fire/BA...

Well, they won't have no end if they pick up blues so they would be able to phase. If they had it...but I can't see many tanks picking that up.

I just think you 2 are only seeing one side of the fight. You both forfetting that the tank is going to be beating on the corr while the corr waits for the tank to run out of blues?

Well fire/ss cannot get end protection like some sets out there, but I would expect anyone going up against anything elec or therm to pack blues.

The therm will only have perma HE if they survive until the tank runs out of blues which may be over 7 mins into the fight. If a fire/ss tank cannot kill a corr in that time then they have more to worry about than their endurance.

If the tank does kill the corr in that time then the corr's chance to have perma HE is severely depleated.

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Elec/therm Corr can beat pretty much anything 1v1 in arena

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Elec/Therm - lol. He was asking for ones that could beat his tank. Not ones that easily get beat!

Elec/Therm - lol. He was asking for ones that could beat his tank. Not ones that easily get beat!

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an kin/ele/dark defender is also a bad thing too handle
without recovery and endurance all opponents will be down soon

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Ever heard of CABS?

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Oh and by the way in repliance to Toerag converting the Pope to Islam is possible, people have changed religions before and it still goes on now, it's commonplace.

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Name 1 pope that has converted from Catholocism to another religion please.

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Of course thats the same as just getting on with playing the bloody game without having your chars constantly messed about with aint it.

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Just because something was wrong and overpowered from the start, or became overpowered through changes to the game, doesnt justify for not adjusting it.

Every mmopg is in a constant state of nerfing, buffing, improving different classes, sets.

If you want no changes to powers you need to play single player games.

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I've been doing some data mining this morning and I've discovered that Moghedien is wrong.

I have also data mined the fact that 90% of all data mined statistics are made up - so from now on, please only use data wells. Data holes are fine to use also. Please avoid any data pits or data caverns though as these may be unstable.

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BOTH SS and Wp are superior to the other sets, which has been datamined.

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When did they release those results?

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Look in brute section here :-)

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Isn't it fantastic when someone is proved to be lying or just using words that they don't understand?

I've never seen a violet hand. But I've seen a few purple thumbs!

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Many apologies to anyone who read the pointless conversation with PRAF. I have taken it to PM to avoid further arguing on this thread where it isn't needed.

Again, sorry for the inconvinience.

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Just have a fight. The winner of the fight is the one who is right.

Everyone who is bickering in this thread is displaying the traits of exactly why my idea wouldn't work. Because people are different over the internet than they are face to face. Most of the comments here you lot wouldn't dare say to each other in a pub because you'd get a smack.

You people are inherently evil and weak and make me sick! Now who wants to meet me for a pint and a fight?

Whoa, whoa folks! Lets not safe it up too much! Let the self policing take effect. Most people who play this game, I assume, are interested in being a hero - so there should be no shortage of do gooders around to lay out some knack to those who would be going around shoeing other players willy nilly.

I can feel the love!

What I want is a new world order. With me at the head of it! Nothing less!

You are right, level 50's would hang around atlas (or if this were deemed a safe zone they would hang around train stations or portals) waiting for level 1's to log in and gank them. But then other players would see this and resentment and hatred would build up. Before long, bounty squads would form with the aim to protect those of lower levels.

Then maybe anti-bounty squads and ainti anti bounty squads (etc etc).

No longer would the Villain/Hero option matter. YOUR actual allignment and morales are the only things that would dictate your 'side'.

You could be different allignments on different chars, maybe even change allignment, maybe be placed in a bounty squad as a spy.

True freedom to do right or wrong. Is the world not about choice and freedom?

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I say we make all the zones PvP zones and when you die you lose 1/8 of your total xp. It would be utter carnage at first but then an order would come about.

Yes, you would get level 50's obliterating level 1s in Atlas. But give people a travel power at level 1 and a 30 second timer whenever they enter a new zone and that would be enough time to get to a mish or a train station.

Alliences would form.

Be interesting just to see what would happen for 1 day.

[/ QUOTE ]No need to see. The game would implode within a week of such a change being announced. Subscriptions would vanish faster than ice in a firestorm.
Not that the Devs would be so stupid as to introduce such an obviously suicidal feature into the game.
IT would make the changes to SWG look like nirvana.

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Pffft! If everyone was a softie like you!

I say we make all the zones PvP zones and when you die you lose 1/8 of your total xp. It would be utter carnage at first but then an order would come about.

Yes, you would get level 50's obliterating level 1s in Atlas. But give people a travel power at level 1 and a 30 second timer whenever they enter a new zone and that would be enough time to get to a mish or a train station.

Alliences would form.

Be interesting just to see what would happen for 1 day.

I am wrong on that one though.

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even whine COX means both COH and COV, the design is still PVP unfriendly, and still doesn't have the mind set on PVP totally.
the balance for PVP solved some things, but the game is wrongly designed from the beginning for PVP.
there are 2 facts to back that up.
1. you are required to be lvl 50, so you can say that PVP is a part of the game you need to play PVE for over a year only to have a chance.


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Spot the noob!

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US Laws are stupid.

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I fixed that for you

[/ QUOTE ]don't say one country law is stupid if you don't look at your own country 1st....british got tons of useless and very very outdated law


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Why not?

Thats like saying I can't say your house is red because I have a red house too.

The major change that needs to be rolled back is the way mezzes and bf's work now. Bring back protection and get rid of resistance.

Come on - that was ages ago. I ain't droned hardly anyone in well over a 18 months.

Well thats function of attack range - not kiting. One of the points of travel powers is to get into range for your powers. If you ever learn to play, you'll be able to use the environment to help with that also.

I still don't see the problem with kiting. If someone goes out of my attack range then I move towards them with my attack already queued up. When they come back into range again, my attack fires off as does theirs.

If they manage to attack me without my attack firing off then good for them and tough luck on me. I'd better learn to prevent that learn to play better then or pick better powers or actually slot for range.