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He he. I normally prefer Tolkienesque stuff myself, but for some reason this series had me captured early. He has gotten a little long and wandered into too much stuff that is irrelevant (or is unnecessarily repeating relevant themes), but that seems to be the style of our times with fantasy novels. I do like that he is trying to bring it to a close, it shows that he knows he wandered a bit more than needed (or than he intended).
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Quote:Interesting, I can see know why our opinions differ since I guess I never truly farmed BAF. Back when I20 first released, I ran a lot of trials for about 3 weeks. At first, we had a lot of variance as we tried out different things. We also spent a lot of runs doing various things to get the various BAF badges.If you want to compare the BAF to poker, it's like a poker game where you're allowed to NOT shuffle the deck if you want.
Now when I run trials, I'll join a team and run a Lambda then BAF (or a BAF then Lambda). Normally after 1 or 2 trials I head out to do something else. If I feel like more trials I might stay, but I will switch characters to change my experience. I oftentimes still get to play in runs where we will do the more fun methods of Keep 'Em Separated and/or shoot for Strong and Pretty (I lead trials, so I can make that call myself and I'll occasionally suggest it to leagues I am on even when not leading, it doesn't always work, but sometimes it will).
If you are engaging in the BAF repeatedly with the same character and using the same strategy with mostly the same other leaguemates, then I agree with your assessment. I would not do that to myself. No reward is worth that mind-numbing monotony, IMO. However, that mind-numbing monotony is not the fault of the game designers. -
Quote:Death Bed: The Bed That EatsFearsome Stair? That power SUCKS!
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Quote:Cool. Inherent fitness really opened up some nice possibilities. Grab a miracle for Health, you already have the one IO, two will be OK!It's on my Elec/Sr scrapper, and yes, I have end to attack. I do need to pop a blue candy every second or third group though.
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Quote:I do not think comparing running 3 BAFs in a row is like playing the exact same hand, its more like playing the exact same game, but shuffling the deck (assuming people actually come and go, if you do it with the exact same teams, then maybe, but outside of Master Lambda/Keyes runs, I rarely see that).However, to bring that analogy more in-line with what is being said...
People wouldn't necessarily enjoy playing the exact same hand the entire 3 or 4 hours (one person might, hehe).
Of course, no analogy is perfect, but the complaint is not playing CoH for 3 or 4 hours... it is playing one tiny aspect of it repeatedly.
If the people playing CoH would be happier playing a card game without much variance, then they could do that instead of a mmorpg with 7 years of content.
Of course, most leagues I see anymore rotate, doing BAF then Lam (and hopefully one day Keyes gets put in more often, it does seem to finally be trickling in more and more).
If you are not the type to enjoy that, don't do it. I don't. I run five or six trials a week (although oftentimes two or three of those are on the same day(s)). I play Yahtzee, Chess, and Connect Four that much, they are much less dynamic than even BAF. -
Quote:But if people gather around and play cards for 3 or 4 hours its called fun. If they play a sport for 3 hours its called fun. Some people like to play games repeatedly for hours and have been doing it for thousands of years.If more people get on-board, I'm going to organize an event: A night of farming iTrials where everyone in the league must dress the part.
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Quote:It is to me!Not really a fair comparison. We're not at a weight-lifting contest.
Here are my feelings about pets and defenders and corruptors.
Quote:I will always, always buff Vicky over a blaster in an AV fight. The extra DPS the team gets is much more significant.
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Quote:One thing I find modestly sad is that many defenders may actually choose to buff their Lore pets instead of teammates. If you are using your AB to buff Vicki's damage instead of blaster A, that kind of makes me sad.You're too hung up on the fact that Incarnate powers are not AT powers. That's not something that matters when asking the question of "How much damage can your character contribute?". Everyone can get lore pets, sure, but defenders get the most out of lore pets.
Once on a large team/league, my scrapper's Lore pets are likely gonna be buffed to the gills too, so while it is true it is the defender/controller/corruptor/MM doing the buffing, the scrapper and his pet is still bringing tons of damage. I am not really seeing the Lore pets as evening the playing field even after 50, although I do agree they are a nice power and very useful. -
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Quote:I don't even know what the above means. My Rage generally recharges in about 80 seconds. For a long time I just clicked it sometime after I noticed it was recharged, kind of like I would handle Foot Stomp or KoB. If I failed to click it for 10 or 20 seconds, so be it, I lost some efficiency on my slight double rage time. I do now have files bound to my move keys which keeps Rage and Hasten going pretty much automatically, although I have to watch during some AV fights if I stop movingThe only way you can say that rage is "more manageable" than build up is if your custom is to play the game as a robot would and you actually enjoy making the rage train run on time. Isn't it obvious that I don't?
Quote:Another thing I didn't get into is the fact that without considering the buffs, SS doesn't have many good powers. KO Blow is good and foot stomp is a slightly above average pbaoe due mainly to its extra large radius. Nothing else in the set would make the cut if you were using most other primaries and could add any SS power you wanted to them.
Quote:So in that sense, rage constrains you even more as if you fail to keep its timing exact then your efficiency drops commensurately. Most other sets don't actually need to fire BU every time it's available to continue doing good single target damage. They can, of course. Oh, and if we're talking about double stacked rage, which I was, then BU is recharging in 22.5 seconds.
I am guessing you are one of those people who do not actually use Build Up. You kind of hit it once or twice a mission and are content with your damage output without Build Up. Its nice that BU can recharge in 22.5 seconds, but if you can't handle clicking Rage every 80-100 seconds, what makes Build Up easier to manage if you have to click it every 24? -
Interesting. I could almost see Invuln, but that is likely just my bias towards the set. Elec and SR are not even in the same league as Regen, just on SOs, IME.
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Honestly, my preference would be to keep ED as is and make Conserve Power something new.
Focused Shield. Give it the same end discount and recharge as Energize, but instead of a heal have it add some resistance all. Either 15% for 30 seconds or 40% for 15 seconds, depending on your goal for the power.
I could see perhaps front-loading some of the ED heal. Make it 10%, non-stacking and then 2% for each enemy in range. That makes the heal 12% for one target and 30% for 10. Alternatively you could make it 15% for one target and 3% for each enemy in range and cap the power at 5 targets (which is much more viable now that the set will also have a taunt aura). There was never an end recovery reason to have a 10 target cap on the power (but you lose some of the possible mitigation from end drain). The latter method gives the heal an 18% to 30% range. -
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Quote:While I will personally enjoy the taunt aura, I too am surprised that stealth brute gets a taunt aura. One thing to realize is that this does not change anything while fighting. A taunt aura should not alter how the stealth works to avoid aggroing the next spawn or even a nearby enemy in the current spawn who did not aggro. Anything the taunt aura will aggro would have aggroed before just from being so close.That said, I *REALLY* wish they would have kept the taunt out of the set. Although I'd have to play the set to get a definite feel for its changes, but they really bark of 'been there! done that!' for melee sets. It's just armor toggles, heal, aura, tier 9. At least before, it was more about the stealth. I'd have really enjoyed it if they took my idea and swapped Conserve Power for a kind of Fiery Embrace clone that added energy damage and lowered endurance costs. Then, the set would be more about concealment and offense rather than 'heard em!'. Ah well...
It is true there is some concern about running through missions past enemies now, since it is preferable not to turn off your status protection when doing so. -
Nope. I can't. I have tried. I turned my difficulty down to 0 x1 no bosses and ran 1.5 tip missions. Then I had to log out because it is not CoH when I do that, it is some bizarro world "press space to win" game. It was so mind-numbingly painful for me I couldn't muster the will to log in for days afterwards.
This is just like the crafting badges for Field Crafter. I CAN'T do it. I want to do it. I have tried to do it, but after 15 to 20 minutes I can no longer function in the game. Why would I do that to myself on purpose? I occasionally try again, because my tastes could change, but so far no Field Crafter and no ability to run tips at "collect your prize" difficulty.
I do not begrudge anyone who can do it. I am at 23 H-merits. It has been awhile since I have worked at it, so I will likely soon be able to run some tips again and get some more progress. One day I will have my vanity IO, it is just gonna take awhile. -
Quote:Just because you believe there is a disparity and feel that tankers are somehow being treated inequitably, doesn't mean there is and they are.Just because you don't care that there's a disparity or don't mind that Tankers aren't being treated equitably, doesn't mean there isn't and that they are.
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Do you really think those sets are stronger than Regen on SOs? And if you do, are you playing those sets on Brutes and then comparing the survivability to Regen scrappers? I love Invuln, my favorite set, but I have no pretenses that it's better than Regen before I get all IOd up.
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Quote:I am also concerned about this change because Energize will come so late in the build. I already dislike that ED came so late. I do agree that I have to wait to see and play the changes before judging, but at first blush I do not like losing a tool I have grown fond of using.Oh, and this discussion (including my posts) has failed to mention that Energy Drain will now give a scaling +Def buff per target hit, the way it currenty has a scaling 3% per target Heal. That will further negate the need to heal every 60 seconds as well.
It's definitely a change to the feel of the powerset, but the changes they're making to Energy Drain and Conserve Power/Energize feel like lateral ones at this point. As I mentioned earlier, we'll need to wait and see how it plays for ourselves before we can declare it a nerf or not.
On my Claws/Elec scrapper, I am seriously underwhelmed with Energize, so that is also coloring my PoV. Energize may be much more useful on my defense capped (and likely incarnate defense capped with the new ED bonus) brute though, so I am trying not to judge before real play testing. This is one of those things where I am feeling really bad about this change, but trying not to let it color my attitude (but still admitting the truth of my concerns). -
Quote:Bobcat is mean if you kill Neuron first. I find I generally have more leeway with the sword bombs on my tankers than on my scrappers or brute.Battle Maiden's sword bombs will surely kill a Tanker as quick as a Scrapper or Brute. Angry Boobcat will easily tear up all three, but all three can be buffed and healed to stand up to her. Tankers still deal mediocre damage in both situations.
Quote:The Keyes pulse doesn't hit Tankers for significantly less, and most of the other special mechanics on this trial circumvent the superior survivability numbers Tankers get, essentially treating all the melee ATs equally, but Tankers still deal the least damage the whole time despite this.
Quote:The bottom line: Brute and Scrapper survivability is way up in all content thanks to the Incarnate system and I don't see a suitable reciprocated increase in Tanker damage, thanks to among other factors, a crappy damage cap. The "harder content" doesn't favor Tanker survivability over any other melee AT's survivability very much at all; if it's gonna kill a Scrapper or Brute, it'll kill a Tanker, and it wont kill any of the three when they're buried in team buffs. Yet the whole time, Tankers still have to suffer significantly inferior standing damage and caps to pay for more out-of-the-box survivability that seems less and less relevant when everyone's got Barrier Destiny these days. -
Quote:I play sets with Build Up all the time, I only have one SS character. If the devs told me I could choose between Rage and Build Up, I'd take Rage every time, it is perma Build Up with a minor inconvenience (once you get it perma, before that the defense debuff is troubling).Will you really? My initial reading of this is that you're rejecting all sets but SS as it is the only set with rage in it. Surely you don't feel that SS is so much better than every other set by any measure that it's the only one worth playing.
You can't seem to really find why you dislike Rage. First it was animation time and constant debuff. But Build Up has more animation time and a much worse "debuff". Now you mention it is because you have to manage clicking it occasionally, but if you actually use Build Up, you have to click Build Up and manage it much more than Rage, for much less effect.
Rage is much easier to manage than Build Up and is vastly more potent. The one reason I find Rage slightly harder to deal with than Build Up, you have not even mentioned (the endurance drop). You mentioned you won't even try it until it is changed because you think it looks obnoxious to deal with. Since you seem not to have actual experience using the power, I am trying to show you that it is not obnoxious to deal with, especially compared to Build Up. -
Quote:Based on SOs only and no primary, Regen is top tier. Especially vs. Malta, Carnies, and Arachnos, Regen will surpass most other sets, if everyone is just on SOs.Note the following observations are based on SOs only, and no primary. (Otherwise, since my own 500+ hours of playtime /regen is Broadsword, I'd be slanted into making regen a lot tougher than it actually is thanks to permanently being at the lethal and melee softcaps from stacked parry).
People seem to be able to remember what Regen plays like on just SOs, but forget how Invuln and Elec and SR play just on SOs. -
Quote:I am not sure if it was the avatar or if it is just my correct tendency to use the masculine pronoun when sex is unknown. I do sometimes use the more incorrect "they", but I try not to.(Also, I need to find a new avatar. I set this one a while back because it amused me, but it's raising the incident rate of people calling me 'he'.)
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Pyronic also has a cast time advantage. Not a huge concern on a power that recharges only every 90 seconds, but it is one second less that you are locked into an animation while you may need to heal or do something vital when fighting an AV/GM.
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Quote:We haven't really been told that by the devs. Changes to the blaster AT in I11 and the Vigilance change for defenders pretty much cemented that the devs very much design the game with the expectation that most teams will have Aggro controllers / DPS / Support. Designing some encounters that make a specific type of support very handy is not wrong, especially since both defense and resistance are still hugely useful in a Keyes trial. Healing is a perfectly legitimate skill that should sometimes be seen as highly desirable.All it does is make sure that people go to the hospital in a steady stream if the league doesn't include a taunter and several healers. So on one hand we've been told for seven years that this game ignores the MMO Trinity of Tank/DPS/Healing, and now practically requires it for a new encounter.
I haven't had any issues seeing it on myself, but I am still having trouble seeing it on allies, which makes this a bit frustrating when I am on a character who could really help someone who is being disintegrated. I hope they find a better way to notify us who the disintegrate target is.