Stone Daemon

You have a brute that can go up against +8 mobs? That's an impressive feat. Unfortunately, it is also irrelevant to the thread.

That is debatable...but before I say why, perhaps you would like to share this build with us? Yeah, that's what I thought.

Anyhow, that assumes that the player is interested in going human form only, which may or may not fit the playstyle of any said player. Playstyle might be unimportant when compared to numbers, but consider this: if it doesn't work for the person playing it, it will be unplayed. And if it is unplayed, it might as well not exist.

Furthermore, the strength of human-form varies wildly at different levels, it's really only "the best" at late game content when it has the powers and advantages (not to mention heavily invested build) that let it edge out tri-form. And that is only true until we get toggle suppression, or the next round of buffs. Who knows what will happen?

So...yeah, debatable. But a valid point, when considering current numbers at endgame.

Stone uses Logic.

It has no effect!

New Dawn uses False Premise.

Stone ignores the attack!

Stone uses Examples and Reasoning.

New Dawn has dodged the attack!

New Dawn uses You Don't Know What You're Talking About Silly Silly Person.

Stone falls asleep.

Oh man, you guys broke him, he didn't use the smileys.

Right. Well, to use your car analogy; if one person can fix up their car and drive it in such a way that they can regularly pop onto 2 wheels with it, that does not mean that those cars that can't do that need to be upgraded. It would be an interesting gimmick, but it is not relevant to normal conditions for a normal car.

Frankly, the whole premise is silly. You summon out some lore pets next time you farm, and tell me how long they last. I suppose they need to be buffed too?

I felt your argument was strong, though next time I will need comedic pictures to solidify your point.

Yes, it is.

No, I'm not. I'm saying that you're putting warshades in an abnormal situation, which has no relevance to normal play.

So you admit your whole scenario is contrived, then?

What people...say they can do? Who are these people? What are they saying? What use does farm data serve? You know, besides painting fluffies in a bad light because they can't handle all the extra aggro from a farm that is stacked against them. Guess what? No other pets can survive farming maps for long, either. Warshades aren't farmers*. The data you "collect" from putting them in such a situation under such conditions is about as useful as my earlier examples.

*Just because something can survive a farm does not make them a farmer.

I still don't understand what you hope to achieve by measuring a fluffies life expectancy from a farm run. That's a bit like measuring the average DPS from an AoE attack versus a pylon. Or testing the durability of your armor set by seeing how long it can last against the Hamidon.

I'm not sure if I'd use the word underperforming...but PB's do need a bit of work. The photon seekers, for example. They are just bad as pets. And we still need toggle supression. And pulsar still sucks.

Basically all the threads we've gone over in the last year or so should catch you up to date on why some people consider them underperformers.

Listening to those voices without applying logic/reasoning is generally a bad thing.

Your argument is invalid because this game doesn't have pvp.

But yeah, along with everything else, what's to stop people from making...inappropriate costume pieces? The dev team would get bogged down in checking the new content being produced by people to ensure that it was safe to publish, which would probably slow down new issues/content.

No, he's saying that he won't share his build until he creates a better one.

I would imagine it would be somewhere just over nine thousand.

B3(4u53 y0u f41l_3l) l_l5. `/0l_l r 700 5l_0\/\/.

Eh, if I no longer have access, it's no big deal. I didn't bother with it all that often anyway.

That's what caused me to finally stick with the set. I hate the eyebeam animation for some reason, but the hand beams work so well with the robot concept I came up with.