Starsman

You softie, I'd add an irresistible minute long 1000 mag hold on top of all that and still like the flexibility.

You could say the same about Shield Defense. Ninjitsu is very very different from SR, merging the passives and then giving the set utility would not change that. Although i did think "ninjitsu is SR done right" a lot back in the day it was first introduced.

I always seen SR as kind of... well, super speed defense. I can see a SR that had a built in super speed travel power (freeing up a travel pool) and perhaps a "taunt aura" that gave a recharge buff and end discount for every foe in range.

If you going into "should had beens" then all the passives should had been rolled into one and two utility powers added in the extra space.

If those models still exist and so do the animations you guys should just toss those sharks in as no-xp critters! Or better, make them a bit of a joke by giving 1xp point at level 50!!!

I toss you Lone Wolf as a tank to that awesomeness evidence, protecting his child all throughout the story, and definitively not killing himself for his master

Funny, I think I missread your post (or did I corsseye and read antoher one??) and thougt you said to have Granite grant the user a "Granite Look Costme Temp Power" that would only work if you are inside granite. At that point it's up to the user to activate an end-free, stat-free power that just changes your costume to the old granite, and this power, requiring granite mode to run, would auto detogle if Granite detogles.

Seeing as how I made an electric tank with every single secondary and tested them quite a bit, I'd say I talk mostly based of play testing too.

I said it's Optional for survivability, I also noted how I always taked it on my builds. It is true that it can bring some strong survivability but as you face higher level foes purple patch makes you loose that benefit due to the binary nature of -end.

So I think the powers listed are indeed "optional" from a raw survivability standpoint, but they are not junk powers. They are good enough for me to skip on my travel power in order to accommodate other stuff before I dare skip on them.

The only power I actually skip on all my elec tank builds was Power Surge. Every time I found myself needing the extra survivability I would likely also die due to the crash and would had fared as well poping any type of inspiration or even crazier: running away and resting and running back in. Rare occurrence, though.

Now I'm confused, your first statement was about them sacrificing their lives to protect some one (their master,) not about being offensive.

Tankers are only highly survivable to be able to do the same, same reason Samurai used bulky armor while Ninjas would barely wear anything that hindered movement.

Even if we stick to this definition (I dare bet the amount of samurai that performed oibara just out of free will were in the low end and many of these were "punishments" for allowing the death of their masters) I still cant see how that would not fit a tanker.

Tankers fight to protect their team, they will die to protect their team. Real tankers stay in the fight after the team dies even if they know they will die and not win just because they refuse to run, they rather die where their team died.

If that would not fit Bushido I don't know what would. Yea, it's not serving one master, but Samurai and Ronin would sometimes do this not just for their masters but to protect loved ones and innocents (the last one at least in fiction.)

Brutes would make good Ronin concepts too. And we already have samurai armor in the game, making this even more perfect!

Here is the thing with Fitness, even if i need no stamina, the regeneration you get from 3 slotted Health makes a significant difference for a set with high resistances because your damage intake is low, meaning your regen means much more (its healing less damage.) It is so subtle you may not notice but it makes a big difference.

Then there is swift or hurdle. If i have no swift or hurdle with combat jump, I feel I am crawling from one spawn to the next or while manouvering in combat. This lack of movibility can slowly add up to a huge xp per hour hit. Again, subtle thing that adds up a LOT.

Once you take those two (and I'd never skip them) why not take stamina? It also is very steady.

Besides, I have managed to make elec builds that still are so heavily offensive they suck dry their endurance even with stamina 3 slotted, power sink 3 slotted for recharge and energize 3 slotted for recharge/heal. Its usually because of spamming AoE but as a tank and in I16, you will find yourself doing that a lot!

Know the feeling

But seriously, on a side note, 45% is the soft cap for any foe (unless they are +6) but having more than 45% is not useless.

If you figh foes that have -def, on a blaster that has no -def resistance, you may get true benefit from extra defense over the cap since as soon as one debuff lands you start loosing defense and more blows land with more -def. Most guns do this, and there are a wide range of energy attacks (specially kheledian type like the high level PPD villains face a lot) that do the same.

Also, if a foe has a to-hit buff, like leadership, then you also get benefit from more def over the cap. These situations may actually be common depending on the type of foe you face. Nemesis lts cast vengance uppon defeat, and this gives all surviving Nemesis such to-hit buffs.

So you may not be crazy, you may have just tried against some foes that have +tohit. Heroside they are not that common, thoug. The biggest case tends to be Nemesis and you can just make sure to kill the lts last.

If you don't trust Wiki and also doubt that earth is round because Wiki notes it is, I guess we are forced to come up with some other form of evidence.

Thankfully Arcanaville has a very handy guide to how defense works in these forums!!!

Here is the link of the last version:
http://boards.cityofheroes.com/showthread.php?t=121258

For the record, that is the same poster that made the devs aware of the true issues with the ToHit system and how to fix it a long time ago.

I know bushido comes from the samurai, it means "the way of the warrior".

Also, the samurai was not that dedicated, not even in fiction where they portray him so proper and loyal. Samirai betraying their superiors was not any more rare than any other type of warrior. Even fiction make a lot of buz on ronin and even these ronin have their "bushido" even if they betrayed or abandoned their masters.

In the battlefiled, the samirai was just as practical as any other soldier, with the only exception of late adoption of fire-arms, yet they also used them. They started using Canons in the 16th century.

But I'm derailing because still fiction notes things you wrote:

First, off course, is the correction that Samurai were no kamikaze or mad bommers, they would fight to the end due to their honor and their goal to protect some one but they also were very aware that their fall would also be the fall of those he protects and therefore he would do all he could to stay alive and win the fight. How would that not fit a tank?

Brutes were designed with a semi-tank mentality and are played like that often although not always. They also fit perfectly the samurai/bushido.

Scrappers are much more selfish and care to just eliminate their target. The only difference they have from stalkers is they are more heads-on, something some ninja did (and stalkers also do here.)


Just not sure why would brutes love a team mini-buildup that didn't affect themselves...

OH I get it... he got angry at you for you spilling he had customizable Granite 90% done (despite HE telling us it was not possible to do) and then he threatened to spill about some bug and you went crazy hunting through whatever he may had posted to find this one and telling on yourself?

Guess i'm not alone on this.

Also, i can do as many dev-digest or community-digest requests as I want in a row without any timers but am locked from doing searches for 300 seconds or more.

And given the current level of PvP popularity, its almost granted added hardware will be cost effective.

Unless that same infrastructure also supports cross server PvE teaming, at that point the benefits would be huge!

A bit of a late reaction to this post, and a bit off topic, but I found that AE being in the middle of the RWZ was so... strange... I mean... a warzone... if you going so far into the odd stuff why not just add an AE room to Pocket D?