Solun_the_Hunter

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This is still a game and there is a player code of conduct and a EULA. There are still norms of decent behavior even in PvP games where players are trying to virtually kill each other.

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He never seemed to have been suspended or banned by the GMs so what does that tell you about your point?

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If the game is making you cry, time to step away from it.

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Ah, but she did not cry over the game. She has indicated on many occasions that she enjoys both the game and its PvP option. However, her tearful frustrations did come out of the specific malice of one individual, and that emotional impact does transcend the in-game/out-of-game boundary.

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Jesus, split hairs much?

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This was my main back in the day. Came back and called in alot of favors to buddies (id stripped all my IOs and hamis gave em away when I "left" never cancelled sub just stopped playin). He is not purpled out, but as good as he can be till then (crushin imps, procs, zingers, obliteration, mir, numina, regen tissue, pounding slugs, plus a few hamis like in rage).

He gets his kicked around alot. The biggest problem is versus negative energy (like 39%resists lol). I was thinkin frostworks is just what this toon needs in a 2v2 match to toughen him up.

I kept waitin for devs to fix brutes and taunt in PvP. They fixed taunt, and left brutes alone. Global changes are killin my elec.

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I think you are sticking too stubbornly to this toon.

It is really easy to level ANYTHING up with AE farms everywhere.

I think SS is a great primary if you throw rocks and sharks all day but you really need to go /fire or /invuln for secondary. I really haven't seen elec do much in PVP. Even one of the cooler things that /elec has going for it, the slow and recharge resist doesn't mean as much since /fire and /invuln can both take smaller versions of that resistance in their own sets and movement slows don't seem to do much anyways.

Just level up a SS/fire or SS/invuln brute, IO the crap out of him and throw some sharks and I think you will be a lot happier.

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That analogy still holds true if you go to WoW and the same person gives you grief there... or if you go to Siren's Call instead of RV, or if he, say, works on the hero side to grief a Hamidon raid the player is in. Limiting the player's options to non-PvP is still limiting options.

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Yeah but going to Siren's is still intentionally going to a PVP zone and that isn't really a different option. There are sooooooo many zones to level in besides the very small number of PVP zones. I won't even get started on what AE has done for making that even more true. Twixt could have easily interrupted her just by attacking her over and over and you could call that "limiting her options" but it really isn't, it is just using the zone for pvp which is why it is there. The heavies and easy xp you get from that zone is there because of the risks you have to take to be there.

Her option wasn't being limited so much as she wasn't willing to deal with the consequences of her decision.

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Dolly doesn't have trouble with PvP, as I understand it... just someone intentionally getting her debt and messing up her badging. (Not to mention taunting and posting these results.)

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Well she has a problem in so much as she wasn't wanting to participate in it and he was, which is always a common argument in that zone. Saying you don't want to PVP while standing in a PVP zone is always going to be a losing argument. The taunting and posting of his results is just him being an [censored].


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I was just thinking something similar earlier when I replied. There seems to be a thinking that "Twixt is wrong/bad/whatever, but anything goes in a PvP zone." And that's a contradiction. If anything goes, how was what Twixt did wrong? I don't consider the wrong he did separate from Dolly's reaction; he's responsible for messing with her 'escape' in a way that other PvPers didn't manage to do.

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It was bad what he did and it was very permissible in the pvp zone. It isn't a contradiction. They are just both equally true. Anything goes in PVP zones which is why he must have never been banned. Yet what he did was annoying and bad. They aren't contradictions, they are just both true statements that aren't mutually exclusive.

He was able to ruin her escape because I think most PVPers will just give up after killing you a few times, this guy seemed to just stay in the zone all day, every day like it was his job. Seems more like he was a sociopath instead of a PVPer.

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Either he did wrong and should answer for it, or he didn't do wrong, and it's on Dolly. For my two pennies, he did wrong.

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What he did was bad by the rules of socially accepted behavior but not wrong by the laws of the game unless we go into that grey area of harrassment. But that is kind of a hard case to make when in was just in this one PVP zone that she didn't have to be in.

You guys are trying to make this all black and white, and be avenging internet white knights for Dolly, and that is ridiculous. You need to let her know about letting people get to you and about focusing on what's important in life.

Twixt is just laughing at her pain right now, and he is laughing at all of you guys claiming what he did was an outrage.

If the game is making you cry, time to step away from it.

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But no one should go to my vacation spot and attempt to pass gas constantly in my direction, and then ask why I'm upset and don't go somewhere else... who's to say when I go somewhere else, someone won't do the same thing?

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But he really can't follow you to the other places if we are using that analogy. Twixt could only torment her in RV. You are saying that if she goes to Grandville, what is to say he won't follow her and stop her xp gain there? Oh wait, HE CAN'T. He can't follow her to RWZ and stop her xp gain, he can't follow her to Cim and stop her xp gain, etc, etc.

You guys have to separate the argument about what a huge [censored] Twixt is from the argument about whether you should continue to participate in a hobby that causes you to cry real tears.

Neither Lucifus nor I are defending Twixt's actions, and if someone was going to constantly try to harrass people, there are ways that the community and game designers can work on removing that person.

But if you are intentionally putting yourself into a PVP zone, intentionally coming out of your base and forcing your character into a situation where a person is going to tp it into things to make you cry IRL, and then you continue to just keep doing that and being really upset by it, then you really need to take inventory of your priorities.

The fact that Twixt was doing something bad and the fact that his "experiment" is an absolute joke are beside the point.

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I spent more than a couple of nights during later 2006 in real tears over some of the things that Twixt did to me.

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Don't you feel a bit silly about this part?

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I didn't read the wall of text but this part caught my eye. I don't find anything silly about it at all. This may just be a game but people have feelings, people get attached. People make friends.

This game is an investment of time. I remember back in the day when I invested so much hard work, planning, and time in to hami raids and a certain individual seemed hellbent on making that experience suck, while I never actually cried tears I can remember being extremely upset several times , about a video game. Emotions don't go away when you log in. People are people regardless.

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Hobbies are always an investment of time. One you are supposed to enjoy. When your hobby has you crying real life tears, it may be time to take a step back and assess what is really important in life.

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And that doesn't change the facts of the issue, which were that Twixt was, for lack of a better word, stalking her. How she feels about it are irrelevant. You're actually defending his actions because "it's just a game"?

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Twixt was definitely stalking her. He was definitely not being a nice person. Never once did I defend his actions.

And having stated that, I still stand behind what I said. It IS just a game and if you are crying real tears over it, you need to make some changes.

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I spent more than a couple of nights during later 2006 in real tears over some of the things that Twixt did to me.

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Don't you feel a bit silly about this part?

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I didn't read the wall of text but this part caught my eye. I don't find anything silly about it at all. This may just be a game but people have feelings, people get attached. People make friends.

This game is an investment of time. I remember back in the day when I invested so much hard work, planning, and time in to hami raids and a certain individual seemed hellbent on making that experience suck, while I never actually cried tears I can remember being extremely upset several times , about a video game. Emotions don't go away when you log in. People are people regardless.

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Hobbies are always an investment of time. One you are supposed to enjoy. When your hobby has you crying real life tears, it may be time to take a step back and assess what is really important in life.

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Me and Solun agree on something. Word.

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Hey, I'm not a complete [censored], I just play one on the interwebz.

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I spent more than a couple of nights during later 2006 in real tears over some of the things that Twixt did to me.

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Don't you feel a bit silly about this part?

loldefense

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+ rech proc in commando
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as for the heel, i'll agree with previous poster

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Pets are no longer affected by any +recharge so why would you want this in the commando?

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when'd they do that??!

... put ranged dmg procs i guess then...

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It was just recently. Check the patch notes. Maybe for i14, I can't remember.

But yeah, no +recharge affects pets at all anymore.

It would be ok if that only affected the force feedback IO but it also affects buffs from the mastermind's own sets like enforced morale which is BS.

I know that mastermind buff sets aren't just for your pets but it is annoying to me that I can get a power that my pets only partially benefit from.

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I think after playing for 4+ years my vet reward should be ... an auto level 50 toon.

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It would be awesome if you selected the auto level 50 toon then the next day, it gets tagged for deletion and you get a 3 day temp ban.

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+ rech proc in commando
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as for the heel, i'll agree with previous poster

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Pets are no longer affected by any +recharge so why would you want this in the commando?

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It's not optimal, but no MM build is bad solo. Trick Arrow has much better synergy with ranged focused pets like Mercs or Bots. There's some more info in the guide in my sig if you're interested.

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The melee aspect of some pet sets seems to screw up the synergy with TA.

TA doesn't do a whole lot to protect your pets from actual damage except for the ability to completely screw up the mobility of enemy mobs. That doesn't help much if your pets have to run into melee to fight them anyways. It helps a ton though if your pets just sit back and blast while the mobs run very, very slowly towards you.

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I vote you two start "something" together..

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Make it happen you two!

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dark/rad is the better team player

rad/dark is better solo

my 2 cents

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/Rad only edges /Dark in AV fights and not by much. I feel much more in control with my /Dark corr than my /Rad corr in most other team PvE situations. I haven't tried a Rad/Dark yet but it's a strong contender for my next character. I am trying the Defender version now and even that is pretty sweet... but it's no corruptor.

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Sorry zme but /rad doesn't edge /dark in AV fights, it beats it unconscious and goes through it pockets looking for money to spend on arcade machines.

/dark is universally more effective in 90% of fights. But in hard AV fights people will always be calling for the /rad. The number of LRSF tells i get is a damm good indicator of that.

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Uhhh, I would really like to see where you find /rad to be so much better. I am looking at stats on City of Data and I am just not seeing such a huge imbalance. (for AV's I mean)

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The two toggles and being able to permanently have Lingering rad on the target are what makes the difference.

In m opinion /Dark is the superior set for most of the game. But against AVs /rad steps up. That's based on my play experience more than running any numbers.

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Dark has toggles that mimic a lot of what rad does, especiallly with tar patch down. The only thing is no -defense but there are very few AV's I have ever had problems hitting. Lingering rad can be perma but during periods of howling twilight, which is equal to lingering rad, dark can still stack twilight grasps so that's even MORE -regen than rad.

Not saying dark is better just saying that rad certainly doesn't beat it up and take its lunch money.

Save the drama for yo momma.

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Man, this really IS the drama server.

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really? I mean really?

All the other drama on the server and THIS is the thread you make that comment on?

This is a forum equivalent of a slap fight.

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Judging from the fact you are arguing that I didn't even make my comment in the right thread, then yes. Thanks for Exhibit A.

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Dude, all you do is [censored] and whine. Come back when you have something of any sort of substance to say.

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Exhibit B

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Man, this really IS the drama server.

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really? I mean really?

All the other drama on the server and THIS is the thread you make that comment on?

This is a forum equivalent of a slap fight.

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Judging from the fact you are arguing that I didn't even make my comment in the right thread, then yes. Thanks for Exhibit A.

One pet should just be named "Regen".

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Or even /kinetics?

What would you combine them with?

I think I'd go with Bots/Rad and probably Ninja/Kin...

Here's hopin'...

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I'd give a lot for necro/rad.

A crap-ton of -tohit and some -res on target coupled with an aoe self heal and an aoe +dmg buff? Yes plz.

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Uhhh, I would really like to see where you find /rad to be so much better. I am looking at stats on City of Data and I am just not seeing such a huge imbalance. (for AV's I mean)

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Rad has a few advantages. The main thing most people would point out is the -regen from Lingering Rad, which can easily be made perma. Howling Twilight does the same -regen (which many people DON'T know) but has a longer recharge and, of course, costs you the use of it as a rez power if someone should die after you've just used it as a -regen debuff. Toggle debuffs are also easier to keep applied if the AV is mobile during the fight.

Personally, I don't think that constitutes a terrifically huge advantage. Both are great sets and I'm a fan of both, having played them each to 50. I won't dispute that more people think of Rad when they are loading up for AV hunting, but "common" sense isn't necessarily always good sense.

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Howling twilight is a click instead of a toggle but it has an 80 foot range and is autohit, so I wouldn't worry about AV's wandering around to where you couldn't use it. I mean, Jesus, how far off do your AV's wander?

And even though it isn't as perma-able a -regen as lingering rad, /dark also has stacking -regen from your twilight grasp and from your pet fluffy's twilight grasp as well...

Man, this really IS the drama server.

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And what's funny is as soon as rogue comes out there's gonna be more hero stalkers

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Ah, stalkers fighting stalkers. Pvp at it's finest!

When heroes have stalkers, and zone pvp "evolves" into mostly stalkers vs stalkers, people may figure out that stalkers were designed very poorly for pvp, and you will see a major redesign of the AT.

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It will be hilarious to see whatever stalker of either side doesn't have capped stealth and as soon as one stalker appears to AS him, an entire cascade of stalkers will appear right after to AS that one and so on. So each de-stealthing of one will lead to an explosion of sudden attacking and activity. Then right back to a seemingly empty zone.

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dark/rad is the better team player

rad/dark is better solo

my 2 cents

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/Rad only edges /Dark in AV fights and not by much. I feel much more in control with my /Dark corr than my /Rad corr in most other team PvE situations. I haven't tried a Rad/Dark yet but it's a strong contender for my next character. I am trying the Defender version now and even that is pretty sweet... but it's no corruptor.

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Sorry zme but /rad doesn't edge /dark in AV fights, it beats it unconscious and goes through it pockets looking for money to spend on arcade machines.

/dark is universally more effective in 90% of fights. But in hard AV fights people will always be calling for the /rad. The number of LRSF tells i get is a damm good indicator of that.

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Uhhh, I would really like to see where you find /rad to be so much better. I am looking at stats on City of Data and I am just not seeing such a huge imbalance. (for AV's I mean)