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Maybe the original post should be sent to Positron (or one of the Devs) in a PM? Not sure if the Devs read the Badges and Gladiator board, so maybe a little reminder to one of them of the impossibility of earning some of these badges might be in order. Just a thought.

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Some have gone the PM route already. Yes, I know that Positron reads this section (Hah! Even the forum purges are no match for my Search-Fu! ):
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It was a bunch of little stuff I hadn't even seen in the "big list of badge bugs" you guys are keeping on these forums (yes, I do read that).

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Anyways, as MadScientist has said, we are preparing for an "Official Badge Issues" thread in the coming weeks. In order to do that, we need to blow the dust off of a few topics. This just happens to be one of them.

As much as I know this topic amounts to a Flame War, hopefully this time it will be flagged not to be deleted.

Here goes:

Epic healing badges are nigh-impossible to get, with the last two only currently achieveable by one of the several AFK methods (Arena Farming, Lava Spas, Warming several MM & pets on a CoT Pain Crystal), but not by actual at keyboard playing.

In fact, several of us have predicted that if someone was going to dedicate themselves to getting the badge with aid other during play, that they would finally get it sometime around 2040. This upsets those classes without heals. On the flip side those with healing powers that are doing it "by the intent" would get the badge sometime between 2-5 years/365 days a year/around 4+ hours/day.

Given that is unhealthy at best, and destructive at worst, why is this allowed to continue?
- Would take 30 years for non-healers to get using Aid Other.
- Would take 2+ years of unhealthy play for the classes that CAN heal.
- Under 5 healing characters have earned Empath, most used multiple accounts.
- More characters have the Empath badge on characters that do not heal than those that do heal.
- Empath is 20 times the value of the 2nd last. Twenty times.
- Empath is ten times the amount of the last GROUP badge.

Epic damage taken badges are only slightly less insane than the healing badges.
- Even 10 million damage taken is afk farmed, let alone 1 billion. All the Epic damage badges suffer from this. (edit: I should point out that the 10 million damage taken badge is not in the epic group, but still only achievable by play post level 50.)
- Speaking of 10 million damage, that is needed for a villain accolade, which means it is unlikely to be achieved before 50, so there is no point to get the accolade. This is because an accolade earned at level 50 is only useable at level 50.

Epic Inf badges:
- Forces choice between character and SG, thanks to sgmode tax.
- The scale from the 1st Epic Inf badge to the last two is, frankly, dumb.
- Multiple-year commitment, we already have the Vet reward badges for that.

I have tried to present the above list with the least amount of personal bias. I ask the same from others. Please, please do not discuss afk farming, as everyone already knows that will only get this thread locked or deleted. If that happens, we lose yet again.

Are the Epics too high? Given that the flamewars only surround afk farming, not lowering the values of them, I am guessing that a lot of people would love to see these reduced.

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Zube is 50, and received most of his accolades after reaching 50. But when flashback is introduced, if a new accolade is made possible at a lower level, Zube could flashback and get it at an artificially lower level and have it when exemplaring in the future. But the accolades that were created after he reached 50 but before flashback was created will always be stuck at level 50 only.

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Sadly, I think I already know the answer to this question:
Any accolade earned while you are (trained or untrained) level 50, even if you are exemplaring at the time, will only be usable at level 50. This is how things work now. Any accolade will only record your natural level, I am guessing .

I took a level 32 defender who didn't have the Atlas Medalion through the Moonfire TF (max level 28), got the needed badges, and didn't have access to the accolade until I was my normal level.

I gather this is generally considered a "Well, duh!" topic as far as players are concerned?

Grr. A tiny bit late to add this to the list above:
Base Upkeep and you [I10] by Snow_Globe

What is upkeep?
Upkeep or rent (I use both for the same thing) is how much you owe in tribute to Lord Recluse for owning a base, or how much you owe city hall to keep your base powered. Either way, it is extortion .

How much is my upkeep?
Upkeep is based on plot size.

<font class="small">Code:[/color]<hr /><pre>Hidden Plots
Plot Name Plot Size Upkeep
Tiny Hidden Spot 8x8 0
Small Hidden Spot 8x12 20,000
Hidden Spot 12x12 43,000
Small Secret Location 12x16 65,000
Secret Location 16x16 105,000
Large Secret Location 16x20 145,000
Small Hidden Complex 20x20 200,000
Hidden Complex 20x24 280,000
Large Hidden Complex 24x24 350,000
Massive Hidden Complex 24x28 610,000

Secure Plots
Plot Name Plot Size Upkeep
Small Secure Location 12x16 200,000
Secure Location 16x16 420,000
Large Secure Location 16x20 750,000
Small Secure Complex 20x20 1,300,000
Secure Complex 20x24 2,100,000
Large Secure Complex 24x24 3,200,000
Massive Secure Complex 24x28 5,000,000</pre><hr />

What is the upkeep cycle?
Upkeep is paid based on the following cycle:

1. Base or upkeep cycle started
2. 2 weeks later upkeep notice appears (you could pay, but don't) (note 1)
3. 2 weeks after upkeep notice appears upkeep is due (again you could pay, but don't) (note 1)
4. 2 weeks after upkeep is due, base is powered down (do not pay until after base is powered down see note 2)
5. 2 weeks after base is powered down, base cannot be entered. (note 1). upkeep does not continue to increase if left for long periods during this time.

Note 1: After payment go to beginning of upkeep cycle (step 1).

Note 2: If paid after upkeep is due, but before base is shut down, upkeep cycle acts as if the due date was the start of cycle. So if you paid on day 13 after the upkeep was due, on day 14 you'd get the new upkeep notice.

When is the ideal time to pay?
The ideal time to pay the upkeep is a few minutes after the base powers down

The base portal says upkeep is due, but the group registrar says I have no upkeep owing. What do I do?
If the base is claiming upkeep is due, but the registrar says you do not owe or your base is on the basic plot, you need to send a /petition to get the GMs to open the base.

Where are the Registrars?
To pay your upkeep you have to visit one of three group registrars:
Villains: In the building at the Port Oakes Marconville marker.
Heroes: In the city hall in Atlas Park, or in the Freedom Corps building in Galaxy City.

((Edited to fix up table format.))

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The game should allow you to use the Accolades you have earned regardless of your current level.

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Not going to get a disagreement from me.

Done.

Heh, forgot badges . Also got rid of duplicate links.

Can anyone tell me if there are any broken links, and should I keep the issue tags? Are there any links that are outdated to the point of being useless?

I think that should be the finished copy.

Though if anyone thinks I missed something, please let me know .

Where to start? I know! I'll grab what Zombie_Man has in the "Guide to Guides", and add a few links .

Note: Don't use the quote function of the forums on this post, as you will get a bunch of html code. I have to keep a seperate text file outside the forums to keep for editing.

Consolidated Reviews of base issues
NOTE: Ex Libris has kindly marked all the threads in this group to not be deleted so we won't experience the same problem we did with the Post I9 Review.
<ul type="square">Official Base Feedback for Ex Libris--by Mad Scientist
Consolidated List of Base Suggestions--by Nemesis
Consolidated Discussion - Teleporter improvements--by Mad Scientist
Consolidated thread - Base growth steps--by Mad Scientist
Consolidated Thread - SG Missions--by Mad Scientist
Consolidated Base Editor Requests--by Jagged

Consolidated Empowerment Station Thread--by Mad Scientist
Consolidated Storage Thread--by Mad Scientist
focused discussion on Startup Costs and Base Growth--by Mad Scientist
Consolidated SG Issues--by Mad Scientist
Consolidated Plot Cost discussion--by Snow_Globe
Consolidated Room discussions--by Snow_Globe[/list]
In this section:
Note: Ex Libris has kindly marked all the threads in this group to not be deleted.
<ul type="square">Post your Sexy (small) base pics?
Post Your Sexy Base Pics!!!!
Base Items We'd Like To See..
Base Items We'd Like To See, Mk. 2[/list]
Super (villain) groups and bases
Note: Not marked, but in the Guides section or links to outside websites.
<ul type="square">[*]Creating a group
Creating and managing a Supergroup by VoodooGirl [I6]
Guide To Getting a SuperGroup Off the Ground by Moncro [I2]
[*]Creating a base
The Teqnikal Way to Build a Base v1.0 by _Teqnikal_ [I7]
Falcon Blasters Guide to SG and Base Success by magglecrisp [I7]
The Lil_Miss' Guide to Bases (Super_Villain) by [I6]
Some Basic Tips For Base Design by Takarik [I6]
Guide to stacking items in bases by CaptA [I8]
Guide to Base Teleporters by CaptA.
Guide to base building for the small SG by born2luz [I8]
A Guide to Small Bases in Issue 7 by Jagged [I7]
Single-member and/or Starter Base Building Guide by tiredinnuendo [I7]
A guide to giving your landlord the shaft! by Dark_Tower [I8]
Base Builders Inc.
[*]General base costs
Red Tomax's Guide to City of Heroes Website [I9] - Contains listing of all base items and components.
Base costs spreadsheet by Madscientist.
A List of Base Item Costs by (Justice Corps of Paragon City) [I6]
List of Base Item Costs by Maldini [I6]
List of Base Room Costs and Functionalities by Maldini [I6]
[*]Base cost calculators (Excel files)
Base cost calculator 0.8 by Snow_Globe [I10] (Not very pretty, but consider this open source), based on Madscientist's sheet.
The above cleaned up. by Stephan_Ganges [I10], based on the above spreadsheet.
Verbose version by Stephan_Ganges [I10], based on the above spreadsheet.
[*]Base salvage and crafting
Magic Salvage Paragonwiki
Natural Salvage Paragonwiki
Science Salvage Paragonwiki
Tech Salvage Paragonwiki
Mutant Salvage at Paragonwiki
Sapph's Salvage Chart by Sapph [I6]
Guide to Salvage &amp; Crafting by _Brev_ [I6]
Salvage Rarity guide by MadScientist [I6]
A List of Salvage Types by (Justice Corps of Paragon City) [I6]
A List of Tech Salvage Recipes by (Justice Corps of Paragon City) [I6]
The Salvage Trackers' Guide by Balanced [I6]
What To Do With All That Base Salvage : Prototype by Dragon_Surge [I7]
What To Do With All That Base Salvage :Hardware by Dragon_Surge [I7]
What To Do With All That Base Salvage : Material by Dragon_Surge [I7]
What To Do With All That Base Salvage : Power by Dragon_Surge [I7]
PDF Recipe List - Tech &amp; Arcane by Altoholic_Monkey [I6]
The guide to Arcane Salvage (download) by Arinara [I6]
Guide to Empowerment Stations by pudds [I7]
Defensive Items for Bases by Azrhiaz
[*]Group badges
Supergroup Badges Badge-Hunter
Supergroup Achievement Badges Paragonwiki
CoV Supergroup Exploration Badges Paragonwiki
CoH Supergroup Exploration Badges Paragonwiki[/list]

Hello everyone, it seems that gremlins ate the proper clue for 14 Across "Nemesis has many of these." The clues 14-16 should have been 15-17 in last weeks crossword puzzle.

You can refresh the Puzzle pages for last week's solutions for the corrected versions, or you can use these links to get the proper versions:

Full Color Crossword Solution
Black and White Crossword Solution

I would like to thank Snorii for pointing out the mistake.

Hello everyone, it seems that gremlins ate the proper clue for 14 Across "Nemesis has many of these." The clues 14-16 should have been 15-17.

You can refresh the Puzzle page for a corrected version, or you can use these links to get the proper versions:

Full Color Crossword
Black and White Crossword
Full Color Crossword Solution
Black and White Crossword Solution

I would like to thank Snorii for pointing out the mistake.

Major base bug: Bases locked for rent due, yet not payable at the registrar.

I am sure this is causing a lot of (needless) petitions.

This happens with major patches or base that have expanded and contracted then left for a while.

The registrar should check to see if the base is locked. If it is and the base is a 8x8 plot it should unlock the base either for free, or a nominal fee (maybe a few thousand prestige, no more than 5,000 prestige).

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One that I didn't see. Please make empowerment buffs into a click temp power (1 charge) so that we can build them and activate them when needed rather than have them running as soon as they are created.

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Love this idea. Especially since most of those buffs last 15 minutes or so.

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They last for 60 minutes, not 15. What you are reading is a text error.

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It's just a clean-up move that has nothing to do with i11. Comment was made in another thread about this merging.

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Who said that? I read that post that said that Ex wanted to do this for a long time. In fact, that suggests that since she just got approval now, that there might be ulterior motives.

/tin foil hat

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It was suggested quite a while ago. I gather that monster thread was pretty much the last straw(tm).

Just random timing, no hidden motives. You are far too paranoid.

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I wish we could sell them for prestige.

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Yes, that was the hope.

To put this into perspective, here is a sampling of the groups I'm with:
Hero group 1: has 8 full Enhancement bins, 2 full inspiration bins.
Hero group 2: has 5 full Enhancement bins, 1 full inspiration bins.
Hero group 3: has 3 mostly full Enhancement bins, 1 full inspiration bin.

Villain group 1: has 5-6 full Enhancement bins, 2 full inspiration bins.
Villain group 2: has 1 almost full Enhancement bin, 2 mostly full inspiration bins.

That is a lot of enhancements, and inspirations that sit around doing nothing except withholding prestige.

The base could be set up so that after 60 days any enhancement gets sold, and after 90 days the inspirations get sold with all proceeds being returned to the group as extra prestige. Or let the leaders disable the selling if they choose to.

This way people could still donate to the group, yet prevent the bases getting cluttered with junk.

There is a problem a few of my groups are facing: Storage Creep.

This is where people donate to the Insp/Enhancement bins and never take anything out, yet when someone does take a bunch of ____ insps or ____ enhancements, some people get cranky.

There should be a base setting that group leaders can change so that unused items eventually get auto-sold and the proceeds be credited to the group.

Example:
Inspiration bins []Indefinite or [__] Days before being sold.
Enhancement bins []Indefinite or [__] Days before being sold.

This would also eliminate all the "orphan" IOs like confuse that no one seems to want, no one buys, yet are overstocked because of badge hunters.

About 6-10 people in my group going after the IO badges on multiple characters, yet some refuse to sell back to the auction houses. Then again, no one is buying the "junk" enhancements.

It is a complete. In other words when the task force is done, invasion happens.

On the other hand, it should not just be one zone, but two. One random attack for both sides. Also it should be delayed for a few minutes so that those that did the Task Force could have time to participate in the invasion they called down. (2 inf)

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... We'd love a girlfriend for LiquidX &gt;.&gt;

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No, we don't want to be guilty of crimes against humanity by allowing you to procreate .

Can you edit that post? It is breaking the forum margins. Take out some of the "O"s.

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I'm laughing at this whole thread. Seriously.

I do not doubt that most, if not all, of the above speculation is wrong. Time will tell.

Also, I am suprised that no one has mentioned Dr. Aeon (the mad scientist that time travels) or Dr. Creed yet.

My final thought about this post: The PWNZers could learn much from you about inciting people to post .

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1) It seems the contaminated will filter in small groups around select zones in both sides of CoX. Thus making the badge attainable for past heroes who did not have the opportunity for it and for villains to now attain it. (i.e. City Sewers, hanging out with Lost...and "heading to Sharkhead Isles")

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Oh, now that would tick a lot of people off. Which is, again, why I think that everyone is thinking too much of this.

Simply a Cryptic goodbye .

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Something tells me that this means, "Hope that you enjoy Issue 11... it'll be the last."

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Doubful.

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The only other option is that they are going to completely replace all of the contacts with new ones with new storylines, but that would take a ton of work coding-wise; a revamp that I don't see happening in this game, especially with MUO in the works.

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Or maybe, just maybe, they need to replace a writer.

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I'm afraid that this may be the signal to the start of the end times of CoH/CoV. It's the only explanation for such contradictory and complete revisionist storyline.

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It is called an in-joke.

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I do believe you have "killed off" every single CoH and CoV contact there. (edit: If not, very close to all of them.)

I guess it is your way of saying goodbye, huh?

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Doom??? They are turning off the servers because the transfer did not work. It is the end of CoX. Doom!!!

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No, I suspect just characters he created for the City of ______ Franchise.

And after checking, it isn't close to all of the contacts, but a very large group of them.