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Fistly, I want to remind people that this change is for testing. Getting angry, whining etc serve no purpose here: save it for the live version, if appropiate.

Reasoned aguments, evidence from testing, and alternatives are what are needed here.

So, I've made up a little list of alternative options:

1) Make the crash -50 max end. Those who have fought vanguard know this is still quite tough, as it would halve the rate of end recovery, but it would still alow recovery and toggles to break even.

2) Increase the recharge on Rage so it can't be stacked. That would mean the -25 end drop at the end couldn't be avioded. This could also be done by making it's recharge unbuffable.

3) Make the crash -dmg -recharge -move speed. If you are tied you won't move so quickly.

4) Instead of a to hit buff, give rage a -5% to-hit debuff. Remove the crash all together. All that angry flailing about sould make you less likely to hit, not more.

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1. Half would still be somewhat unfair, just actualy like current -def is. Some sets have a way higher end-rec or other ways of regaining endurance.
2. Make the recharge un-enhanceble, like the WP tier 9 power.
3. Hm i like that one, works perfect with my granite as he already have massive -slow and some -dmg
4. themewise perhaps, but it will become way to weak compared to the build-up of all other secondairies (or primairies).

Or just ditch the entire power and give SS a normal BU like all other sets (dark melee excluded).

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After much though I think they should cap end recovery at 1 end per sec or have it stalled for 5 secs and go focus on something the whole playerbase might like. There was a lot of thought before there was a [censored] it

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Quite funny that it actualy affect only 1 set.. Tanker SS. Brute doesnt need the damage, they have the tripple ammount easy with fury. Only accuracy might be usefull (tankers can get FA).

On the other hand, i like this sort of attention, or at least for now. It means they also look at little left in a corner crying powers that they maybe give some extra attention. (like why make such ammount of changes to Mace, while maybe at top 10% of all tankers, hence 1% of the entire playerbase, is actualy playing mace?). It will also be SL, always be a weapon. As long it has the stupid redraw, no thx for me. (i already fed up enough with all redraw sets i currently have - with merc/TA/mu hitting the max).

Hm, makes transference again the 'benefit' above the others (afaik the only 'friendly' end-transfer power).

Oh well, lets see how long this version will last

I was just reading back, Max Recovery = 0.00% was said.

Isnt the Nuke of Blasters also with the same 'debuff'? If blasters getting heavely buffed with +rec they can overcome the no-regen. (or that was just a -1000% recovery?)

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OMG

This whining really makes me angry.

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Just for the record.. how long do you play this game?
Or you are one of those people that run around with Perma rage and call himself a true teamtanker?

I was already highly amused by your post about AR
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Considering the really nice changes to the archery and trick arrow set to animation times, it makes me wonder why assault rifle wasnt changed, which was and is much more unblanced than ta or archery ever was.

Comparing assault rifle to other sets, the damg is lower the end cost AND recharge much higher and the animation time almost tripple to other sets.

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I serious dont think you even know power normalisation recently done, and by FAR not the true potention of AR. (trust me, i can outdamage many people with my AR).

The new casting times of Mace, that been added/changed a while ago. Afaik other changed were reverted except casting times of mace. (was a redname list, old and new casting).

From TA it would be intangle, ice and flash arrow, all the others are debuffs (-res, -dmg, -def, KD, massive AoE hold) wich no other secondairy has of blasters.

As for corrupters, i believe dev's mentioned they want to keep certain sets 1 side only, such as EA, elec, empath or the thermal/ice support. Exception would be MM, where it is one of the 'gimped' sets of the MM (weapon redraw for the loss!).

From /dev you can pick quite alot powers as themed Archery blaster, true that you cant make a medival or ancient style kind but its probably the closest (next to nrg) you can get.

*slap himself* how can i forget boost range..

/Trap, Detonator + soul extract ftw!

And poison trap is just insanely strong, combined with seekers, the mez-bubble, the res/def debuff, calltrops, webnade, tripmine (really works good). I love this set alot.

(lvl43 merc/TA, lvl39 necro/trap, lvl36 bot/psn, lvl24 nin/dark, lvl21 thug/dark)

NRG has powerboost, nuf said
Powerboosted holds, powerboosted stuns, powerboosted aid self, powerboosted traveling, powerboosted draining.

So yeah, elec has more dmg, nrg has powerboost

Robin hood would be TA/Arch. But in high-tech style

Anyway, you dont have to pick all powers, like my AR/ice only has 3 powers of /Ice. Calltrops and webnade imho would suit any theme (robin hood would trow a can of spider-thingie, stickkkkky).

Same goes with /energy, boostrange you have the vision of an eagle, with high increased range. Powerboost will give you the will of the .. some pet, increasing your abilities. Buildup the power of the bear, superstrength! Conserve dunno.. also some pet.

As for sonic, there is no sonic melee or controllish (no, resist buffs are not included). That would be a entire new set. Many pick nrg or elec.

I though EA tier9 had a +HP, DA has heal power right?

Merc/TA...
*sits in a corner crying*

As 3 MM's already can cause mayhem, i would pick Corrupter to increase your defence.

Corrupter i would say thermal, ice or sonic. Those 3 got great buffs for all pets, sonic also a huge aoe mezz/resist bubble, thermal has AoE healing. Both ice and thermal are quite strong against EB/AV's. Ice is defence based, thermal and sonic resist based (ice would stack lovely with traps Forcefield and dark great -acc). Primairy is free choice, what she like to play. (AR is plain fun, specialy as support)

Domi is more AoE lockdown, something you guys should be able to do already, has little support to the team.

-recovery? Crazy?
Inv and Fire, fighting pool, CJ/Acro, hence FA.. no way you survive 10 seconds. Ok, fire got costume, but it requires tohit. Ice would be save, with that end-drain power. Inv is fooked, only conserve might work.

Each debuff they would apply affect some set negative. -acc would be Fire vs Ice (fire is nearly all tohit check), -def is resist vs defence sets, -recov is toggles vs drain/little toggle.

-recovery is part of a Nova power, doesnt fit a power as rage.

Why not just a -50% HP/end crash? Only fire and elec would be in negative way as they have no +hp power, yet fire has healing flames.

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i don't see what is wrong with rage as it is now.

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There basicly wasnt, outside the 'wrong timing' moments. But this change is nice, i like

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If you insist to 'bad-mouth' someone or single them out, please keep it to yourself as the rest of us do not care for you own personal judgement of someone; based on a game perception but nevertheless, still judgement.


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Correction, 'you' dont care. As for the personal judgement, I rather call it.. common fact.

Freedom of speech my friend, bad-mouthing as you may call it, i just call it 'stating the facts'.

Personal oppinion? No, that 'punishment' wasnt enough.

Now, there ya go.. without bad words i gave a reply. Be smart, dont reply with little whining kid yadieya.. then you just brake your own rules

I like i like! So you can continue your agro management, just at a 0-damage rate (Footstomp woooo).

But, yet, however, although.. hmm right.

I feel weird about all these Mace changes, the numbers start to get far above Axe now. Dispite Axe has more control (KU/KD), damage(DPS)wise i feel weird about it.

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But seriously how many chances have we given him..... *gets out calculator*

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While that is true i still think everyone should have waited to attack until it was needed, and i doubt we would have waited long

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Or never had the chance, and now finaly having the chance

i have 2heal/2rech/2int, all lvl45 IO's wich give just under ED values. Works pretty nice, as the retarted medic leaves me for healing my mercs.

All fixed, while i was at it i ordered a new server
Doing 12-14 hours work a day, i have little to no time to get it shorted properly.

2 more weeks and finaly get some rest again...

*runs away, sits in a corner crying*

How could i be mistaken on that... my apologies...

http://coh.redtomax.com/powersets/powersets.php

Under Mastermind_pets you can see all its powers. Smokeflash or whatever the primairy power is called (10sec crit.damage nonstop) really is awsome when your genin does that firebreath power, lovely damage. His mez powers become the containment version of fire trollers

I always pick Inv as scranker/tanker/hybrid example, taking every single power of the Inv set, add tough/weave, medicine, fitness, speed, SJ, energy pool (FA, beam, conserve), i dont think you have much slots left to take any 'hybrid' powers.

Dropping medicine/weave and pop in few more attacks, tend to go more hybrid.

Dropping tough, taunt, auto resist powers, unstop maybe and taking more attacks would tend to be more of a scranker (basicly by having resist numbers of a inv scrapper).

Some sets are just too difficult to be both great tanker as a fast-solo-scranker, like a inv/DB or a WP/fire. (without taking IO's to compensate lacks).

Then again, does it mather?

Sadly, though your case luckely, there is a huge difference in the sets at low lvl. A set Inv is pretty much gimped at low lvl due lack of any form of mez-resist. WP has basicly all the juicy powers in the first few lvls, where the others get their juice at way later lvl. Ice just is a pain in the end-hog-butty and Stone has to pop in and out of Rooted to prevent mezzing.

Imho, at your lvl the only difference between u and a troller is more HP and some little resist/defence.

WP seems very start-friendly, out of the box it got quite nice specs together with some endruance loving and strong solobility.

Thorn has a plus, having -defence it accept the Proc chance to resist debuff. Makes a quite nice increase of damage.