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Going extreme on assumptions here, by the look of the numbers, Asia is expecting a massive increase of revenue on Aion (korea), wich combined with LA/LA2 and their mini-games would go beyond 90% of total revenue of the entire NC corporation. (currently holds about 73% of total revenue).

If Aion indeed will be a succes and provided US/Europe gets Aion not before 2010, numbers go towards 90% revenue from asia alone (US/Europe have about 15% atm), basicly making the games only usefull 'to keep em alive but stop all english development'.

Meh, i just sit back and see what will happen.. Got enough stuff for the next few months to enjoy myself, or just learn Korean language.

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For Europe as a whole, the key thing to look at is the Equity Method Gain/Loss Breakdown.

NC Europe, first quarter 2008, up 80 Kr Mn Won. Hurrah! But then, second quarter it's down 1,060, and then down 2,629 in the third quarter, and then in the fourth quarter it drops even more, down 3,496... 2008 overall, it's down 7,105. (7,105 million korean won is about 3.5 million pounds).

There's a similar trend in quarterly sales - 8,891 in 1Q, then 5,251, 4,955, 3,358 over the following quarters.

For comparison, NC Interactive were up 1,416 Kr Mn Won in the fourth quarter and up 3,623 in 2008.

So basically, sales, and the value of the parent's investment in NC Europe appears to be dropping alarmingly at an increasing rate. D'oh.

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Tonight i go sit down and listen to Q4 numbers, but based on the whole story of Q3, i think its the best for us and NC just to leave the Europe region.

Gamecon is in battle with gamecom, although recently the final verdict was made and Gamecon is canceled, so no big winner there. The advertisement in Europe is very hard, due language, local laws, currency, distribution etc.

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Interestingly, the report for the last quarter should be out any day now...

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Independent sources indicate that it's within the next 4 days. Or is it today?

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Just been checking it out, and it looks like it's definitely tomorrow. The Investor Relations part of the NCSoft website has the '4Q FY 2008 Earnings Conference Call' event listed for tomorrow morning.

So, sudden and apparently unexpected cuts in staff, days before an earnings report released on Friday 13th. I don't think it's going out on a limb to predict that it might not be a good earnings report...

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i dont know the exact date of last year revamp, but in Q3 conference, wich was held november, nothing was ever said about brighton, even 'headcount' remained the same (people as FPU).

I listend the entire conference, if i get 1 month sub for each time they did mention brighton, then i g2g a sec and up my sub again, no free months for me.

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In particular, it's going to take a few days at least until the various studios (NCNC included) know who will be taking up offers in the US and who will be taking the voluntary redundancy.

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So, from my own assumption, they wont make a big scale team for Aion Europe, why would they first kick out 50 people (sort of) and then rehire a bunch to cover Aion, while their current people already know the going in NCsoft?

Its not only CoH i care about, its NCsoft versus Europe as whole. Clearing an entire office while having 2 major games comming, just doesnt make any sence.

Just out of curiosity, how many are now left in Brighton?

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But from Korea to USA it's 6,543 miles...The distance from Korea to England is only 5,483 miles.

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Face it, US still believe they are 'the center' of all business, hiding from the insane economic crisis they going through

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Thanks for the well wishes, everyone.

My position is 'potentially redundant' within the Brighton office, and at the current time I intend to accept voluntary redundancy. I'm not interested in living in the US.

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Be sure, if you decide to kick a CEO of NC in the nuts, to give a firm extra one on behalf of me.

I still hope, probably more then hope, they can work things out for you on the Europe office, may it be for another game or kind of job.

But also, to those all behind the scene, all the best and good luck on anything you may go do.

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This speculation is getting more and more far fetched...

Lets just stop, breathe slowly and await the official word on what will happen.

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Without official word, a very common responce is speculating.

If this indeed was planned already last year, they at least had plenty of time to prepare a decent announcement for the players. Leaving them in the dark, from 1 day on another, with still the bitter taste of last year, aint doing good at all.

Maybe, hope hope *finger crossed*, ghost raptor can continue work to the upcomming Aion? If i would leave CoX, Aion would be the reason.

Added, NCWest, its like 9am in the morning there now?

Maybe, hope hope *finger crossed*, ghost raptor can continue work to the upcomming Aion? If i would leave CoX, Aion would be the reason.

Added, NCWest, its like 9am in the morning there now?

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The Servers slightly less so, mainly due to the time difference (you get a fair few After School Special teams which can be... odd). But if there was an (un)official EU server it'd mitigate that more.

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The (un) part will be very unlikely, NC keeps the serverstuff pretty secured (ok, LA2 excluded, but they activly hunt for em).

Ok, forums are bitty weird (due timezone too), the servers itself are ok, they have few more stuff then we have such as the sewer hunts. You just need to blend in a bit

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If I lose toons, IO's, Vet Awards or can't keep any of the names of any of my toons, thats me done.

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Me think, if there will be a merge, it will be just a entire shifting of our 4 servers to the US datacenter. (i asume 1 rack would be sufficient to host the entire EU community, or even fill up an exsisting one).

Bright side, AH will probably be faster that way, since it doesnt have to communicate anymore between 2 continents.

Ironicly speaking, as was also said on the US side, Europe players have often more lag then on the US, but there seems to be more MMO's hosted in Germany that suffer the same issues atm. (faulty switch or something in the infrastructure).

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Jeg er ked af det, jeg taler ikke dansk. Je ne parle non plus de français très bien, No digo el español tampoco, Oder Deutsch! I do, however, speak English

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You what any veggies with the cheeseburger?

Err no.

Paypal is recurring, if i try to reactive 1 of my accounts, i have teh option:

Paypal:
Automatically recur. (You will be charged once your included bonus time or previously paid time expires.)

Ok, and confirmed, packs, upgrades etc are also payable with paypal.

03/29/05, damn, my US account is even older then my EU account o.0

Monthly sub can be also payed with paypal now. Maybe the packs and addons also?

(afaik i did buy valkery pack and wedding pack with paypal).

Even in the Q3 conference i'm listening (nov 08), CoX is hardly spoken about, neither any word about the brighton cleaning. Even when they talked about 'the new MMO's in the pipeline', the already known GW2 and Soul&Blade were mentioned but very little about CoX itself or a possible 'update'. As CoX was a failure in Korea/asia, i wonder if they even care about it..

More worried, yet i hope this changed by now, was the fact they NC Korea did not spend any money on advertising the game, with only a few minor website thingies few days before beta. They are very supriced and interested in this 'method', with little expend they had a new Korean record. Now i serious dont hope they will 'copy' this idea to US/Europe, we just aint the same as Korea (or asia as whole). So even if they say they will focus NC Brighton as a more commerical part of NCWest, i wonder if they actualy will start mass advertising.

Did you know Europe only contributed 6% of total profit NCsoft made? (korea 59% .. wow).

Ya, i was listening to Q3 conference call

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Although its still akward quiet from GR atm

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Aion's doing well by all accounts but don't be hard on GR. He only got the news today himself and it's his job that's gone belly up. Give the bloke a break

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Aion is doing good in korea, europe/US is a far far different story.

Anyway, is it 100% sure GR is a goner too? o.0

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GhostRaptor would only be out of work if the forums were closed.

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As far as I understand it the Forums aren't all of his job, or even the major part

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But it's also highly unlikely they'd have an un-modded offical forum.

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Surely they can take the coffee-lady and put her behind a computer for like 30 minutes a day to trash.. er clean the forums?

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Although its still akward quiet from GR atm

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Aion's doing well by all accounts but don't be hard on GR. He only got the news today himself and it's his job that's gone belly up. Give the bloke a break

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Aion is doing good in korea, europe/US is a far far different story.

Anyway, is it 100% sure GR is a goner too? o.0

Iirc after you bought it, it asks you straight away if you want to apply the code to an account. If you do so, it will show all available accounts (if you have more then 1), hit apply and its done.

Hmm.. the secure.plaync.com website aint working here

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Your forgetting the auto assault farce before that, most of the old AA subscriber base went to TR.

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And rumors in europe already gues Aion wont be a big hit either.

When will NC start scratching their heads and wonder why... No freaking advertisment. Today games wont sell themself anymore, TR became a very solid game but they have never put any real advertisement in it. Neither they did on CoX, GW had a name established ages again along with LA(2).

Then again, it was partly expected back when the first bomb hit Brighton. NCwest was made, it even amazed me they still have devs in Europe working on the game.

Although its still akward quiet from GR atm

Eventualy, the red weapons are equal to blue-ish lvl50 weapons, so they are not like uberpowered. I think they just want many to hit 50, so at least they do can see glimps of the end-content as it now (earth baby!!).

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You but server transfers at the charater select screen.

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Yes, you but them

Isnt that -project command removed long ago?

My gf from SG always used this line to connect, but shortly after CoV release it didnt work anymore.

Nope