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No.

Shriek, Scream, E-Fence is better

You fight Recluse at the end of the last patron arc, as with everything in the game you can attempt to solo him as either and AV or an EB, or you can gather a team.

Praetoria is an alternate world (Upsilon Beta 9-6)
Shadow World is an alternate world (Zeta Tao 7-63)
Clockwork World is an alternate world (Epsilon Tau 27-2)

You access these through a dimensional portal.

Recluse's Victory is a potential future for Primal Earth (our world) which you access through a time portal, learn the difference.

Edit: also by your logic Praetoria doesn't "count" either, making the whole GR expansion pointless. Have a nice day!

Then I guess we both percieve the character in different manners and can only agree to disagree *shrug*

GW's arc does suggest that the player character and Recluse kill each other, but Scirocco's doesn't. I'm sure neither do BS's or Mako, I'll have to check the souvenirs on the characters that have done them

Yes, which means that for all we know he's still alive and in charge after you return to the present, and that the present Recluse agrees to leave you alone; he''ll just have to find someone else to use in Project: DESTINY

I guess the name of *DARWIN's* Landing is just pure coincidence then. Also, I wonder what Kalinda's entire purpose is...

It can be argued that it's an alternate future as much as it can be argued that it is THE future, so they do very much count. We see futures where Recluse defeats his archnemesis Statesman (which is what successful villains do) but do we ever et to see a future where the good guys win?

Lord Recluse is the ruler of the Rogue Isles. If we're just gonna start ignoring and disregarding established canon facts for the heck of it, then I'm not sure how to continue the discussion.

You don't beat him at his strongest. If anything it could be argued that you beat him at his weakest, after he's worn out and weakened from the huge Earth-shattering war that only he survived. Compare the Recluse we fight at the end of the patron arc to the one we fight in the STF. Recluse at his strongest? uh, no.

He kills Statesman and wipes out the Phalanx in the future.

We never explicitly get RECLUSE IS DEAD like we do with other characters that have been killed in canon, therefore my point of that "defeat" being abstract still stands.

Except that timeline already came to pass in other planes (which can be confirmed by entities who experience time in a non-linear manner). Wether or not that timeline will come to pass in our plane remains to be seen, it would be simply absurd to arbitrarily claim that "it never comes to pass", especially since there's an entire freakin zone in the game where it happened. Notice that you access this zone from a Time Portal, which is a different portal (in both sides) than the ones we use to travel to alternate dimensions

He doesn't destroy the world himself, but he indeed does his big part in causing the world to be destroyed (an Earth shattering war between Arachnos, The Council, CoT, The surviving Phalanx and several other factions that we see in the destroyed AP of the LRSF 3rd mission). In the end he does stand triumphant over what little world there is left, until the player character intervenes and "defeats" him (defeat being abstract, this game isn't afraid of using the words "Death, or Kill" such as the case in Huntsman Ohanko, Lt Tendaji and several other characters who are explicitly said to be dead, and the dead is never caused by the player character (except maybe in the mission where you fail to rescue a Nemesis Defector)). Saying that the player character "slays" Recluse is bending an interpretation to better fit your point, for all we know Recluse was beaten up and had his helmet taken off, but is still in charge after the player character returns home.

A successful villain triumphs over his enemies, and "get him to abandon his plans" again is just a convenient interpretation. Future day Recluse may as well still be in charge after the player character returns to the present, and present Recluse will still carry out his plans, he just won't mess with you, but there's always someone else to use as a sacrificial lamb

He would've not failed, per se. The world was destroyed by a massive scale war between the super powered faction (caused mostly by him, granted) but if the player character doesn't intervene, Recluse remains king of what little of the world is left

Not quite. His main goal is to make himself the most powerful metahuman, his strategy is using the Web Device and Power Towers in Grandville. Beating the crap out of everyone who gets in the way is only an objective in the mission

Well gee, how about "Gather the world's mosty ruthless criminals in a place aptly named Darwin's Landing, weed out the weak ones and recruit the bad@55 into certain Project: DESTINY (which in turn was concieved by gathering a group of psyhics/seers known as "Fortunatas" to figure out how he can make the future in which he wins, come true), to aid him in the defeat of his archnemesis and eventual world domination. The only thing that prevents him from doing this is are his angsty lieutenats and the player character (along with 7 more allies usually).

It is suggested that they are merely a bump in the road though, since we see the current Arachnos Patrons getting replaced by Mu Drakhan, Shadow Spider, Viridian and Regent Korol.

That seems pretty elaborate to me.

As multiple missions that take place in the future (including the 3rd mission of the LRSF), Recluse does succeed in conquering the world (what little there is left to conquer anyways) and wiping out half the Phalanx (Statesman, Positron, Synapse, Citadel) while only Manticore, Sister Psyche, Back Alley Brawler and Numina struggle to survive the ensuing chaos.

He rules an entire hell hole full of super powered villains and he has managed to keep them in check, while staying in power (something which bothers many players that they're forced to live under Recluse's grasp I admit). He's the leader of an organization that encourages treachery and betrayal, yet he has managed to keep the important majority loyal to him

I missed the part where Cobra Commander succeeds in his plans and manages to keep his lackeys loyal to him.

Survival of the fittest and world domination through superior science and technology combined with mystical arts (which he DOES accomplish in the future) seems perfectly fine to me for a super villain.

He doesn't have to, you could argue that his ideals of "survival of the fittest" have elements of both (depending on who's the strongest element)

I wouldn't know anything about fashion, I'm a straight male so I won't argue on that one.

Debuff powers from debuff sets, whose primary function is to debuff (such as Envenom), usually don't stack from the same caster. I don't know for sure as I've never played Poison, but that's probably it.