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Quote:If its like first ward, people will gather there for the first month, decide chaining Dfb's and posi's blueside is faster and go back to that.Originally Posted by Neuronia
Redside is low-pop for sure, but I've found I can get on a few teams running sewers until 20 or so, then hop into Drowning in Blood while running story arcs in between. I mostly run red on Infinity and I've not had a problem yet finding teams in between a half-dozen LFG channels, Help and our SG coalition.
It looks like Night Ward is Coop, so perhaps some more people will gather there as well.
I hate hate hate the redside story arcs, they are in general positivly punishing for a solo player who isnt a brute, scrapper or stalker. -
Ive been asking about how to level a redside character because its so hard to find teams and have gotten this sort of advice from help.
Get powerleveled to 35 and start chaining itf.
Get powerleveled to 20 then go rogue and run hero tf.
Solo to 20 then go rogue and run hero tf's and missions.
Delete the character now and go blue.
Get powerleveled to 50.
Get on during primetime and pray for a team.
Start as blue and side switch after 35
OKie now this is clearly a problem and somewhat a dev problem and somewhat a self fufilling player problem.
The core problems.
Redside has about 1/4 of the players blueside does on most servers.
The shortage of players has created the perception the only way to level redside is powerleveling leaving less people to team.
Redsides go rogue and go teaming on blueside leaving less people to team.
No one uses first ward at all.
No one uses praetoria at all.
This leaves the only coop zones RWZ, Crim and DA.
Blueside content in general is much easier, faster and more effecient.
we need either cross server or cross side teaming in a major way, powerleveling is effecient but not very fun, and ive had to resort to it more and more on redside characters
I know ive brought this up before, but the problem is getting worse and no real solutions have appeared. -
Quote:I think the point is that once a toon runs a trial they arent going to want to run that trial again till the next day.Originally Posted by Arcanaville
I know SnowGlobe can be a bit pedantic, but I've never seen one of his trials last more than fourteen, fifteen hours max including instructions.
So this actually creates two problems.
THe player is out of trial use for the next 30-60 minutes depending on trial.
The toon is not out of use till the next day.
There NEEDS to be some revamp of the trial system, because right now.. its not working well.
I Blew a conniption a few weeks ago because I had a new 50 trying to start a baf, and the DD trial forming at the same time kept stealing all the players from my trial that was starting. Especially all the experianced ones.
Running the game the way you want to stops at the point where you interfere with other peoples enjoyment.
Trials NEED to go cross server. -
Quote:Look back in the posts, STJ got alot of flack for being a poor performer when it came out. Basically it doesnt compare well with SS, Fire melee or mace. Im sure Stj can pull off some strange things like soloing an av with only such and such.. butOriginally Posted by Mad Grim
No no no, I did NOT say it had better damage than Nin, I did not say that at all. I said it was overall slightly stronger due to being much more survivable. And when I say much, I mean MUCH. 25% res to s/l/c, 10% def to all positions, and a level 18 power that can increase their def 15% and regen 400%. As well, all but two (the normal howlers) get a self heal. The Lions get a good def buff.
So yes, offensively they need work, defensively they are perfectly fine.
And whoever said "it makes StJ look good" made me discount everything they said previously even more. Street Justice is an awesome set.
So it has the least damage but is one of the more survivable.
Single target sets tend not to be well received in a game thats primary focus is killing thousands of mobs per level.
Even if they boosted beasts single target damage.. there is still that problem.
Basically soloing AV's is a very very very small percentage of the population, fast leveling and to some extant farming is a much more popular pass time.
Aoe makes leveling easier in a team or solo... poor aoe is NEVER going to be liked by the playerbase in general. -
Does any else thinking Necro up to snuff...
IS A HORRIBLE PUN! -
Quote:Its offense is pathetic...Its less single target dps and way less aoe dps than the top sets, and its survivability is questionable, not bad just questionable.Originally Posted by Mad Grim
Beast Mastery is not that bad, in its current state I would put it just above Nin and Merc, due purely to how survivable it is. The ONLY problems are slightly less DPS and very few AoEs. Defensively they are perfectly fine, offensive is the issue.
As for the others, no, no nerf there. As stated, there are existing sets that are just as good or better than /Time.
So what does it actually offer, less dps, less aoe dps, and less sturdiness than sets like bots/demon/thug...
So yeah not much...
This one is making Stj look good. -
Quote:It would be a huge financial backlash against future for pay sets to do it.Originally Posted by Reppu
Of course. The only alternative is to buff everything to TW's level. Especially Blast Sets, which ALL suck. Even Fire Blast is equal to the most average Melee Sets in total DPA rotations (Katana).
The 'bad' support sets could use some tweaking, too.
But we also got a stinker set (Beast Mastery), so it works out.
Its not worth the risk so unless its game breaking its not going to happen.
TW is only about as good as SS and Time is only about as good as Kin but since those two sets are fine, I dont see them taking the rest.
Beast mastery will remain sucktastic till such time as everyone who is actually foolish enough to buy it has.
Then they will buff it so people who actually like want to play instead of just looking at the pretty animals will buy it. -
Quote:Its EXTREMELY difficult to nerf a for pay set, it sets up a expectation that any set thats good thats for pay will be nerfed later on in a Bait and switch.Originally Posted by Reppu
Time is a power-creep set that needs the nerf bat, much like Titan Weapons. At the very LEAST Farsight needs to not work with it and give such ludicrous Defensive levels. It makes Force Fields lose even more appeal.
I almost feel to nerf a for-pay set would require offering refunds, otherwise they will loose trust with the players and SEVERLY reduce purchases of for-pay sets.
Time and TW are not changing. -
Are there any plans now to improve beast mastery cause honestly the set..
Stinks like rotten foot cheese..
those fixes dont seem like they are going to do alot to change the fact that thugs/Demon outdo it in both single and aoe damage. -
Ixp is very fast anyway.
Components and threads are the hold ups, wouldnt worry about it. -
Quote:That was assuming you got the correct component drop level at every opportunity and that you were farming at a high level also to supplement thread if I remember correctly.Originally Posted by Trilby
Given how you can do DA while in the LFG que now for trials, I would say it is pretty reasonable. On the beta forums, there is a guy who worked it out at being about 1 level shift a week. For solo, no trial progression, that is pretty reasonable.
Now I haven't seen a single BAF or LAM form on virtue, since Issue 22 went live. I've seen DD, and MoDD. Because they are new, shiny and easy. I see the new farming rota going Lam, DD, Baf, Keyes, MoM, TPN, UG. So, play DA, get your level shifts. Do DD.
I also remember another post saying it would take over 1000 hours to t4 everything from DA.
So who's to be believed.
As I said, Im fed up im going to free till either the players or the devs figure this out, but I can tell you one thing.
From having played other mmo's if players cut off the supply of new players entering a system, devs will step in to take action.
Da is very disapointing as far as rewards and progress go, the missions are awesome though a bit too tough for new incarnate squishies, and very few people will team for them, anyone who wants to team goes on trials.
Da needs about double the reward level it currently has, and there needs to be some encouragement to take newer players along on trials.
And some leaders will take nonshifts on DD or Mom, but taking players off a team then telling that team they cant come along is just so horrible, I cant even find words for it.
as I said Ill just go free till this sorts out. -
Quote:It was forming another trial on top of ours and running off with players from the trial I had already started that irked the crud out of me.Originally Posted by Stone Daemon
I had a similar experience on...Wednesday night, I think. Someone took it super personally when they were told that they'd be more/less useless on the DD trial. I likened it to them wanting to bring along a character without an alpha slot on a Tin Mage or Apex.
There are other trials non level shifted heroes can take part in. There's no need for you to rush to play the newest thing on a character that can't contribute 100%. If those trials aren't being played at the moment (and they are, on my server), give it a couple days. i22 was released a couple days ago, you can survive until the newness wears off. Or, try leading one yourself, if you must play it nao. If you're the league former, you can't exactly be denied.
Not that he didnt want us.
Just taking the shifted out of a low level trial then running off leaving those players short people is just not good.
well im going Freem until this sorts out. -
Quote:Wasnt just a seperate problem that showed up last night, needed to rant.Originally Posted by UberGuy
I don't disagree, but how is this an indicator of doom and gloom for certain ATs?
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Quote:Originally Posted by UberGuy
You are imagining things. You're imagining totally out-of-touch explanations for what people might have been saying.
+2/+3 is totally reasonable for the DD trial. All the AVs are 54+3.
"Support only" simply means they had enough damage and meatshields already. It doesn't mean they didn't want them at all.
You really need to get over this.
You missed the part where I was talking about grabbing people from the Baf/Lam forming for the DD trials.
Had about 14 people set for a baf, getting close to going, and someone starts forming a DD on top of the BAF thats already forming and we start loosing players.
IM sorry but forming a trial on top of another one already forming and then telling the people who are +1 sorry out of luck, sorry we took most of your team, oh well too bad.
That is JUST WRONG.
I have no problem with asking for +2 or +3, but taking all the +2's and gutting another persons trial, then telling them they cant come on yours is about as bad and antisocial as it gets. -
Quote:Lets analyze.... shall weOriginally Posted by DreadShinobi
DD is brand new. People want to do the new content. This is the same for any issue. Give it a week or two and things will even out.
Do Dark Astoria when there is downtime between trials, it doesn't have to be the only way you progress. I also mentioned quite a bit more than just DA/Apex/TM. Stop being stubborn and look outside the box.
Baf/lam/keyes were failing to start due to payer stealing
Apex/Da/Tin/SSA's not realistic
Mon/DD not allowed into because of level shifts.
Huh this sounds exactly like the situation the devs said they wanted to avoid when they were going to take away Emp's from Baf's
They actually did a good reversal of it though by giving 2 emps to harder trials, now easier trials get ignored for easy/high reward high level trial and it leaves non level shifts stuck.
This is going to be fun if people start going preem because they give up on the incarnate system because of lack of advancement. -
Quote:I did not actually want to get on the DD or the mom, I wanted to get some Baf's started but they kept failing to start.Originally Posted by DreadShinobi
The enemies in DD are all lvl 56 and the bosses are lvl 57. If you aren't +2 or +3 you are not going to be doing anything significant to anything in that trial, no matter what you are, no matter how good you are. This isn't players excluding other players, it's just the way the trials are set up.
It is also a brand new trial, and while it is already obnoxiously easy, it's nice to have a stronger group until the trial gets to "farm status".
There are plenty of options for progressing your unshifted toons to +3 without leeching on the trial with highest level enemies. Including but not limited to - lvl 50 TFs, Apex, TM, Lam, BAF, Keyes, TPN, Dark Astoria, and to a lesser extent MoM/UGT (which are better for level shifted toons also)
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ITs very hard to start a baf, when every time you do, the bigger teams steal all your players
I saw a baf and a lam both fail to start because of Dueling Trials.
Da/Apex/Tin are not realistic for level shifting.
Someone worked out it would take something like 6 months to t3 all your slots, running every day. -
Was really Bad on virtue tonight.
+2 or +3 only, support only, Send tell with AT, Grabbing players from lower level trials to fill out DD, leaving unshifted out of luck.
And you say IM imagining things. -
Having overpowered legacy items is worse than a bait and switch manuver.
The only realistic solution is a correction of the item and an automated refund of points to everyone who bought it -
THey cant very well let some people sit with a bunch of enhancements that are better than anything else anyone can get.
Thats just asking for trouble
Oh if you bought a bunch in these 3 days, you are elite and everyone else is scrub and can never reach you.
That has NEVER went over well in any game. -
Quote:Originally Posted by Comicsluvr
Rather than presume the worst look at other possibilities.
1) Someone announces a Trial and they are suddenly inundated with tels from everyone. The team is 3/4 built and they suddenly realize that most of the league is damage. Team leader feels he needs more support so that's what he asks for.
2) The organizer is trying something new like an all-support Trial and only wants support characters.
3) The organizer just finished a run with two Stalkers who acted like jerks for some reason so he's going to be down on Stalkers for a little while.
Don't just assume that a 6-word message on a game means anything significant. "MoM run, support only and +2 level shift" might be shorthand for "We have 3 Tanks, 2 Scrappers, 2 Stalkers, 2 Brutes and 3 Blasters. However we only have 1 Defender and 1 Controller so far and would REALLY like to have more! Oh, and without the +2 level shift you'll never hit anything."
It could be something like that
But I saw it more than once.
I've said I have no problem with asking for level shift, that makes sense thats under a players control. A player can actually pretty easily change his level shift.
A player cant change his AT choice. -
You can change the shift situation at any time.
You cant change your AT or powerset choice after creation.
Its allright to exclude for shift, its not allright for AT or powerset. -
Quote:I have no trouble with the level shift requirement.Originally Posted by DreadShinobi
You realize those trials have level shifted enemies on them, right?
UG has 54+1, MoM and TPN have 54+2, DD has 54+3.
You can't do anything significant to a +7 foe no matter what you are.
I do have a problem with requiring support only or something like no stalkers. -
Ive just seen it start to pop up again
UG and TPN usually want +1, Mom and DD +2 or +3
And I have seen alot of Mom looking for more support only.
But what really worries me is if they change something of the currency for the next level of incarnate requiring harder trials, which could leave alot of builds out of the game. -
Quote:Yes yes, an organized team on Vent can do just about anything.Originally Posted by Mad Grim
Masterminds take your 'hi' and raise you a 'badass'
http://boards.cityofheroes.com/showthread.php?t=285278
Masterminds in general on a pickup TPN are bad news. And its not even the camera's, its the narrow halls, its a real mess.
And this is about more than just MM's.