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i demand to know when issue 13 is being released its been in open beta since the 5th! how many more bugs can there be! surly it will be live before december! please just give us a date or even a week!

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Lol i take it you havent been around for updates going live for long or you would be laughing at "how many more bugs can there be"

The more testing an update gets the better, still i would guess at it going live towards the end of the month and before the winter event starts so........soon

Lord not this again

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I've asked for clarification on the quote, so for the time being let's stop arguing with each other about what it may or may not mean depending on varying interpretations of context. It's all merely opinion for now; and, I must say, both sides have valid opinions based on currently available information.

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Clarification received:

Positron's quote should not be taken to mean that Architect will be the only thing in Issue 14. Issue 14 will include other material as well. What was meant here is that Architect is seen as a strong enough feature to be the headliner of the issue. This mimics previous issues, where (for example) Issue 11 was named after Ouroborus and Issue 9 after Inventions.

The team just aren't ready to discuss anything in Issue 14 beyond the already known Mission Architect feature at the current time.

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Excellent, thanks for that, i'l stop moaning now

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No stamina,

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I dont hate this game i love it and just dont want to have to find another game to play after four years of time spent here, but with the lead dev saying things like "no other content for issue 14" my hope fades

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Posi certainly didn't say that, and there's no clear agreement on what he did say.

Which does make his statement a poorly thought out one, but doesn't make it the harbinger of Doooooooom!!! you seem to have decided to take it as.

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While thats true i do hold out little hope with the devs at the moment, i guess i need them to prove me wrong and bring back the glory to this old lady that we call CoX

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I know they cant do an update on the scale of the new wow one but they could maybe follow there lead an give us a paid for update.

Anyone who likes the game would buy it and for those who would say "its not right to charge" well move with the times after all you get what you pay for in this world.

Even if paid for updates were going to far there is nothing wrong with bring some "wow" back to the game you never know if a big time update was on the cards the game could start being talked about in the pc mags again other than what is now, pc gamer few months back called this game "old" and not up to the challange of the new comic based mmos that are coming out.

I dont hate this game i love it and just dont want to have to find another game to play after four years of time spent here, but with the lead dev saying things like "no other content for issue 14" my hope fades

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... anyway what i said was this

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but i cant hide from the fact when they do an update they do it big time, so thats what im saying cox should be looking at,

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IE, take notes from there book, hope that is clear for you now

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Union or defiant?

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WoW has it wrong - everything about it is wrong, wrong wrong
CoH has it's own style, which is a big part of the appeal - trying to copy WoW or any other game would dilute the things that makes CoH special.

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The only thing special cox has left is lake of content, seeing as how they have removed the speed of the pvp now,

Im not saying i like wow infact i have a wow account that i pop onto evey few months but i still find it a grind, but i cant hide from the fact when they do an update they do it big time, so thats what im saying cox should be looking at, stop giving us half baked so called content and move on to bigger and better things.

If cox had the kind of update on the scale of wow it would make my year as i like this game and just wish they would give us some new wow facter just like it did the first time i enterd atlas park and looked up at the huge statue and thought wow

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You DO know that WoW has a much, MUCH bigger dev team than any other MMO out there don't you?

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Yes i do and do you want to know why?.... Well i will tell you they have a bigger player base and why is that because they know how to keep there players happy.

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No put subs up so we can get some good updates

Put in content other than mission builder.

Lvl 50 only content

FIX BUGS

That is all

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WoW has it wrong - everything about it is wrong, wrong wrong
CoH has it's own style, which is a big part of the appeal - trying to copy WoW or any other game would dilute the things that makes CoH special.

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The only thing special cox has left is lake of content, seeing as how they have removed the speed of the pvp now,

Im not saying i like wow infact i have a wow account that i pop onto evey few months but i still find it a grind, but i cant hide from the fact when they do an update they do it big time, so thats what im saying cox should be looking at, stop giving us half baked so called content and move on to bigger and better things.

If cox had the kind of update on the scale of wow it would make my year as i like this game and just wish they would give us some new wow facter just like it did the first time i enterd atlas park and looked up at the huge statue and thought wow

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P.S Traitors!!

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11 million people cant be wrong can they?

Cox could learn a few tricks from wow if you ask me, i mean wow launch a new paid for update thats just so huge that people will wait in the street at 1 in the morning for it to come out.

Cox yet to launch i13 and the players argue about the small content and huge changes to a core aspect of the game that they dont even like.

Who has it wrong?

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To be frank, I've had to put up with Issues which contained, for example, PvP and the Arenas, which were of no use to me what so ever. If it turns out that the MA is of no interest to 80% of players (which I doubt), it will still have been interesting to more people than some of the Issues were.

Sense of perspective, please. (Kidding myself... Interwebz.)

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You aint had to put up with an issue that contained one thing only that had no interest to you what so ever.

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Doesn't make the game worse tho does it? Just means you don't get a new shiny to play with while everyone else does

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Depends on the "everyone" some players dont post on these forums you know and those are the players who make up the biggest section of sub paying people and let me tell you if they did the base of who could care two monkeys about mission builder and those who do would change in such large numbers your head would spin, as i can say for a fact everyone i talk to in game and that is a load of people hate the idea

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Interesting interview and I bet we'll see more than Mission Architect in I14, but even if that's the bulk of the issue, where's the problem? It should lead to almost limitless content in about 20.34 seconds.

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The problem is not everyone wants to take part in mission building, i still fail to see how this is new content all you will be doing is making missions useing already avalible maps and enemy groups but adding your own pointless twist to the story.

New content to me means new not reworked, not everyone wants to pay subs for a game to spend time making maps that are already avalible by doing paper missions, issue 14 should include something for all like all past updates have

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Pedant mode:

It's not the lowest figure ever montly access wise but it is for highest concurrent users.

Dec-2004 15,741 124,435 11
Sep-2008 13,443 124,939 15

504 in difference...so we're not quite there just yet.

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Was the game released in the EU in Dec 2004? I thought it was April 2005 when the EU started.

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Thought it was feb 2005 im sure thats when i started my account

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Matt Miller: Mission Architect is a strong enough feature that it can, and should, stand on it’s own for an issue. We are very excited to see what the players come up with!

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Well thats a great attitude to have, for some like myself issue 14 was already a bust but now knowing that this is all its going to include makes me laugh.

Do the devs of this game not know that there is a huge market out there full of MMOs and by not keeping up with new content they run the risk of loosing alot of there players.

I was not looking forward to issue 14 as i knew the content would be again slim for me but now knowing that thats all we will get i just cant understand whats going through the heads of the devs at the moment.

If the devs want to turn cox into a RP game then please just say so as it looks like they way its going, i would rather know now and not wait to see what rubbish we get issue 15 before i decide to carry on paying for a game im not playing any more

Well all you can do for 50s at the moment is pvp, or you could spend hours getting badges.

This game does not have end game content as we have been told many many times now that not everyone has a lvl 50 so it wouldnt be right to make content for a small section of the game (yeh right)

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you mean like this?

(no, seriously, I actually typed with my nose there)

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You have many talents

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For the love of god post something worth it or just dont bother GG we want the devs to read these posts and take are views in to account not see pages of pointless threads that they will pass over

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One of the problems with new people joining PVP is that they see people like yourself on here sayhing that PVP is broken with the changes, which it actually isnt, its just that you dont like it.

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Thats your point of view that its not broken its not mine and many others anyone wanting to join the pvp commuinty needs to have a point of view from both sides dont you think?

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Its strange how PVPers moan that not enough people PVP. Yet we have 2 in this thread showing exactly the attitude of elitism that actively discourages people to try PVP.

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Maybe what we want is someone to prove us wrong and that we are not as good as we think we are but all we get is people moaning about how unfair pvp is.

And what do the devs do take a system that yes had problems and turn it into a master work of rubbish.

Change is good but change like this we can do without.

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I wrote this post because I feel that a lot of so-called PVP players are moaning either without trying it or their FOTM builds dont win like they did. ED all over again.

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Then you would be wrong pvpers have been testing this build on the test server since it went out.

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Oh and by the way, why on earth would new people join PVP? I post saying positive things about the changes and the vampiric PVP community jumps in and sucks the positivity out, God help any new person who likes PVP.


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What is wrong with some people pvpers WANT more players in the zones but what most of the people posting on these forums are saying is that the changes will fail to get any new players into pvp, even the non pvp community seem to think that the changes have broken the system.

Now you can have your point of view of course, you like it and thats good but please dont think that the rest of the pvp community are out there moaning with out testing as you are way of the mark

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I think the devs would rather have 200 people who occassionally PvP than 30 people who do it more often than not and 170 people who won't touch it with a barge pole.

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You could say that about any of the groups of players who play out side the pve game but at the end of the day all there subs add up and if the devs want to build on pvp as they said they need the current pvp base