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Well seeing as so far the pvp community seems to think this wont help i guess your wrong, there is nothing there to make say the rp lot want to come into a pvp zone they still gain nothing for doing so

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I wasn't thinking of the RPers, more of people new to the game who think PvP might be something fun to try out, but then find they die in 2 seconds.

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And this has been an ongoing argument, and i still say those who do go into a pvp zone will take in one of two ways.

1. Hate it and moan that they died to fast and never come back.

2.Love it and spend the time an effort into making there toons the best they can in order to do better at it, and imo these are the players we want to come back not the cry babys.

Well seeing as so far the pvp community seems to think this wont help i guess your wrong, there is nothing there to make say the rp lot want to come into a pvp zone they still gain nothing for doing so

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Surely a big part of increasing participation in pvp is to keep the current pvpers and what makes the current pvp game fun . .

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But what makes the current game fun might also be what's putting off some potential new PvPers

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Well then they need to get better at pvp

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But making it easier for new PvPers to survive might be a better form of encouragement

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No it will just mean they will take a few seconds longer to die

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Which will encourage them

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For god sake GG cant you go and spam your waste of time one liners in another thread for 30 mins pls

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I read about a poll a while back, which showed that most people who don't do PvP don't do it because they can use the time for something else which actually nets them a reward.

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Very true and this makes me wonder why these changes will get them into a pvp zone, if anything all i can see this doing is make the few who do pvp think twice about it.

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Surely a big part of increasing participation in pvp is to keep the current pvpers and what makes the current pvp game fun . .

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But what makes the current game fun might also be what's putting off some potential new PvPers

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Well then they need to get better at pvp

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But making it easier for new PvPers to survive might be a better form of encouragement

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No it will just mean they will take a few seconds longer to die, also this

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Ability to PvP and these changes don't have much relation. Poor PvPers will still be poor PvPers with these changes,

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Surely a big part of increasing participation in pvp is to keep the current pvpers and what makes the current pvp game fun . .

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But what makes the current game fun might also be what's putting off some potential new PvPers

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Well then they need to get better at pvp

Well i almost fell of my chair laughing i mean this is a joke right?

How does castle think this will get more into pvp and also were is the balance?

Well it would seem to me that globey could be right here i dont think castle plays the game if he did then he would be laughing as well.

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why ncsoft purchased city of heroes/villians from cryptic if they did know that cryptic is developing a new super hero mmorpg?i dont want to be rude but we all know when Champions Online[the new super hero mmorpg by cryptic]will releash so its the dead of COX ,then nc soft will close the servers of cox if the game was still by cryptic i guess they will make Champions online accounts to play COX on free ,but ncsoft purchased the game ,and we are all doomed ,ohh by the way i understand that DC Universe Online will releash before Champions Online ,that bummer that SOE will kill COX and not Cryptic ,the company that create COX .

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Ah welcome to monday, another fine week ahead

Nice one Gratz

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With PvP being under major changes, anything that might be good today may be the suck0rz when I13 lands.

I'd wait for Castle to release his PR piece on PvP changes first.

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^This

Wait and see what the nerf bat brings along on its next swing

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Nerf bat seems broken in that case, considering Controllers & meleers are getting damage buffs.

Still, Castle is a brave, brave man fiddling with PvP in this late stage of the games life.

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But blasters are getting a beating if you were to go with the numbers so far, still its hard to say what we will end up with, just sit and wait for castle to finish

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With PvP being under major changes, anything that might be good today may be the suck0rz when I13 lands.

I'd wait for Castle to release his PR piece on PvP changes first.

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^This

Wait and see what the nerf bat brings along on its next swing

Ta all

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Darn it, Stasis decides to leave and you come back... could the forums get any worse?

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MaX has said he's coming back at some point in the future

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I've not seen him around for a bit - was he called back to his home planet?

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We can but hope

Best not ask to many question or they could start to charge

The price of fame eh guys

Also went for leadership and cold and it kicks butt ta for info.

Can i have your stuffs pls

Cya around.

Thanks guys didnt think about leadership pool tbh went for concealment, will go back to mids and have another bash at it.

What the best epic set to go for on a psy/eng blaster so far gone for cold but thought i would ask you lot,

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K I've been waiting ages for my 'why' questions to be answered...mostly because I haven't asked them yet. That is what am I going to do now.

As a player, you simply wonder 'why'. Of course, wondering isn't going to help any, is it? You've really got to know why the devs do these things. Maybe my fellow forumites can understand why these things happen?

1. Why do we have to get 700 mil or whatever to get a 'good' build? I feel this system is downright pants, why should I need to farm every spare time I get to get decent builds. I have nothing against farmers and I do occasinally farm. But I just feel the farmers who like to farm a lot have a edge over people who dont farm, espicially in PvP. Why?

2. Why do the people who explore usually don't get anything for it. I'm a avid explorer of the areas in the game, but really, there's not that many exploration badges to attract explorers. The only one I can really think of is Egg Hunter. The rest are really well put at random locations. The explorers should be rewarded for exploring, but it seems like a bit of a far away dream.
Why?

I think that's all I can think of for now, I'll think of more 'why' questions a little later. For now, respond with an answer or no answer. Because every post counts, they say.

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Well you dont need 700 mill for a good pve build so going on what you have posted id guess you pve so why would you need a 700 mill pve build?

Also for for pvp 700 mill is not that much about 1.5 billion should get you what you want.

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But I just feel the farmers who like to farm a lot have a edge over people who dont farm, espicially in PvP. Why?


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Also this, why moan about what others have, they have spent the time grinding for the inf they spend on there toons, if you want the same then put the time in and it shall be yours.

The green eyed monster is a nasty thing.

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i know the game needs time to log out for security reasons, but it surely doesn't even need 5 seconds, so 30 seconds is a bit to high.
i do think that, to keep it secure, a 10 second time should not hurt.
it's very annoying to make a character, find out that you don't like the powers you choose from the beginning, and then have to wait longer then needed only to remove and remake the character.

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Worst moan ever!!

lol 30 secs to long just click exit now

Well not sure if i fall into the "enemies " camp but i know we have clashed in the past

But its a shame to see yet another long time player go so many seem to be off or going to the usa at the mo.

Anyway cya around.

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The thing is though guys from what i've read all melee attacks are getting a huge damage buff coupled with a -75% range component added to taunt....


It seems melee is getting buffed AND blasters getting nerfed.... Like Falcon said. How is this any better than what we have now?

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Its not any better all this will do is switch things around from side to the other, were is the balance in that devs?

While its nice to see some change id have to say looking at this trollers, doms doing more damage than a blaster is abit much.

While i do think blasters were OP for pvp whats being done here goes against what a blaster is about that being damage.
Hope this is not a final draft or things could be looking abit poor for the outlook of pvp for a few AT.

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At least my record isn't whining.

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You sure about that i mean i bet you like a good gramaphone record as you like the "past" so much.

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Theres nothing wrong with shields as a power, except all these things I say are wrong with them, and that everyone wanted them but I didn't. Otherwise they're fine. Apart from that stuff. Gotcha.

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I have not said i dont like shields infact i picked them in the poll so id like to introduce you to "wrong end of the stick" as normal.

To sum up bite me

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Theres also several thousand super heroes who dont have shields, did you forget them?

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No, unlike you forgetting the ridiculously famous one who does. The one so famous that even in a genre renowned for its resurrections still made actual headline news when he was killed.

Why don't you complain about Claws next, that's restricted to even fewer comic characters than shields, and was placed in entirely so people could pretend to be Wolverine. Oh and then Dark Melee, does that even exist outside Paragon City? And Spines. Actually, no point, it barely even exists in Paragon City as well.

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Look your sounding like a stuck record here, we all know about capt america and that he has a shield but thats not hte point, the point is we do seem to be getting alot of "old hat" add ons picked from the human past even capt americas shield was made from some sci-fi metal so his does not even come close to whats being offerd to us here.

Whats wrong with picking ideas from now or even the human future that imo would fit better with a super heroe mmo.

There is nothign wrong with shields as a power but just keep in mind that not everyone will want to make a concept or "RP" toon or prance around in atlas in a fashion show like some others want some may want to play the game and have powers etc that look cool and do some damage

Big up the BAB,