Serio

With i7 approaching, with it comes villains reaching 50. Im yet to try any villains pentad, and i think before any future tourneys are held, it would be nice to get some numbers, to see the interest in villains teams.

So first off who would be interested?

We would be playing on test to maximise potential battles.

Once the potential numbers are in, I will arrange some matches.

C'mon villains, it's time to show the heroes who runs this planet!

WooT!

Phone line seems to be up and running again!

ummm, peeps seem to be forgetting kinetics.

Kinetics is single-handedly, one of the best pvp powersets, period. Ice/kin is never a bad choice.

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right i need to respec into something better, too many useless powers imo

what do you guys recon for my kin/elec defender
power mastery(powerbuild up+TF) or psychic(hold, aoe sleep, telekinesis)

and i still have 2 powerslots open
zapp seems silly as i hardly attack(and shouldnt even :P)
aim perhaps?
teleport is obtainable from temp powers
though fly or ss might be handy (already have sj+acro but get immobilized sometimes with no travel power to take me away, so hasten+ss might be handy there)

or should i take up stamina after all, cant recall that i ever ran out of end during the match, cept when i was drained by some nasty kin :P

thanks for the thoughts
-alex hunt-

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i'm no kin pvp expert but as a defender the combo of fly, invis and ss is a very good combo for getting away from scrappers and blappers, with very few ppl having fly u can dominate the sky making it a lot easier to buff ur team, altho with fly stamina is probably gonna be a must. im thinking of ditching ss for leaping but dont no how id cope without hasten. i would suggest with the majority of ur powers being target based aim would be a must. if end is a problem only some of the time u cud pick up conserve power and power build up (imagine how slow the target wud be with power build up and siphon speed )

as i said tho im no expert on pvp kin

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tk is always nice for any defender to have, except when your facing them!

peeps know about my connection issues atm. BT are claiming its a fault with my equipment, but as i have three kids, i would tend to disagree with them.

In all seriousness though, they cant send an engineer till sat morning, so i may be doubtful for tonight. And i was so looking forward to pwning team 2.

freeze ray ftw.

bitter freeze ray will be the first thing i ditch in a respec. Slow animation, poor damage. Take ice storm instead. As for pvp, i disagree. A 3 second animation for such a poor result, would just make you easy pickings.

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I wasn't laying down the law....I was just saying that if done properly, this could very well be a hard team to beat.

And Sgt_Furnace. Just tested it in the arena my lvl 23 def against a lvl 49 blaster. And guess what? You are a liar!

I can perma it WITHOUT hasten in the arena. What other lie will you come up with this time I wonder...

Maybe try not lying and you might be taken more seriously. Many PvP tournaments? Well what about the others with no such rules where you can have as many of 1 AT as you want? I dunno.....do we even have them on this server or against defiant?

Maybe we could just keep that team in reserve for those 'special tounaments'. When is the next one please seeing as you seem to know how often they occur?

But fine....you lot forget I even mentioned it. How dare I suggest that a team of 8 bubblers might be able to keep 7 people perma-phased.

Now explain to everyone why you lied please.

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OK bob, please calm down. Sgt never lied, he only expressed that that was what he understood to be the case. If it is not, we will take your word for it.

Your idea is NOT a bad one. If it could be pulled off on a regular basis, it would indeed be a very good strategy.

However you have posted your opinion in a forum topic. This means you intend for it to be dicussed. At no point have you been flamed, on the contrary, people have given you the reasons they perceive to be the plans flaws. By all means, disagree, counter, or think of ways around the problems presented to you. All the people who have given those reasons have a very very good knowledge of pvp.

Forget Union, there is nobody I know in COx with more pvp knowledge than cherry, who wrote,
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I have a bubbler they can get creamed by blappers, detoggled quite easyily by defenders/controllers (repel for example, repulsion field, lighting cloud all detogglers that cause big problems for bubblers) and once slowed by an AoE slow they are screwed.
Plus with all the bubblers in PFF all it would take is a defense debuff and 3 or more stacked holds, easily co-ordinated by the opposing team, on one target and they held since theyre only getting the protection of one dispersion bubbler.
Any team with only 1 type of 1 AT will be inherently weak you need to mix and match them.

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In a nutshell, it is noones intention to ruin your idea, only to help you see potential flaws in it.

So please, take it easy. Refrian from calling people liars, and all will be well. Try speaking to Tremulous on wednesdays pvp event. Hes a lev 50 bubble defender with a lot of experience, and i'm sure he'll give you a heads up.

pff ftw!!

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We don't need 8 regular playing bubblers.

We just need 8 bubblers! Thats all we need to test it, brains!

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tbh mate, it's a nice idea, but in practise it just wouldn't work. Even with teamspeak the organisation would be just impossible.

Here's why...

For your plan to work it would require perfect timing. That means all eight of your defenders targetting separate members of the opposite team at the same time. Then each target has to be hit with the power within a few seconds of one another. Even with verbal communication this would be an almost impossible feat.

Take a the 8 bubblers vs a group of 8 blasters for example. It doesnt matter what target the blasters hit as long as they pick one. In fact if two blasters mistakenly hit the same target the only thing that will happen is the target will drop faster. Once one defender drops, it's game over. Can you really imagine it?
defender1,"ok ive got cherry fusion targetted"
defender2,"ok ive got knight"the nimmer"stalker targetted"
defender3,"oh i had knight stalker, ok ill take gatling"
defender4,"anyone got a rez?"
defender5,"arrsse wrong target"
defender6,"stop all speaking at once, i cant understand anything!"
defender7(Leader),"ok, all dimension shift"
defender8"This isnt gonna work, im off to get my troller"

Total convo time=20secs
Time to team wipe out=30secs

Overall, if the 8 bubblers were controlled by 8 borg drones, then they would own. As it stands we only have one borg drone in the shape of the rad/rad defender aka cherry fusion.

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have we even got 8 regular pvping level 50 bubblers? no? thats that then.

tbh, i'd be a lot more worried facing 8 rad defenders using TK. All that stacked rad...*shudders*

( I'm now grinning at the thought of knightstalker, Chives, Beowulf, Sgt etc.. TK'ed in the office with eight lots of rad debuffs...regen scrappers ftw my arrsse )

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...but just for reference....team 2 wud pwn team 1

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your mamma knows a winner when she sees one..



thats why shes cheerleading for team 1.

No disrespect to any peeps i know, but ive got to say I reckon invul tanks are now the tank of choice followed closely by ice tanks.

Fire tanks, forget it these days. Only two shields, that have been nerfed through ED, mean you are the easiest of tanks to toggle drop. No power in the set gives knockdown resistance meaning you HAVE to take acrobatics. Finally there is no panic button, just a useless self res, which youll be doing a lot against a half decent team.

Stone, excellent tanking, best for pure punishment taking-ness, but too slow without a speed boost. Also not being able to toggle drop granite ( cept with holds ) is nice.

Invul, good overall survivability, plus whats sets them apart for group matches is unyeilding. Ie not thrown back by hurricane/bubbles, and resistant to tk too. Also having a panic button, unlike fire, that cant be toggle dropped, is a must.

Ice, this set has come into its own these days, and ice has an excellent panic button in hibernate. The ability of trollers to severely drop defense with autohit poers like radiation infection makes me wonder how good theyll be in pvp teams.

well may as well get the fightin' talk going i suppose..

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Team 1
Tanker - Max Powerz
Scrapper - Chives
Blaster - Bitter Ice
Blaster - NeoArc
Defender - Stryker
Defender - Freyr
Controller - Purple Hazel
Controller - X44

Team 2
Tanker - Still in need of a stone tanker anyone know anyone?
Scrapper - SGT.
Blaster - Synaesthetix
Blaster - Uncle Al
Defender - Tremulous
Defender - Shaman X
Controller - Zim (Gatling)
Controller - Subconscious



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Team 1 is going to pwn joo! innit.

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ill bring alex hunt for the fun, someone needs to make tankers cry when they see their end drop to 0 eh seri

pb isnt that good but if you want one, shes still lvl 32 :/

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too many things make tankers cry these days mate. Seri's hung up his boots for good!

Sorry guys, can't make tonight

mates birthday, completely forgot..

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I didn't reactivate for nothin'.



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nope, i think it's currently about 8 quid isn't it?

you know im in mate...

I'd prefer to play hazel, but I don't mind grinding Seri in some practise runs.

May I also suggest that for anyone wishing for advice on pvp builds to show up, chat to people, and participate. There will be many experienced pvpers about, and that, coupled with practise, beats the hell out of most forum notes.

And chezza, you will participate, or im gonna ask M to buy up all the ice cream vendors in your area, and put the price up 150%

( ice cream nerf ftw! )

a tanker wwithout taunt is like...erm...a tanker without taunt.

..ie a poor scrapper.

SG/VG Name: Knights Walkers ( heroes ) , Knight Walkers of the Apocalypse ( Villains )
Server: Union
Hero/Villan: both
Raidable: villains - YES, heroes - no
Player Amount: Heroes full, villains - nearly full
Contact:@seriphimus

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Would all depend on the rest of your team and mainly what defender you had.(IMO)

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That's hitting the proverbial nail on the proverbial head.

Also of note, it also depends on what you are facing. When facing different team builds, the potential variety makes it impossible to choose the ideal build.

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Bridger don't suppose u could find out if prestige is going to get reviewed / has been reviewed in terms of the costs.... At the moment I don't think its at a very realistic level. Our SG is pretty active and we earn maybe 70k prestige an evening, 200k at a w/e. At that rate we'll all be old and grey before we get the super-uber mega secure base complete with sharks with frickin laser beams . Now I'm not saying reduce it hugely... I would say plots come down by a factor of 10, as does crafted item placing costs. Regular items maybe by a factor of 5. And/Or change the exchange rate on the inf transfer... working in the Foreign Exchange business I can say that I've never seen such highway robbery... actually that's a lie I see it every day :P but still....

Speaking of base bits.... What's the chance of getting multi-level bases? Also water would be quite fun - some of the ladies in our group apparently want a jacuzzi (spelling anyone?) and who am I to deny them?



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/em agree!

also our sg is up for a raid, just send a tell to @seriphimus, and ill ping one back.

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maybe an idea to make a global "trade/marketplace" channel?

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good idea!

i personally have the following refined tech salvage i wish to swap for the equivalent arcane;

24 Tech Material
26 Tech Power
4 Tech hardware

Plus a bucket load of unrefined tech.

Oh, btw, can i suggest that any groups interested join in a coalition?

Max, i checked last night, but we arent in coalition, ping me or KS to do so if you wish.

Global chat handle
@Seriphimus

Yes. Items are replaced. So no overall damage. HOWEVER, atm its bugged.

Recommendation is:
Have more than 2 anchors but NO MORE than 4 anchors. More than 4, and peeps items are not being replaced correctly, and ultimately people are losing them.

take both!! NOW!

both are essential to the set. Lingering rad is my favourite, purely for its regen scrapper ownage. It is also excellent against AVs as it kills their ability to regen. EF is an excellent power too.

Slotting?

EF - 2 end red
LR - 2 Acc, 3 Rch, 1 slow

I was sooooo gonna start this thread!

KWOTA are ready and able!