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  1. Quote:
    Originally Posted by macskull View Post
    How is beating anything on a Therm in a no-inspiration duel even worth mentioning? Your opponent might as well have been in rest the entire match. No good MM would've agreed to such an arrangement, so I rest my case that this MM must've been bad. I don't believe you ever answered my question as to who that MM was, either. Mind letting me know? I want to laugh at them.

    No sorry, i might if i remembered, but all the thug/pains look the same, they have a bunch of thugs around them, have that aura, and usually some cape or hat.

    Yea who would ever agree to a match they couldn't win? Maybe someone who wants a challenge. I learn the most from a duel when i lose, so sometimes i go against the odds so i can learn more, and there are some times i've even won those matches i thought i'd lose.
  2. Quote:
    Originally Posted by ConFlict View Post
    Winning no inspire tournies with elec therms is hard. Good thing shin is so skilled.




    And you are pretty much the only person who post in this section who feels this way. Along with all the other crap you post I really wonder why you even bother. You are either a bad troll or just an all around failure. Either way its not to good for you.


    I see ele/therms get killed left and right in duels by someone using an ele/therm killer. Seriously, who beats a ton of people using their weakness? She even killed /ele brutes at the time, it was awesome.

    Anyway, if my understanding of a troll is right, just being here to make people angry, that's not what i'm trying to do at all. Now it's simply got to the point where i post some information in a thread and just have to respond to everyone saying something to me.

    Atleast it's like that now, i needed to use my voice first in older threads.
    To fail at something i would need a goal. You obviously didn't think that through, i'm not trying to do anything specific, just speak and learn.
  3. Quote:
    Originally Posted by macskull View Post
    1. Learn who's good and who's not. Hint, you're in group two.

    2. Shin is terrible no matter what he's playing. Always has been, always will be.

    3. No-inspiration duels are boring and predictable because any intelligent observer could tell you before the duel even starts what the outcome will be. Inspirations balance the fight and make it exciting.

    I don't know, i've never considered myself a bad player. I know you have watched a duel or 2 of mine, not sure if u've watched ryu duel. I'm more of a book person and will cave under a little pressure, usually even pause for a second if getting ganked, i'll admit that's usually an aspect of a bad pvper, but that plays no role in a duel and that's where i excel.

    Either way it wouldn't matter, i've seen you fight and i don't respect your opinion on good or bad at all.
  4. Quote:
    Originally Posted by SoulTouch View Post
    I get the funny feeling that Sentry and that new reg'd - i'm on a trial account, I can't spell noob guy, is the same person....

    The incapability to do multiple quotes gave it away.

    haha good observation, but no, it isn't me. If i had the power to create another account, i would silently back up my own opinions while sounding more "sane" to you guys, therefore creating a bridge between us, hopefully making some of you see it my way and vice-versa.

    I enjoy making master plans but calling myself a noob isn't involved in any of them.

    Also hes probably not quoting others to impersonate me. If someone taught me, and it was convenient enough, i wouldn't mind doing it.
  5. Quote:
    Originally Posted by macskull View Post
    "Skill" is evasion, knowing what powers to use when, good inspiration management, but most importantly the ability to perform a role really well in a variety of situations (good Blaster, good Emp, good Tanker, good Stalker, etc.). Ultimately duels are meaningless as long as the rock/paper/scissors mechanic exists and the only measure of performance is the ability to do well in a team situation in a given role. For example, I don't duel often even though I have some characters capable of it, because I'm much more comfortable in a team situation playing a squishy when I know the entire other team will be gunning for me (I usually play an Emp or support-spec'd Therm). In a dueling situation, kill:death ratio is all that matters because there's no other way to win a duel. For example, next time I duel one of your toons (if I ever decide I'm feeling bored and need a laugh) I'll just damage you until you hit a heal, and then say "You had to heal, I win" and then quit the match. However, the system will give you the win since I quit early. Does that mean you won? Heck no - you had to heal, therefore I win!

    (See how stupid faulty logic is?)

    Regarding "cheap tactics," you'll find that the GMs are in support of us, and not you - in short anything goes in PvP short of utilizing geometry exploits. You put toggle debuffs on me and I run into a group of NPCs, which aggro on you and kill you? Too bad, fair game. I have a team and you're solo, and we kill you? Too bad, fair game. I drone you? Too bad, fair game. Ironically, you're the one talking about "cowardice" and "honor" - aren't you the one who uses a flying AR/EM Blaster who uses Boost Range + TP Foe to teleport people into midair and snipe them, and then TP away if you get grounded? But, for you that's okay, because "he wouldn't be able to kill anything the normal way" (your words, not mine) and because "anything goes" (in my words), yet it's ironic that you're perfectly okay with such tactics yet when someone uses phase, it's the end of the ****** world.


    Because something will go wrong and require you to need it (or wish you'd had it). My clicks might be recharging when I take a sudden burst of damage on my Regen, or my health might be dropping and my team's nowhere near me on my SR. I might just be taking too much damage, or get into a situation where I'm at risk of dying. I'll phase because it will stop me from dying, which will buy me time for my teammates to get there or for the situation to change so I have the upper hand. In a duel situation, I've got Phase for the occasions where my heals aren't ready and/or my opponent is outdamaging my regen when IH is running.


    This is a videogame. There's no such thing as "honor" or "cowardice" here. "Respect" for other players is covered by the terms of the EULA. There's no clause in the EULA that says "don't phase if you're about to die" or "don't use inspirations." When I'm playing an FPS like Call of Duty, I don't give a rat's *** that there's someone at the other end of the screen. I'm there to win and short of network manipulation everything's fair game. In an RTS like Halo Wars, the same deal goes - I'll rush my opponent at the start before he can build up his defenses, because if he doesn't prepare for all potential outcomes, he deserves to lose. Or I'll turtle and then overwhelm him with heavy units, and again, he deserves to lose for not taking the initiative beforehand. I don't care who's at the other console - I'm just some pixels on a screen trying to fight other pixels on a screen and not die. Same holds true here.


    The AR/EM is like my ele/therm. Neither take skill and are easy if built right.

    Agent Four (AR/EM) is basically my hero side Possessed Prowler. No matter how many villains there are, i can pick them off one by one. When, say, my friend is on his hero, and i want to play with him, but there are 20 villains and only him on his blaster, i break out Agent four, because anything else would be useless. Agent four does teleport away a lot, and for some reason everyone thinks i have a base buffer TPing me (and i don't, globals can check my team i usually solo). But that's because he's a weak toon and a coward.

    Also, he's my hero side prowler, and i play him almost the exact same way....fly/tp and everything, except he's ranged. One of the people who taught me about pvp when it first came out was AGENT 4, an AR/dev blaster on champion, he was the first on the server to perfect the trip mine, TP foe tactic. I made the toon out of respect for him, since when i came back, he was gone.

    I don't agree with the logic at the top at all, there have been times where i completly beat on someone, quit early because of the long timer and it said they won. If the other person was reasonable they would know that i actually won the fight.

    Does your idea of dueling not include heals now? I have seem some (usually tied) matches like that, WP always dominates unless someone is dark melee or hits unstoppable.

    Either way, if you quit early because i had to heal and said you won, you'd be a noob, and i would too if i did the same thing, and that's one reason, hopefully, neither of us would do that, because we know better. Don't try to seperate us as much as possible, we play the same game, just different opinions and tactics.

    Do you even want the GMs on your side after what castle did? Until they fix pvp i don't care about their opinions on PvP.

    Agent 4 is a squishy, this thread is about phasing scrappers, which i only disapprove of if used in a completly defensive way. If Agent Four was to duel someone (even though he wouldn't, i RP him and he's an Agent like that) and to survive i had to constantly run and/or phase, i wouldn't. At least, once i learned that i had no chance of winning and phase was just making the match longer, i would stop. And when i got to low health i would stay and fight, like a samurai.

    If your enemy is killing you through IH your doing something wrong. I've played a regen long enough to know how to slot it correctly. Your supposed to use DP and IH together, because IH will only make you invincible (in a 1v1) if Dull pain is on the entire time to give the giant regen boost. IH increases ur regen based on the amoutn of health you have, so it's basic to use it with Dull pain.

    I use to use it with MoG when i was low health, so by the time it wore off i would be full and still hve IH on, but without Dull pain on the Entire Time, IH won't be enough.

    Of course they wouldn't ask you not to use inspirations or phase. If they didn't want you using them they wouldn't give them too you. And i can bet there are some things they didn't want you using so they never gave them to you. They give you the "option" of playing with those things...i never read anything like "you need to hit phase if your hp is dropping" or "use inspirations anytime you have them" either.

    Hey my favourite was the Zerg rush back in the day, i always tried making it better. The Zerg rush or whichever rush you have in the newer halo game is an awesome tactic. Because they need to make a rush of their own or build up their defenses, which is a pain because you want more of the miners so you can build up larger later. Really i think the rush is beautiful, even if you don't rush, they need to prepare for one. It makes the game a lot more fun, but i don't think inspirations do.

    It is simply pixies fighting pixies. But once communication comes into play it's much more complex then that.
  6. Quote:
    Originally Posted by YO SON I GOT DORITOS View Post
    hey noub. 1 more thing: ur a noub. oh wait 1 more thing again. its obvious who better player is: me, cus i am champion and u r noub. also noub u dont know vince, unles u mean vincent balmont - and if u mean vincent balmont he is noub i am defeat him very easy he is even use wolf form and i am defeat him cus he is noub and i am champion.

    tl;dr - u r noub and i am champion, also i bet ur a horse diaper IRL cus horses arnt potty trained so they use u 4 the diaper and the horse poops on ur fase get wrek again! double wrek! get wrek + get wreK = double wrek

    tl;dr again hey noub ur a noub fat **** **** ****


    Lastly, if any of my messages were like yours, i'd be as bad as those i call jerks. I don't like playing the name game, i perfer to speak the true instead of making something up, making a joke about someone or simply calling them a noob.

    Although me relating this game to real life is a pattern i seem to be following. Good job there.
  7. Quote:
    Originally Posted by YO SON I GOT DORITOS View Post
    no noub then i wuld be like 100 ears old wow ur dumb. let me tel u a story about 1 time when i was ppv i RV - this noub guy came and used insp and tried 2 kill me but nowai i am champion

    what u think of that? ur head is probbly explode cus ur some guy who thinks 100 year olds play vdieo gamse and u probably wear big hats that u think r cool but they rnt cool so BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOOOOOOOOSH get wrek liek binocular without lense

    Actually when the "born in early 1900's" was thrown at me, i didn't take it literally, as nobody should.
  8. Quote:
    Originally Posted by YO SON I GOT DORITOS View Post
    hey u noub ur noub big fat noub face weak liek jiggly puff no talak k noub? y dont u cahnge ur mentality for ppv and then we can see how big ur cup of water is LOLOLOL get wrek
    I'd act like an idiot to impersonate you as well, but i wouldn't know how to start.

    Well first of all, i like to think i can spell words. IF a particular word comes up that i do not know the spelling for i will, infact, look it up.

    I've never called anyone here a noob, simply because they arn't. They opinion on the game doesn't affect how good they are. Noob is someone who is stupid. Newb is someone who's unknowledgeable. I havn't seen anyone on here that's either, with the possible exception of you.
  9. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Roman_ View Post
    Mac, you're devoting too much of your time to this idiot. It's not worth it because his mentality towards PvP won't change.

    neither will macs, and most likely neither will yours. I don't think there's anything someone could say to change my opinion because i've put a lot of thought into, at the same time i like hearing both sides of the arguement.
  10. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Lucky666 View Post
    yes actually it does actually the avatars they are playing are NOT REAL. And respect, honor, cowardice are all over rated in RL.

    For ***** sake were you born in the early 1900's, honor seriosly?
    Honor exists, no doubt to that.
  11. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Lucky666 View Post
    still don't get it do you, there is NO DEATH IN THIS GAME SO ABSOLUTLY NOTHING TO BE AFRAID OF. Sorry I don't like doing that but it was neccesary. And what moron in their rite mind wouldn't at least pick up the temp phase from warburg. Its not a matter of need it's a matter of ability to do so. Why not take 1 more option if it is indeed an option.

    Although temp phase is easy to get, there is a limit to the # of times you can get it.

    because have the instinct to run when they are going to lose because they have the feeling they are going to die. Virtual or not, it's human nature to want to keep surviving.
  12. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Lucky666 View Post
    Seriously it's a video game and your throwing terms like "cowardice" and "respect" like they mean anything at all. Do you really think some guy/girl playing the avatar your facing cares if you personally respect them, ya right. Once you learn that its a video game and in said video games no such thing as a cowards exist, just winners and losers. Do you get it yet?

    And why is a tactic "cheap" or "stupid" cause you deem it so? LOLZ you make me laugh so hard that anyone could think such things in a video game.


    Just because it's a game doesn't mean the people playing it arn't real. Respect, honor, cowardice exist with people.
  13. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Supermax View Post
    Posts in forums are meant to be read. But essentially what you're doing is calling the vast majority of CoH PvP'ers "weak cowards". Simply because of your own personal agenda. Please realize this.

    We're not getting upset, because your claim is just as absurd as mine about blue powers being bad. We're just trying to let you understand that your own personal agenda is your own personal agenda...it in no way affects us. We use powers the way they're intended to be used...the way they were designed to be used by the designers of the game. Not the way that Sentry4 personally feels they should be used.

    I'm calling whoever is afraid of death and uses phase because of that cowards.

    Whether the majority does it or not does not concern me.

    And i just realized the title, phasing scrappers? Wait what kind of scrapper needs phase anyway? You should be able to get your defenses up high enough that you don't need it.
  14. Quote:
    Originally Posted by _Lith_ View Post
    Cut it with that Zen Shadow stuff, you're creeping me out.

    Also. Offensively use phase? Im sorry but you're retarded, using to escape BU or HE as your suggested still makes it defensive.

    Offensively as though it will help you Win the match, like waiting for BU to wear off etc. Instead of just prolonging the loss or tie.
  15. Quote:
    Originally Posted by macskull View Post
    Holy ****, learn to multi-quote or at least put your thoughts in one coherent post instead of splitting up every paragraph into a new post.


    Also, wtf @ comparing PvP in a videogame to a baby in a stroller. There's no lollipop here, there's no stroller, and there's no baby - there's me and another player and last I checked 0-0 is a better end result than 0-1. As long as that math continues to hold true, I'll be using the powers and inspirations I have available to ensure that's how it stays. If I can't beat him, I'm not just going to lay down and let him have the easy kills - I'm going to do everything in my power to make sure the match ends in a tie because a tie is always better than a loss.
    That's not math it's philosophy because you said "better". Which is what i'm debating.


    See, the problem is that next to anything is invincible when it constantly runs. Even with TS, unless you have more then one person you can heal or get away. That's the reason i don't run and kite with my regen.

    I actually ran into a kiting regen while on juggernaut, it would ridiculous. They tried taunting me saying i couldn't kill them. When they are noob enough to have to kite on a regen to survive. I got the kill later with help, but really i would respect them a lot more if they were not a coward.

    How is ones skill rated? is it kill:death ratio? no or else i could call prowler the one of the best players out there. I hear i was like giggles, but i never saw them, got PL'd by then once, that was awesome...but, skill is basically rated by other players. If someone beats me but did so by some cheap or stupid tactic then really i'm the more respectable player.
    Once you guys learn that kill:death ratio isn't everything maybe you wont play in a cowardice style.
  16. Quote:
    Originally Posted by ConFlict View Post
    He did not. And I would thank you kindly to never speak for me again.


    Imp and Sid are two of the better pvpers from Justice for sure though. There are a few other good ones. The fact that sid and imp are the only 2 names you throw show how little you know about Justice's pvp heritage which is actually quite rich and full. Sadly though a couple really bad pvpers with far to much rp in their blood have helped discredit any good name it actually deserves. And yes, you are one of them.

    Yea you definitely did, i'm not the only one i know to quote you on that. Or atleast someone asked you about some pros, you named them and said you weren't as good as the pros. Which was odd, and that's why i remember, i always assumed you arrogant.

    I forgot to take the history class on CoH justice PvP. All i played was SC with prowler for a year. Then SC died, i started watching tournies and went to RV....got totally destoryed using SO's and an SC build and then made Juggernaut.

    I only remember you throwing out 4-5 quick names, i only reconized 2 who still played.
  17. Sentry4

    New Dom..

    yea i actually got to agree, i havn't looked into it but it seems everyone who is gravity has /ele.
  18. never heard of dc or deth, and i used to watch tournies all the time. Of course i only really remember the winners.

    Actually i am, but i hate dragging people into this. Seeing as you knew right away tells everyone what i said was true, won a bunch of tournies and killed the ele/therm killer builds too. Felicia was one of the best at prime, no doubt.

    Your opinion of good and bad is different then mine.

    You said imp and sid were some of the best on justice, and although that's true when they are together, i see them lose induvidually to those they beat while with eachother.

    Heh sorry for dragging you guys into this too, but Con only named a few i actually knew.

    Basically i don't care if anyone sucks at warzone, it's all about 1v1 duels with no inspirations/temps that matters to me. That's where i see the kind of skill i think matters.
  19. Sentry4

    Stun

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Supermax View Post
    Mez mag means nothing. Only the duration matters. In general, you can expect any mez to be cut at least in half by melee mez protection or acrobatics (in case of squishies).

    A proc mez lasting 4-5 secs on a melee toon sounds about right, if the proc base mez duration is 8 seconds. I thought they fixed those to make the base duration 2 seconds a while ago. But perhaps they're still broken....or at least some are.

    Alright, thanks. a 3-4 second stun would still rock.

    The melee stun proc has been broken for a long time. It goes off way more then 10% of the time and stuns about 4-5 seconds each time.
  20. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Macro_Ninja View Post
    Why would a stalker not take AS its a killer power thats like a petless MM there is no point in it other then to weaken your toons power. Also i would think stalkers spam shark cause they dont have many other range attacks anyway. I have a lvl 50 stalker thats why I wonder this.

    I've actually heard of a petless thug/dark or something killing a bunch of people with super proc'd out attacks. Now that is skill, lol
  21. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Not_Epsilon View Post
    If i rolled a toon on justice specifically to roll his elec/therm, would I be able to get it to 50 relatively quick? or is it just as arduous as on freedom, being as how a majority of PL'ers on freedom disgrace the art that PLing seems to have become.
    If killing my garbage ele/therm would help you sleep at night go ahead. Every build has a weakness. Mine is a ele/ tank. Even with HE i couldn't get him below 75% and he didn't pop geas, it was pretty awesome.
  22. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Not_Epsilon View Post
    Honestly. If sentry is killing people on justice, with an elec/therm/mu, theres three possibilities.

    He only fites HONR FITEKLUB style.

    Fites in arena with insps and DR turned off.

    A Majority of Justice zone players are pathetically bad?(Besides Con and mac fo sho)

    way to suck up to mac and con dude.

    No DR with ele/therm is a joke. The thermal has a bunch of resistence and so has more time to drain your end before you kill them.

    I only kill people with my ele/therm in duels, since hes not built for warzone.

    As for justice players being bad, i wouldn't know. I've never seen better then some of them though. mac and con are not the best. con himself said sid and imp more pro like then him, i think.
  23. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Not_Epsilon View Post
    I don't feel like editing my other post.

    Its actually self-explainitory why he went Mu and other non-sensical choices when put to to comparison with out builds. He's a supa-srs regin fiteklubber with much honr.

    The thread starter wanted a build for "mostly duels and solo zone pvp"

    Mu wouldn't help that much in warzone, i know that much. But in a duel it's the best choice imo.
  24. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Not_Epsilon View Post
    Actually, I have some imput here.

    Mu= Useless. Powersink? lol congratz, you can drain an extra 20 end every minute? Mu Pet? LOL, A pet you can have up for, what 4 minutes? and is down for basically the whole match? Conserve Power? Maybe, but there are better things. Electric shackles? Ok I'll give you that one, I love that power.

    Mace: Gives you a perception power and web nades, I tried this, performed decently.

    Soul: It has power boost, admirable, but not worth it really.

    Leviathan: Has Hibernate and, in my opinion, the second best hold. (Coralax is beast too!)



    The thing being, If you don't take leviathan or mace, you are missing a travel power, fitness, perception or a phase. All of these being central to building an elec/therm.

    -If you can't see the person, and the person happens to be say a blaster? Say good bye to your HP.

    -HE works while phased, and VS still attacks, and an elec/therm is not likely to be able to stand up to a blaster or other high damage AT on its own with HD on. Since Ele/therms are a dueling toon, Hiber>Phase, becuase if heal decay is enabled, you can phase and try to heal to full, but likely fail and come out of phase at full HD, where as hiber replenishes HP due to regen, you come out with no HD and at full HP/End thus explaining leviathans popularity.

    -Mu, quite frankly, by comparison is garbage. The end drain is not NEARLY enough to justify dropping the survivability offered by hibernate.


    --If you think Mu>Leviathan, I can set you up on test to duel my elec/therm, I promise I'll go easy on you?

    First off, the shackles is the only one i dont have, lol

    I don't have to worry about my end with conserve power and power sink.
    Oh and i have tactics and the precep IO in forge. So i can get my HE through MoG or elude. Big mistake if you don't take it.....HE needs to hit or the entire match changes.

    My ele/therm is purposely a joke. i got it to level 50 in 1 day of meow just so if someone got arrogant i could set them back down.

    I have normal invention IOs and only around 4 sets.

    I can tell you i've dueled enough ele/therms to see how well Mu works. Power sink helped a ton on mine. It drains end and gives me end. It's recharge is long, but it works perfectly with the end spike at the beginning and has saved me countless times from running out of end.

    Why would u laugh at the end drain of the Mu? I took a friend of mine who was regen and summoned both pets around him, without using HE his end started to drop, which VS can't do alone. And his health started to drop to a decent amount too with the Mu forged.

    The Mu also distracts people. Countless times people have tried to kill the Mu. i took the heal and with no heal decay i've never seen someone kill it. It also has the fire shields. And they have HE on them for the -dmg.