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Quote:The Perfect World EULA does specify that the laws of California are the ones that apply, which is curious since, as Arcanaville pointed out, US copyright laws make the clauses unenforceable.Originally Posted by Forbin_Project
Pay attention. We weren't talking about NCSoft. We were talking about Perfect World who now owns Cryptic.
Perfect World has headquarters in Beijing China and Redwood City California. Hence my comment about enforcing copyright in China.
But even if we were talking about NCSoft the instead of Perfect World the US copyright laws still can't be enforced outside US borders without the cooperation of the foreign government where the copyright violations are occuring. -
Quote:i thought there were no aggro limits in the early days. You could herd most of a zone with one debuff toggle to the point that the client was only drawing a few of the mobs that were there and kept cycling through them so that different enemies were flickering in and out of view.Originally Posted by Saint Valencrime
I was a beta tester. There used to be no limit of Aggro from snowstorm. One day I put snowstorm on one 5th column NPC in Independance Port. He ran accross the bridge away from me. When he came back he had more than 50 NPCs following him. It was like the Boston Marathon of Evil. I panicked and started running for the exit.
Fortunately I was the only one faceplanted from this. Later on I found on Tornado also had unlimited Aggro.
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Quote:Just so you know (since it was confusing me for the first couple of sentences), i think the term you're looking for is not libel, but liable. i kept wondering why you were claiming that NCsoft was defaming you and how that was a breach of contract. Then it clicked. i can be bizarrely literal sometimes.Originally Posted by Ciera
First, if you read the EULA then you'll find they are libel if they break the contract agreement. It states cases for a user breaking the contract and spells out their responsibility to provide the game environment.
In our case since they have chosen not to support or provide continued service they are in breach of the EULA and are libel. They may provide options, but if you demand monetary credit back to a bank/credit card then they can be found libel for that refund. If they provide credits for other games you can choose that option waiving right to monetary refunds.
At this point in time you can contact your financial institution and stop payment/request reversal of payment, then it's a matter for them to address with NCsoft. This stop payment should not require terminating your account as it would be just like your account dropping back to either VIP or F2P by the NCsoft system.
A class action would be valid in this case since they are in breach of their part of the agreement by suspending support of the game. However CAs are notoriously slow and monetarily you may never see much of your money returned depending on the size of the suit. -
Quote:On a vaguely related note i was reading the Perfect World terms the other day and they actually state that by agreeing to use their services anything you create in their games or post on any of their forums becomes their property. Not that they reserve the rights to use it, it's actually their exclusive property as soon as it's posted in their games or forums. Obviously that might not hold up in court, but unless i drastically misread the agreement that's what it claims.Originally Posted by Arcanaville
What else is there? Basically, my bio and my gameplay actions in the game. My gameplay actions - logs of what I did, my character build, etc - all seem to be entirely reasonable for NCSoft to assert perpetual license to use, and I certainly can't really use them at all. My bio is the only other genuinely creative contribution I've made to the character within the game itself that NCSoft could claim license to, and that's something you would have difficulty arguing that you had to fill in just to "try the game."
Everything else about the character, what I've discussed on the forums, what I've dreamed up, what I've sketched on paper, none of that are things NCSoft can assert ownership of or license to (or rather, they can, but if the law had anything to do with English they wouldn't have the right to do).
If you don't want NCSoft to be able to use it, just don't put it in the actual game. There's no specific reason to do so.
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Quote:Originally Posted by Vanden
Only someone who's been gone for so long could be so out of touch.And there you have it.Quote:Originally Posted by GlassGoblin
"Doctor, what killed him?"
"Puberty."
"Puberty?! Doctor, he was almost ninety years old!"
"It's a slow death...". -
Quote:That's funny. A few years back i discovered the pylons around the Hamidon could also be Wormholed. In my case i first Wormholed them into Hamidon. Where they stuck.Originally Posted by Satanic_Hamster
I'm the person who discovered that the Hamidon in LGTF is wormholeable.
Then again, for a while my hobby was experimenting with figuring out what sorts of objects and critters could be Wormholed. When i wasn't finding new and unexpected locations that mobs could also be Wormholed into. Turns out a number of store interiors are close enough to spawn points to... i'm sure you get the idea. Turns out it's also possible to embed mobs in the AE windows with Wormhole. -
Quote:That's... not how it generally works. In this context or most others.Originally Posted by Obitus
And they won't defend their ownership of your characters, because (among other reasons) you made a good-faith effort to delete them.
*shrug* i don't expect you to believe me since i'm not a lawyer, but i have seen this attempted in similar contexts with actual lawyers involved and it didn't work that way. Still, it's worth trying as long as you have money to spare. Lawyers love money. -
Quote:To me the suddenness and timing of the closure (what with a major update nearly completed, new products in the works or even ready for release, and the way NCsoft appears to have not prepared for the closing in advance) it seems that it was prompted more by corporate politics and infighting than anything else. i wouldn't be surprised if an executive who was a major supporter of NCsoft's Western gaming initiatives happened to be on vacation that week, or some of the recent investors started leaning on the board to prove they were really committed to "refocusing their core business". The whole thing seems poorly planned and executed, almost like it was a spur of the moment decision.Originally Posted by Zwillinger
That looks very much to me like the "standard response" from customer service.
At this point I've not received any details regarding a refund process, what you can get a refund for or how to go about requesting one. As soon as they pass along those details, myself or whomever is left will definitely communicate that.
For now, I can't do anything but advise you to wait until NCsoft has communicated that information.
FWIW, I'm very sorry that they haven't communicated this information and have passed along your frustrations.
Maybe that's just me, but i've known of major corporate decisions that were based on jockeying between the executives and management infighting rather than any calculated business plan in other industries. -
Quote:Lusca with a new texture.Originally Posted by MrsAlphaOne
I mean if we get the governors reprieve from execution...the devs should code "Troy Hickman's Pants" gm. Also renaming another model would be cool too. Dunno what model would work. hmm..
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Quote:i haven't received any direct communications from NCsoft since the closure was announced, so they haven't done any pushing of Guild Wars 2 to me yet.Originally Posted by Kentor1701C
It certainly sounds like pushing GW2 on us is exactly what they are doing.
i'll have to go check, but i'm pretty sure my six month plan was renewed/charged a week or two before the announcement, so i'm wondering what sort of credit i'll be getting.
i probably would have purchased GW2 by now if not for the announcement. Now i'm reluctant to do so. Tried out CO last night and still didn't care much for the look, but i'll give it a chance for a bit. Turned off the cel-shading right off, but still have to sort out the other settings and stuff before i can really judge it as it is now. -
Quote:Well i read the comic before reading anything about it online, and in the first issue she did come across as being a disconnected and nearly emotionless sex doll who could double as an antitank weapon. That was just in the first issue and the writer may have moved the character on to be more than that, but that first issue convinced me not to buy any issues after that. First impressions can be important.Originally Posted by Kasoh
I know what she meant. I read the title. And its something of an internet mischaracterization. The writer and artist could have handled it better I assure you, but vapid sex puppet is not accurate.
In my personal opinion the new version of Starfire was so horrible, especially compared to the previous versions of the character, that i didn't want to see more of the comic. Why would you start a series by seeming to affirm every negative stereotype about females in superhero comics anyway? Especially if you're actually going to write a fleshed out character in later issues. "Hey, we got rid of all the people who find vulgar sexist stereotypes of women in comics offensive. Now we can start to tell the sort of nuanced character story they'd enjoy if they hadn't all gotten disgusted and stopped reading. Go us!" -
Quote:i kind of liked having the issues on hand, but admittedly the boxes do take up a fair bit of space.Originally Posted by Tenzhi
I imagine the diminished publishing and distribution costs figure into the decision.
Personally, I stopped my subscription to Shonen Jump because I was getting annoyed at the growing pile of them. A digital version would be much more convenient for me. I may look into it if/when I get a Kindle Fire.
i'm also one of those people who find reading physical comics and books a different experience than reading them as digital files. i do a lot of both, but there are certain aspects that don't translate well to digital.
Still i may try the digital version some time soon. Then i won't have to worry about the useless dead weight* added by whatever Yugi-Oh story is running in the back.
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Quote:i'm sorry to hear that. i think most of the resentment dates back to comments Jack Emmert made when he was promoting CO, which is a somewhat silly reason to hold a grudge this far along since he's no longer helming the game, and it's been a long time since he actually said less than kind things about his first MMO. That and there were plenty of CO players around launch trash talking CoH both here and in other forums. The thing is that that is also well in the past at this point and every post i've seen from CO players recently has been friendly and supportive. Unfortunately some people hold grudges for a long time, sometimes well past when those who instigated the grudge have left the group they resent. It's just human nature.Originally Posted by Lokikin
Most all of us, devs and community, appreciate your plight. I know you're a tight knit and dedicated community who are seeing their game die, and it honestly breaks my heart. I quickly signed your petition, as many CO forum goers did. Heck, our CM and a dev ran a meet and greet!
Sadly, it seems that, at least by some, CO here is being treated with much less respect by the forum community than CoX is over in our neck of the woods...
I seem to remember a little while ago when I came back to check out CoX F2P and I mentioned in game that I preferred CO. I believe the term another poster used here was "dog pile". Yeah, that. But it was no big deal; quite common if F2P games. I didn't and don't judge your community by that...
I tend to judge the heart of a gaming community by its forum community. And currently I'm a little disappointed...
And for those of you who think I just created this account to troll, I played CoX back for 6 months back in 2004. I've returned off and on. I've accumulated 3 years of subscription perks whatever you call them. CoX just isn't the game for me. And no, I'm not going into some long diatribe as to why. It isn't and that should suffice. CO is, again no diatribe, it should just suffice...
If you don't like CO, fine. I fully understand. It's not your cup of tea. But we're trying to extend a hand here and some of you folks are spitting in it...
That said, i'm going to give CO a try at least. i remember years ago thinking that the look of the character designs was more clunky and plastic toy looking than i enjoyed. As long as the current game's storylines and setting don't have a similar campy, cartoony style i may even enjoy playing it. i have nothing against the occasional silly story.
Edit: Oh, hey! i was just looking for my old CO login and i found my old beta key tucked away in the same note. Wow, it's been a while... -
Quote:Unless i'm mistaken, in CoH it's not automated process and a GM has to do it. Whereas in CO it's automated with no oversight by a human.Originally Posted by TRTerror
That also exists in CoH. Report someone ebough times as spammer and they get chat banned and can't use any type of communication aside for going up to people and use /afk message.
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Quote:The Impervium would probably keep his thigh pouches from chafing, but having to lug a gun bigger than his torso with lots of rectangular barrels would still be a chore.Originally Posted by Liquid
I think it's very amusing that a 90's revival of sorts is going on right now in comics, and Positron was going to go back to an old suit of his from the 90's.
Thanks for sharing this.
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This. Is. Great. Thank you.
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Quote:i had that happen a couple times and would lead the Ghost Ship around the island for a while. The one time I accidentally lead it too close Wentworth's. It was kind of funny to see it get droned. Imagine it popping up in the Zig after getting drone teleported.Originally Posted by Ashcraft
Oh, thought of another one! Does anyone remember when the Ghost Ship would follow you around? That was my favorite pet.
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Ooh, tough call. First i have to decide who to focus on.
Considering reviving and incarnating out my first 50 on Virtue, Navigator FoTa.
Then again there are all my other alts i could play.
And i just created Mender Akemi Homura as an Archery/Time Corruptor because at this point, hey, why not? The entire game world may be on the brink of annihilation or rebirth, so it seems fitting. -
Quote:Mine is still in the box. i saved all of my boxes and the included extras.Originally Posted by Robolotus
Because my Pocket D VIP card is there..
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Quote:i actually sometimes carry around pennies that are cut in half.Originally Posted by Thirty-Seven
My favorite is where a sign advertises a product for ".50 cents," I always want to give them a penny from the penny cup and ask for change... but that wouldn't work.
Neither would this.
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While i've been a bit more more melancholic than usual the only thing i've been over or under doing that i could attribute to the news of the game's closing is getting even less sleep than usual. Which really isn't that good since i'm generally right on the edge of sleep deprivation since i am not by nature a morning person, or even really a day person, and i typically work 9 to 5. My sleep cycle when not on a set schedule is sleeping from around 5 or 6 in the morning to noon or 2.
Really that's about it. i'm not a heavy drinker by nature or inclination, caffeine aside haven't found any other drugs besides alcohol worth the investment, and generally eat a good diet even if i don't get enough aerobic exercise.
However, i do occasionally drive friends to drink. Mostly to clubs or bars where we hang out.
i think it's partially that i have a lot of other stuff going on without much spare time that 'helps' me not get too worked up over the game. i'm too busy dealing with a fsckton of real life deadlines and projects to even play much right now anyway. Hopefully after the art show in October i'll have more time. -
It seems like every time another PS member posts one of these threads i get dust in my eyes again.
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Quote:i thought that bug was around for quite a while. The first time i saw it was when some Championites ran a series of Ouro portals from the city hall roof over to the Atlas statue and created what was called "The Burning Golden Penor of Doom".Originally Posted by BurnSucka
This was great.
One of my favorite bugs/exploits was when people realized, "oh the ouro portal, you can stand on it. That makes it an object, and plaaaaaatform!"
Later that day, in Freedom, a bunch of us were skywalking with a burning platform of ouro portals going up into the sky. You guys fixed that one pretty fast as I recall.
Some time later there was the dropship raid in Steel Canyon, and while we were waiting for a Rikti assault we start building Ouro bridges between a couple of the skyscrapers in the Northern end. One of the best "bugs" ever. -
Quote:i knew about the door and the room under the arena, but i never knew you could PvP in PI. Darnit, to not find out until now.Originally Posted by Anaku
We use to do that trick in PVP Farming so most of the gankers couldnt get to you. Don't really remember which door really and kinda forgot about it until you mentioned that Gob.
Anaku